(11-18-2020 06:35 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  


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They are admitting Trump won Wisconsin.

Milwaukee County and Dane County (Madison) are the only two counties being recounted.

Here are the breakdowns of those 2 counties the last 3 presidential elections.

2020 - Milwaukee - Biden 317K, Trump 134K; Dane - Biden 260, Trump 78
2016 - Milwaukee - Clinton 288, Trump 126; Dane - Clinton 218, Trump 71
2012 - Milwaukee - Obama 332, Romney 155; Dane - Obama 216, Romney 84

Milwaukee's population has declined a bit the last decade or so. Dane County has had the largest population growth in Wisconsin but not massive - about 12 percent I think in the last decade?

Nothing about Milwaukee looks shady as I've said several times already. Dane's increase was a little high compared to the rest of the state, but if you factor in the population increase and the fact that students voted way more this year than the past few elections, I don't think it's that unusual. Romney did better in Wisconsin by quite a bit than McCain, but remember now, he and his family were raised in Michigan (and his dad was the governor there), so I think that helped his Wisconsin vote totals.

Personally, I think Trump supporters would have better served spending their money on Trump University or Trump Steaks, but maybe their only current option is Trump Recount.

(11-18-2020 11:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Fake news. New report is that they only want to count several key counties...read democratic ones.

And they have not officially filed, nor have they paid.

Wisconsin should tell them to go pound sand...that it's all or nothing.

Regardless, get the money up front...and yes, the estimate for a full recount is still around 7 million per reports. I have not seen anything to change that figure.

Well...what do you know...and to no ones surprise....

Quote:MADISON, Wis. – The Republican-led Legislature's budget committee is holding up reimbursements to two counties for their recount costs.

President Donald Trump's campaign paid $3 million for recounts in Dane and Milwaukee counties, Wisconsin's two most Democratic areas.

But two top Republicans said Friday they were withholding the money from the counties for now. They did not explain why.

Lawmakers "are playing politics with money that isn't theirs," said Milwaukee County Clerk George Christenson.

"It's acting in bad faith," he said. "It's not their money. It's Trump's money and this is what he decided to spend it on."

Wisconsin GOP committee withholds $3 million payments to Dane and Milwaukee counties for recount costs

(12-12-2020 11:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-18-2020 11:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Fake news. New report is that they only want to count several key counties...read democratic ones.

And they have not officially filed, nor have they paid.

Wisconsin should tell them to go pound sand...that it's all or nothing.

Regardless, get the money up front...and yes, the estimate for a full recount is still around 7 million per reports. I have not seen anything to change that figure.

Well...what do you know...and to no ones surprise....

Quote:MADISON, Wis. – The Republican-led Legislature's budget committee is holding up reimbursements to two counties for their recount costs.

President Donald Trump's campaign paid $3 million for recounts in Dane and Milwaukee counties, Wisconsin's two most Democratic areas.

But two top Republicans said Friday they were withholding the money from the counties for now. They did not explain why.

Lawmakers "are playing politics with money that isn't theirs," said Milwaukee County Clerk George Christenson.

"It's acting in bad faith," he said. "It's not their money. It's Trump's money and this is what he decided to spend it on."

Wisconsin GOP committee withholds $3 million payments to Dane and Milwaukee counties for recount costs

If the Wisconsin supreme court tosses out those absentee ballots without applications, Trump owes nothing.

You turdnuggets always think you should get paid, whether you do the job correctly or not.

(12-13-2020 10:58 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-12-2020 11:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-18-2020 11:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Fake news. New report is that they only want to count several key counties...read democratic ones.

And they have not officially filed, nor have they paid.

Wisconsin should tell them to go pound sand...that it's all or nothing.

Regardless, get the money up front...and yes, the estimate for a full recount is still around 7 million per reports. I have not seen anything to change that figure.

Well...what do you know...and to no ones surprise....

Quote:MADISON, Wis. – The Republican-led Legislature's budget committee is holding up reimbursements to two counties for their recount costs.

President Donald Trump's campaign paid $3 million for recounts in Dane and Milwaukee counties, Wisconsin's two most Democratic areas.

But two top Republicans said Friday they were withholding the money from the counties for now. They did not explain why.

Lawmakers "are playing politics with money that isn't theirs," said Milwaukee County Clerk George Christenson.

"It's acting in bad faith," he said. "It's not their money. It's Trump's money and this is what he decided to spend it on."

Wisconsin GOP committee withholds $3 million payments to Dane and Milwaukee counties for recount costs

If the Wisconsin supreme court tosses out those absentee ballots without applications, Trump owes nothing.

You turdnuggets always think you should get paid, whether you do the job correctly or not.

You mean the absentee ballots that were requested in person by presenting ID to a county clerk, a process that has been used in WI without challenge for a decade?

Yeah, that’s not going to happen.

(12-13-2020 11:09 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-13-2020 10:58 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-12-2020 11:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-18-2020 11:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Fake news. New report is that they only want to count several key counties...read democratic ones.

And they have not officially filed, nor have they paid.

Wisconsin should tell them to go pound sand...that it's all or nothing.

Regardless, get the money up front...and yes, the estimate for a full recount is still around 7 million per reports. I have not seen anything to change that figure.

Well...what do you know...and to no ones surprise....

Quote:MADISON, Wis. – The Republican-led Legislature's budget committee is holding up reimbursements to two counties for their recount costs.

President Donald Trump's campaign paid $3 million for recounts in Dane and Milwaukee counties, Wisconsin's two most Democratic areas.

But two top Republicans said Friday they were withholding the money from the counties for now. They did not explain why.

Lawmakers "are playing politics with money that isn't theirs," said Milwaukee County Clerk George Christenson.

"It's acting in bad faith," he said. "It's not their money. It's Trump's money and this is what he decided to spend it on."

Wisconsin GOP committee withholds $3 million payments to Dane and Milwaukee counties for recount costs

If the Wisconsin supreme court tosses out those absentee ballots without applications, Trump owes nothing.

You turdnuggets always think you should get paid, whether you do the job correctly or not.

You mean the absentee ballots that were requested in person by presenting ID to a county clerk, a process that has been used in WI without challenge for a decade?

I mean the ones that are illegal because they have no application.

And you guys have got to keep your lies straight. We are being told that those 150K ballots without applications are people who are permanently infirmed. EVen though that number is 10 times greater than it was two years ago.

Also, if they walked up in person, then they would have filled out an application in person. Because by law they would have to.

Lie better.

(12-13-2020 02:10 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-13-2020 11:09 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-13-2020 10:58 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-12-2020 11:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-18-2020 11:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Fake news. New report is that they only want to count several key counties...read democratic ones.

And they have not officially filed, nor have they paid.

Wisconsin should tell them to go pound sand...that it's all or nothing.

Regardless, get the money up front...and yes, the estimate for a full recount is still around 7 million per reports. I have not seen anything to change that figure.

Well...what do you know...and to no ones surprise....

Quote:MADISON, Wis. – The Republican-led Legislature's budget committee is holding up reimbursements to two counties for their recount costs.

President Donald Trump's campaign paid $3 million for recounts in Dane and Milwaukee counties, Wisconsin's two most Democratic areas.

But two top Republicans said Friday they were withholding the money from the counties for now. They did not explain why.

Lawmakers "are playing politics with money that isn't theirs," said Milwaukee County Clerk George Christenson.

"It's acting in bad faith," he said. "It's not their money. It's Trump's money and this is what he decided to spend it on."

Wisconsin GOP committee withholds $3 million payments to Dane and Milwaukee counties for recount costs

If the Wisconsin supreme court tosses out those absentee ballots without applications, Trump owes nothing.

You turdnuggets always think you should get paid, whether you do the job correctly or not.

You mean the absentee ballots that were requested in person by presenting ID to a county clerk, a process that has been used in WI without challenge for a decade?

I mean the ones that are illegal because they have no application.

And you guys have got to keep your lies straight. We are being told that those 150K ballots without applications are people who are permanently infirmed. EVen though that number is 10 times greater than it was two years ago.

Also, if they walked up in person, then they would have filled out an application in person. Because by law they would have to.

Lie better.

You gotta keep all the ways you want to disenfranchise Democrat voters straight in your head. You continue to be wrong every time you post something. You are literally never right. It would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic, I’m starting to feel sorry for you.

If you want me to post something that is intentionally wrong so you finally get to correct me for your self esteem let me know the code word and I’ll play along.

Absentee ballots without application and Indef Confirmed are different legal challenges.

Be smarter.

“ In a petition filed on November 19, the Trump campaign accused Wisconsin election officials of illegally issuing absentee ballots to in-person voters without first requiring them to fill out an application, a challenge that could invalidate 170,000 votes in Dane and Milwaukee counties. The campaign is not challenging votes cast the same way in Wisconsin’s other 70 counties, including those where he won.

The most consequential challenge is over the legality of in-person absentee ballots — those votes cast between Oct. 20 and November 1 at various drive-through or in-person polling places around the state. The petition claimed that these 170,000 voters in Dane and Milwaukee counties did not have to fill out a written application, which is required by law, to receive their ballots. The issue is what constitutes an application.

At the November 18 Wisconsin Elections Commission meeting, Administrator Meagan Wolfe stated that when absentee in-person voting takes place, the envelope itself — also known as the certificate — acts as the application.

“They fill out the ballot, they put it in the certificate envelope, and they fill out the information on the certificate envelope attesting to their qualification as elector and serving as their absentee ballot application,” Wolfe said. “So especially in the case of in-person absentee, it serves as not only the certification, but as the application for that voter as well.”

https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/syn...e-ballots/

(12-13-2020 02:21 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-13-2020 02:10 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-13-2020 11:09 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-13-2020 10:58 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-12-2020 11:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Well...what do you know...and to no ones surprise....

Wisconsin GOP committee withholds $3 million payments to Dane and Milwaukee counties for recount costs

If the Wisconsin supreme court tosses out those absentee ballots without applications, Trump owes nothing.

You turdnuggets always think you should get paid, whether you do the job correctly or not.

You mean the absentee ballots that were requested in person by presenting ID to a county clerk, a process that has been used in WI without challenge for a decade?

I mean the ones that are illegal because they have no application.

And you guys have got to keep your lies straight. We are being told that those 150K ballots without applications are people who are permanently infirmed. EVen though that number is 10 times greater than it was two years ago.

Also, if they walked up in person, then they would have filled out an application in person. Because by law they would have to.

Lie better.

You gotta keep all the ways you want to disenfranchise Democrat voters straight in your head. You continue to be wrong every time you post something. You are literally never right. It would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic, I’m starting to feel sorry for you.

If you want me to post something that is intentionally wrong so you finally get to correct me for your self esteem let me know the code word and I’ll play along.

Absentee ballots without application and Indef Confirmed are different legal challenges.

Be smarter.

“ In a petition filed on November 19, the Trump campaign accused Wisconsin election officials of illegally issuing absentee ballots to in-person voters without first requiring them to fill out an application, a challenge that could invalidate 170,000 votes in Dane and Milwaukee counties. The campaign is not challenging votes cast the same way in Wisconsin’s other 70 counties, including those where he won.

The most consequential challenge is over the legality of in-person absentee ballots — those votes cast between Oct. 20 and November 1 at various drive-through or in-person polling places around the state. The petition claimed that these 170,000 voters in Dane and Milwaukee counties did not have to fill out a written application, which is required by law, to receive their ballots. The issue is what constitutes an application.

At the November 18 Wisconsin Elections Commission meeting, Administrator Meagan Wolfe stated that when absentee in-person voting takes place, the envelope itself — also known as the certificate — acts as the application.

“They fill out the ballot, they put it in the certificate envelope, and they fill out the information on the certificate envelope attesting to their qualification as elector and serving as their absentee ballot application,” Wolfe said. “So especially in the case of in-person absentee, it serves as not only the certification, but as the application for that voter as well.”

https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/syn...e-ballots/

1. So Wolfe is admitting they dont have applications for these absentees. Thats nice, since we were supposed to believe all of these absentee votes without applications were the permanently infirmed. I guess you guys figured you would lose that case and are changing your tune.

2. The Wisconsin LAW, and Wolfe is NOT THE LAW, says they are illegal without an application. Wolfe can not change the definition of an application that is not in the law. Show me in the law where that procedure can be substituted for an application.

(12-13-2020 03:40 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-13-2020 02:21 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-13-2020 02:10 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-13-2020 11:09 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-13-2020 10:58 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If the Wisconsin supreme court tosses out those absentee ballots without applications, Trump owes nothing.

You turdnuggets always think you should get paid, whether you do the job correctly or not.

You mean the absentee ballots that were requested in person by presenting ID to a county clerk, a process that has been used in WI without challenge for a decade?

I mean the ones that are illegal because they have no application.

And you guys have got to keep your lies straight. We are being told that those 150K ballots without applications are people who are permanently infirmed. EVen though that number is 10 times greater than it was two years ago.

Also, if they walked up in person, then they would have filled out an application in person. Because by law they would have to.

Lie better.

You gotta keep all the ways you want to disenfranchise Democrat voters straight in your head. You continue to be wrong every time you post something. You are literally never right. It would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic, I’m starting to feel sorry for you.

If you want me to post something that is intentionally wrong so you finally get to correct me for your self esteem let me know the code word and I’ll play along.

Absentee ballots without application and Indef Confirmed are different legal challenges.

Be smarter.

“ In a petition filed on November 19, the Trump campaign accused Wisconsin election officials of illegally issuing absentee ballots to in-person voters without first requiring them to fill out an application, a challenge that could invalidate 170,000 votes in Dane and Milwaukee counties. The campaign is not challenging votes cast the same way in Wisconsin’s other 70 counties, including those where he won.

The most consequential challenge is over the legality of in-person absentee ballots — those votes cast between Oct. 20 and November 1 at various drive-through or in-person polling places around the state. The petition claimed that these 170,000 voters in Dane and Milwaukee counties did not have to fill out a written application, which is required by law, to receive their ballots. The issue is what constitutes an application.

At the November 18 Wisconsin Elections Commission meeting, Administrator Meagan Wolfe stated that when absentee in-person voting takes place, the envelope itself — also known as the certificate — acts as the application.

“They fill out the ballot, they put it in the certificate envelope, and they fill out the information on the certificate envelope attesting to their qualification as elector and serving as their absentee ballot application,” Wolfe said. “So especially in the case of in-person absentee, it serves as not only the certification, but as the application for that voter as well.”

https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/syn...e-ballots/

1. So Wolfe is admitting they dont have applications for these absentees. Thats nice, since we were supposed to believe all of these absentee votes without applications were the permanently infirmed. I guess you guys figured you would lose that case and are changing your tune.

2. The Wisconsin LAW, and Wolfe is NOT THE LAW, says they are illegal without an application. Wolfe can not change the definition of an application that is not in the law. Show me in the law where that procedure can be substituted for an application.

Two posts ago you didn’t even know what the lawsuit was about, or the difference between the indefinitely confined argument and the in person paper ballot argument. Keep googling and you can figure out the answers to your own questions. Bonus points for improving your reading comprehension.

Is this your “next big thing”? You went from the Kraken lawsuit, to the PA lawsuit, to the TX lawsuit. Is this lawsuit the next big thing you are going to be all about until it dies off then you will disappear for a few days and come back with a new theory to champion?

I told you before, don’t keep getting you hopes up. You just keep getting disappointed.

(11-18-2020 11:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Fake news. New report is that they only want to count several key counties...read democratic ones.

And they have not officially filed, nor have they paid.

Wisconsin should tell them to go pound sand...that it's all or nothing.

Regardless, get the money up front...and yes, the estimate for a full recount is still around 7 million per reports. I have not seen anything to change that figure.

Actually you should go pound sand...