(11-17-2020 10:24 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 10:21 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 09:39 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  LOL... he pulled a Snopes!

Next he'll probably say Politifact debunks it, too.

LOL...so, what did they get wrong? I'll hang up and wait.....

Snopes is saying that it is true. So what were you saying?

Had to read the whole article to figure it out what he was saying fake news to. Dominion didn't miss any votes, the local election official did not take the memory card out the machine and turn it in for tabulation. So it wasn't a software problem, it was a dumb*** problem

(11-17-2020 10:21 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 09:39 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  LOL... he pulled a Snopes!

Next he'll probably say Politifact debunks it, too.

LOL...so, what did they get wrong? I'll hang up and wait.....

Not holding my breath.

(11-17-2020 10:24 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 10:21 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 09:39 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  LOL... he pulled a Snopes!

Next he'll probably say Politifact debunks it, too.

LOL...so, what did they get wrong? I'll hang up and wait.....

Snopes is saying that it is true. So what were you saying?

Had nothing to do with Dominion. As with nearly all the other anomalys in this election, it was human error.

The thread title is fake news. The snopes article...and others not cited...proves it.

A republican county commission in a state with a republican governor and a republican SoS mishandled ballots resulting in 2600 missing votes. The Democrats are so good at election fraud they convinced the republicans that it was their own fault. That's skill.

(11-17-2020 10:39 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  A republican county commission in a state with a republican governor and a republican SoS mishandled ballots resulting in 2600 missing votes. The Democrats are so good at election fraud they convinced the republicans that it was their own fault. That's skill.

Yeah, but this had nothing to do with the top level brass at the state. It was a local human error issue...that happened in a red county though.

(11-17-2020 10:11 AM)DtownBronco Wrote:  Statistical analysis showing curious, non-random factor potentially applied to vote count. Oddly specific 15% factor shows Biden vote totals catch up as reporting counties are plotted from smallest to largest and vote totals increase.



Credit here:

Skeptics of this analysis are attempting to debunk. If successful, updates to follow!

Lol. So... more populous counties vote more Democratic? Is your last name "Holmes"?

(11-17-2020 10:41 AM)Crayton Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 10:11 AM)DtownBronco Wrote:  Statistical analysis showing curious, non-random factor potentially applied to vote count. Oddly specific 15% factor shows Biden vote totals catch up as reporting counties are plotted from smallest to largest and vote totals increase.



Credit here:

Skeptics of this analysis are attempting to debunk. If successful, updates to follow!

Lol. So... more populous counties vote more Democratic? Is your last name "Holmes"?

Yeah the example is flawed. There isn't one big bag of marbles split 50/50. There are 100 bags of marbles, some are 50/50 and some are 70/30 one way or another. The bags are also different sizes.

Calling the election is like counting cards. You have to look at how many bags of marbles are left to count, their size, and the historical voting trend of the bag of marbles.

(11-17-2020 10:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 10:24 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 10:21 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 09:39 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  LOL... he pulled a Snopes!

Next he'll probably say Politifact debunks it, too.

LOL...so, what did they get wrong? I'll hang up and wait.....

Snopes is saying that it is true. So what were you saying?

Had nothing to do with Dominion. As with nearly all the other anomalys in this election, it was human error.

The thread title is fake news. The snopes article...and others not cited...proves it.

The Daily Mail Snopes Story And Fact Checking The Fact Checkers

Quote:Think about it this way – what if there was a fact checking organization whose fact checkers were all drawn from the ranks of Breitbart and Infowars? Most liberals would likely dismiss such an organization as partisan and biased. Similarly, an organization whose fact checkers were all drawn from Occupy Democrats and Huffington Post might be dismissed by conservatives as partisan and biased. In fact, when I asked several colleagues for their thoughts on this issue this morning, the unanimous response back was that people with strong self-declared political leanings on either side should not be a part of a fact checking organization and all had incorrectly assumed that Snopes would have felt the same way and had a blanket policy against placing partisan individuals as fact checkers.

Quote:Even my colleagues who work in the journalism community and by their nature skeptical, had assumed that Snopes must have rigorous screening procedures, constant inter- and intra-rater evaluations and ongoing assessments and a total transparency mandate. Yet, the truth is that we simply have no visibility into the organization’s inner workings and its founder declined to shed further light into its operations for this article.

You may continue to believe Snopes as the arbiter of truth.

That in no way requires others to follow your lead.

(11-17-2020 09:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 05:47 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The race in GA is already tighter than it was after it was discovered that over 2600 votes in Floyd County were missed by the dominion system that the hand recount found. Of those, about 1900 were for Trump. County election officials stated that if they found almost 3000 missed dominion votes in Floyd County, think of how many dominion could have missed in Fulton county.

This means that every county in every state in the US that used dominion would need to be recounted by hand.

According to Board of Elections Chairman Tom Rees, “the hand count added 2,631 more votes than were registered by computers.” That number was released on Monday after nearly 20 hours of hand counting over the weekend.

It appears that the votes did not come from day of voting or absentee, but rather early voting.

According to Luke Martin, Floyd County GOP chairman, “It is scary that this happened in Floyd County. Imagine what the numbers could look like in places like Fulton County.” Martin Added, “It appears that our elections office did not misplace any ballots, rather it appears as if this is a computer software mishap with the Dominion system.”

Wendy Davis, Rome City Commissioner. “I am proud of the wonderful people who came in and worked tirelessly for two days. What we discovered that the count that the elections office turned into the secretary of state was wrong. “

Of the 2,631 votes sources at the elections office told CVN that it appeared that between 1,600 and 1,900 were cast for President Trump.

https://coosavalleynews.com/2020/11/near...0JlBkt5BMA

Fake news.

Womp...womp.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/floyd-...gia-votes/

You didn’t read what you posted (again), did you?

(11-17-2020 10:47 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 09:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 05:47 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The race in GA is already tighter than it was after it was discovered that over 2600 votes in Floyd County were missed by the dominion system that the hand recount found. Of those, about 1900 were for Trump. County election officials stated that if they found almost 3000 missed dominion votes in Floyd County, think of how many dominion could have missed in Fulton county.

This means that every county in every state in the US that used dominion would need to be recounted by hand.

According to Board of Elections Chairman Tom Rees, “the hand count added 2,631 more votes than were registered by computers.” That number was released on Monday after nearly 20 hours of hand counting over the weekend.

It appears that the votes did not come from day of voting or absentee, but rather early voting.

According to Luke Martin, Floyd County GOP chairman, “It is scary that this happened in Floyd County. Imagine what the numbers could look like in places like Fulton County.” Martin Added, “It appears that our elections office did not misplace any ballots, rather it appears as if this is a computer software mishap with the Dominion system.”

Wendy Davis, Rome City Commissioner. “I am proud of the wonderful people who came in and worked tirelessly for two days. What we discovered that the count that the elections office turned into the secretary of state was wrong. “

Of the 2,631 votes sources at the elections office told CVN that it appeared that between 1,600 and 1,900 were cast for President Trump.

https://coosavalleynews.com/2020/11/near...0JlBkt5BMA

Fake news.

Womp...womp.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/floyd-...gia-votes/

You didn’t read what you posted (again), did you?

You didn't read the title of this thread, did you?

(11-17-2020 10:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 10:11 AM)DtownBronco Wrote:  Statistical analysis showing curious, non-random factor potentially applied to vote count. Oddly specific 15% factor shows Biden vote totals catch up as reporting counties are plotted from smallest to largest and vote totals increase.

Skeptics of this analysis are attempting to debunk. If successful, updates to follow!

I read through some of it but not all...are they trying to say that since the early count favored trump so much that the whole count should have continued on that trend or just narrowed slightly and would have still left trump ahead?

If so, you can't use that model here because mail in ballots were not counted along with the in person voting on election day. It is a known fact that the mail-in ballots were completed by democrats over republicans by a wide margin. Additionally, votes from the populated areas always come in slower than rural ones as well...so again, you're going to get more Republican votes first as those are normally always red counties.

The second chart is more concerning. When arranged by population, the top 25 Georgia counties each has 15% more Biden votes than the previous County. That doesn’t happen naturally.

(11-17-2020 11:10 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 10:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 10:11 AM)DtownBronco Wrote:  Statistical analysis showing curious, non-random factor potentially applied to vote count. Oddly specific 15% factor shows Biden vote totals catch up as reporting counties are plotted from smallest to largest and vote totals increase.

Skeptics of this analysis are attempting to debunk. If successful, updates to follow!

I read through some of it but not all...are they trying to say that since the early count favored trump so much that the whole count should have continued on that trend or just narrowed slightly and would have still left trump ahead?

If so, you can't use that model here because mail in ballots were not counted along with the in person voting on election day. It is a known fact that the mail-in ballots were completed by democrats over republicans by a wide margin. Additionally, votes from the populated areas always come in slower than rural ones as well...so again, you're going to get more Republican votes first as those are normally always red counties.

The second chart is more concerning. When arranged by population, the top 25 Georgia counties each has 15% more Biden votes than the previous County. That doesn’t happen naturally.

It’s common knowledge that nationwide more populous counties vote more democratic. Look at any map that flags counties red and blue.

(11-17-2020 10:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 10:11 AM)DtownBronco Wrote:  Statistical analysis showing curious, non-random factor potentially applied to vote count. Oddly specific 15% factor shows Biden vote totals catch up as reporting counties are plotted from smallest to largest and vote totals increase.

Skeptics of this analysis are attempting to debunk. If successful, updates to follow!

I read through some of it but not all...are they trying to say that since the early count favored trump so much that the whole count should have continued on that trend or just narrowed slightly and would have still left trump ahead?

If so, you can't use that model here because mail in ballots were not counted along with the in person voting on election day. It is a known fact that the mail-in ballots were completed by democrats over republicans by a wide margin. Additionally, votes from the populated areas always come in slower than rural ones as well...so again, you're going to get more Republican votes first as those are normally always red counties.

No, the plot isn't time dependent. The X-axis is the total votes cast. The Y-axis is percentage of votes received. The counties are ordered from least votes cast to most votes cast. The red line is Trump, dark blue is Biden, light blue is Jorgensen. Note how Jorgensen’s line is horizontal. The attempt is to show that the results from the smaller counties tend to be an indicator of where the total will end up. Historically, once 20-30% of the votes are tabulated, the statistics will tell you the odds of a candidate winning a particular race are 98% and all the news people will project a winner at that point.

The anomaly is that this data set goes nearly linear as the larger counties are added. As you move along the X-axis, after over one million votes, the curves show almost a one-to-one (0.9815) vote add for Biden and resulting delete for Trump as a part of the whole. Now I get it that larger suburban counties surrounding large cities tend to favor the Dems, but it shouldn't be this clean of trend. The claim is that this was accomplished by a correction factor in the software, hence the need for extra time to tabulate.

They probably have Halloween on Christmas, in the night they will wish it never ends................

The party of science sure doesn’t understand math or computer algorithms very well. The point of those graphs is that nature is not linear. Whoever did that work, assuming the data is correct, has discovered how the algorithm was set as to be least likely to be detected.

This is also telling as to why vote counting stoppages were necessary. The program needed time to calculate and forecast to set the proper percentages as to make the race close, but not so close as to leave possibilities for defeat or an unbelievable margin of victory.

Somebody had to write that program and they need to be found and executed for treason along with the people who paid them to do it.

(11-17-2020 11:45 AM)banker Wrote:  The party of science sure doesn’t understand math or computer algorithms very well. The point of those graphs is that nature is not linear. Whoever did that work, assuming the data is correct, has discovered how the algorithm was set as to be least likely to be detected.

This is also telling as to why vote counting stoppages were necessary. The program needed time to calculate and forecast to set the proper percentages as to make the race close, but not so close as to leave possibilities for defeat or an unbelievable margin of victory.

Somebody had to write that program and they need to be found and executed for treason along with the people who paid them to do it.

Exactly! The curves go from non-linear to linear once the algorithm had enough data, in this case over one million votes, to apply the correct "fudge" factor.

(11-17-2020 11:24 AM)Crayton Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 11:10 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 10:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 10:11 AM)DtownBronco Wrote:  Statistical analysis showing curious, non-random factor potentially applied to vote count. Oddly specific 15% factor shows Biden vote totals catch up as reporting counties are plotted from smallest to largest and vote totals increase.

Skeptics of this analysis are attempting to debunk. If successful, updates to follow!

I read through some of it but not all...are they trying to say that since the early count favored trump so much that the whole count should have continued on that trend or just narrowed slightly and would have still left trump ahead?

If so, you can't use that model here because mail in ballots were not counted along with the in person voting on election day. It is a known fact that the mail-in ballots were completed by democrats over republicans by a wide margin. Additionally, votes from the populated areas always come in slower than rural ones as well...so again, you're going to get more Republican votes first as those are normally always red counties.

The second chart is more concerning. When arranged by population, the top 25 Georgia counties each has 15% more Biden votes than the previous County. That doesn’t happen naturally.

It’s common knowledge that nationwide more populous counties vote more democratic. Look at any map that flags counties red and blue.

That’s true, but that’s not a linear function. It should vary randomly from county to county. It may be a Biden lead in all the top 25 counties by population, but it wouldnt be 15% bigger in each consecutive county when arranged by population.

(11-17-2020 11:52 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 11:24 AM)Crayton Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 11:10 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 10:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-17-2020 10:11 AM)DtownBronco Wrote:  Statistical analysis showing curious, non-random factor potentially applied to vote count. Oddly specific 15% factor shows Biden vote totals catch up as reporting counties are plotted from smallest to largest and vote totals increase.

Skeptics of this analysis are attempting to debunk. If successful, updates to follow!

I read through some of it but not all...are they trying to say that since the early count favored trump so much that the whole count should have continued on that trend or just narrowed slightly and would have still left trump ahead?

If so, you can't use that model here because mail in ballots were not counted along with the in person voting on election day. It is a known fact that the mail-in ballots were completed by democrats over republicans by a wide margin. Additionally, votes from the populated areas always come in slower than rural ones as well...so again, you're going to get more Republican votes first as those are normally always red counties.

The second chart is more concerning. When arranged by population, the top 25 Georgia counties each has 15% more Biden votes than the previous County. That doesn’t happen naturally.

It’s common knowledge that nationwide more populous counties vote more democratic. Look at any map that flags counties red and blue.

That’s true, but that’s not a linear function. It should vary randomly from county to county. It may be a Biden lead in all the top 25 counties by population, but it wouldnt be 15% bigger in each consecutive county when arranged by population.

Yes! This is the key... The alarmingly uniform trend line.

The counties that hold cities like Atlanta with the most people would vote Democrats than the less populated counties. That is why Biden caught and over took Trump. There were more votes to count. The issue here is human error at the local level and not a software. That is why the first link is fake news, and is nothing but a conspiracy theories that are not based on facts.