(08-30-2020 05:26 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 05:21 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  I'd rather eat Tide pods.

With or without OxyClean?

The hardcore kids are eating them laced with hydroxychloroquin now

(08-30-2020 07:16 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 05:26 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 05:21 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  I'd rather eat Tide pods.

With or without OxyClean?

The hardcore kids are eating them laced with hydroxychloroquin now

Went to a party with Panic and thought he had a kilo of blow. Nope, he was snorting fat lines of hydrochloroquin

(08-30-2020 07:08 PM)Penny1 Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 05:16 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  No to UAB or UNLV either. We need teams with winning reputations. Not potential or more mouths to feed.

SMU has no room to talk about winning reputations.

One year doesn't make you have a winning reputation.

Memphis, despite our latest constancy, doesn't even have room to talk about others not being worthy.

In fact, I remember most AAC/Big East fans blasting our football program when we got invited. Now look where we are.

Who's to say UNLV or UAB won't have the same success?


https://www.al.com/uab/2019/06/ua-bot-wo...rence.html

It is true that SMU doesn’t have a winning record like Notre Dame or Ohio State. But we have won a National Championship and had stars like Doak Walker, Kyle Rote, Don Meridith, Eric Dickerson, Craig James, and more recently Emanuel Sanders, and many more. No “potential” there.

Oh and I didn’t even mention Raymond Berry, Forrest Gregg, Jerry Levias, and many more.

(08-30-2020 06:13 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  The only way I could see something like this happening is as if the Power5 had some big major shakeup and reformed into four super conferences. It has been discussed before when the Big 12 was on shaky ground. I am not all that confident in it happening anymore. The Big 12 seems to be more stabilized. We will see where it goes from here. But this won’t even potentially happen unless the other happens first. Just my opinion.

Also, Aresco said he is not raiding any conferences. So I see one team joining before anything else happens and I feel like it will be a team located somewhere in our current geographic footprint.

Aresco might be saying that he won't raid another conference, the ACC can say that they never did either. If the right team from any conference reaches out to Th AAC Aresco will listen and accept that team.

(08-30-2020 04:28 PM)Penny1 Wrote:  The WAC was poorly arranged and I don't recall them playing in a pod division.

I remember them being a 16-team conference.

But that was before it was considered a future thing with the 4 major conferences, which will most likely happen sooner than later.

You must be one of the young pups on here, the WAC had 4 pods of 4 teams each. That was the excuse given for the airport meeting that lead to the MWC. Some of the teams said that while the pods rotated they didn’t want to wait 8 years to play teams they considered rivals.

(08-30-2020 03:26 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 02:42 PM)Penny1 Wrote:  If Aresco really wants to make the AAC a legit P6 conference and separate from the "group of 5" then he needs to think outside of the box.

Instead of staying put at 11 or adding a team to get back to 12, why not go BIG by expanding to 16 and become the first nationwide pod super conference?

The best option would be to raid the challenging MWC. Go get San Diego State, Boise State and UNLV as full memberships.

Convince BYU to join as a full member by allowing them to keep their tv deal with ESPN.

Add UAB as a full member who is putting money into football and building a strong program.

UAB is opening a new 50,000 seat stadium next year and wants to join the AAC and have been vocal about it.

Create four regional divisional pods of four teams each.

Atlantic Pod: East Carolina, Temple, UCF, USF

Central Pod: Cincinnati, Memphis, Tulane, UAB

Southwest Pod: Houston, Navy(fb only), SMU, Tulsa (Wichita State for bb)

Pacific Pod: Boise State, BYU, San Diego State, UNLV

In basketball keep the four pod setup.

Each pod group would play home & home with their pod members and just one game against everyone else, resulting in a 18-game conference schedule.

Being in pod groups would also balance out traveling expenses.

ESPN would probably up the payout with more football talent and potential added.

UNLV may not be good in football right now, but they have great potential by moving into the new Raiders stadium.

The basketball side would be upgraded too with additions of SDSU, UNLV (traditionally good), BYU and UAB (also traditionally good). Boise State would have potential to grow their bb program potential by being in a power conference.

With the additional members it would increase our SOS and chance at breaking into the playoffs, which are most likely going to expand to eight in the near future.

I know some want Air Force, but that wouldn't improve our blueprint nor perception much nationally.

They wouldn't move the money needle either. Besides, we already have one military school.

We need markets to expand the AAC brand.

Wow.I wonder why no one has ever thought of this before lol ?,,,,,

To be fair, nobody else has thought about this...this weekend.

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(08-30-2020 07:01 PM)Penny1 Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 06:22 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 05:21 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  I'd rather eat Tide pods.

I'm with you! Sounds like a high school setup.

High school?

You do realize that this will most likely be what happens when the 4 super conferences realign, right?

An SEC coach, I believe it was Steve Courier when he was at South Carolina, proposed it first.

There aren’t going to be realignment of 4 super conferences. There is no cohesion in any of these conferences, autonomy conferences included. Just look at this season, the B10 and PAC12 are sitting out and calling everyone that is playing a bunch of rubes. Even within the B10 and PAC12 there is dissent on whether to play.

Can we just stay at 11, or add one football team to get to 12? I could write a whole page of nonsense, but...

(08-31-2020 07:57 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  Can we just stay at 11, or add one football team to get to 12? I could write a whole page of nonsense, but...

Be the DavidST of ECU

(08-31-2020 08:02 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-31-2020 07:57 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  Can we just stay at 11, or add one football team to get to 12? I could write a whole page of nonsense, but...

Be the DavidST of ECU

Big shoes to fill

(08-30-2020 07:12 PM)Penny1 Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 05:37 PM)texoma Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 02:42 PM)Penny1 Wrote:  If Aresco really wants to make the AAC a legit P6 conference and separate from the "group of 5" then he needs to think outside of the box.

Instead of staying put at 11 or adding a team to get back to 12, why not go BIG by expanding to 16 and become the first nationwide pod super conference?

The best option would be to raid the challenging MWC. Go get San Diego State, Boise State and UNLV as full memberships.

Convince BYU to join as a full member by allowing them to keep their tv deal with ESPN.

Add UAB as a full member who is putting money into football and building a strong program.

UAB is opening a new 50,000 seat stadium next year and wants to join the AAC and have been vocal about it.

Create four regional divisional pods of four teams each.

Atlantic Pod: East Carolina, Temple, UCF, USF

Central Pod: Cincinnati, Memphis, Tulane, UAB

Southwest Pod: Houston, Navy(fb only), SMU, Tulsa (Wichita State for bb)

Pacific Pod: Boise State, BYU, San Diego State, UNLV

In basketball keep the four pod setup.

Each pod group would play home & home with their pod members and just one game against everyone else, resulting in a 18-game conference schedule.

Being in pod groups would also balance out traveling expenses.

ESPN would probably up the payout with more football talent and potential added.

UNLV may not be good in football right now, but they have great potential by moving into the new Raiders stadium.

The basketball side would be upgraded too with additions of SDSU, UNLV (traditionally good), BYU and UAB (also traditionally good). Boise State would have potential to grow their bb program potential by being in a power conference.

With the additional members it would increase our SOS and chance at breaking into the playoffs, which are most likely going to expand to eight in the near future.

I know some want Air Force, but that wouldn't improve our blueprint nor perception much nationally.

They wouldn't move the money needle either. Besides, we already have one military school.

We need markets to expand the AAC brand.

"Just go get........ BYU, Boise, UNLV and SDSU".

What if they do not want to join the AAC? Then what?

But what if they do? Then what?

SDSU, BSU, UNLV, and UAB are all making peanuts opposed to what the AAC is making.

I think they would want more money than what they're getting.

They might and they might not. Your OP made it sound like all the AAC had to do was go get them, as if they had no choice.

IMO if they wanted in the AAC they would have come before now.

(08-31-2020 10:19 AM)texoma Wrote:  They might and they might not. Your OP made it sound like all the AAC had to do was go get them, as if they had no choice.

IMO if they wanted in the AAC they would have come before now.

if we wanted uab (we dont) theyd already be in the aac

sdsu is on record thatthey wanted to stay in the aac, but couldnt find a travel partner which is why they returned

boise wanted the aac, but the aac wasnt willing to give them a special deal like they have with the mwc

its not as black and white as you are making it seem

I don't think that UNLV has any interest in the AAC or visa versa. NFL stadiums hurt more than help a college team. (Witness: Tulane, Temple, USF)

(08-30-2020 07:01 PM)Penny1 Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 06:22 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 05:21 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  I'd rather eat Tide pods.

I'm with you! Sounds like a high school setup.

High school?

You do realize that this will most likely be what happens when the 4 super conferences realign, right?

An SEC coach, I believe it was Steve Courier when he was at South Carolina, proposed it first.

You mean Spurrier right?

(08-30-2020 02:42 PM)Penny1 Wrote:  If Aresco really wants to make the AAC a legit P6 conference and separate from the "group of 5" then he needs to think outside of the box.

Instead of staying put at 11 or adding a team to get back to 12, why not go BIG by expanding to 16 and become the first nationwide pod super conference?

The best option would be to raid the challenging MWC. Go get San Diego State, Boise State and UNLV as full memberships.

Convince BYU to join as a full member by allowing them to keep their tv deal with ESPN.

Add UAB as a full member who is putting money into football and building a strong program.

UAB is opening a new 50,000 seat stadium next year and wants to join the AAC and have been vocal about it.

Create four regional divisional pods of four teams each.

Atlantic Pod: East Carolina, Temple, UCF, USF

Central Pod: Cincinnati, Memphis, Tulane, UAB

Southwest Pod: Houston, Navy(fb only), SMU, Tulsa (Wichita State for bb)

Pacific Pod: Boise State, BYU, San Diego State, UNLV

In basketball keep the four pod setup.

Each pod group would play home & home with their pod members and just one game against everyone else, resulting in a 18-game conference schedule.

Being in pod groups would also balance out traveling expenses.

ESPN would probably up the payout with more football talent and potential added.

UNLV may not be good in football right now, but they have great potential by moving into the new Raiders stadium.

The basketball side would be upgraded too with additions of SDSU, UNLV (traditionally good), BYU and UAB (also traditionally good). Boise State would have potential to grow their bb program potential by being in a power conference.

With the additional members it would increase our SOS and chance at breaking into the playoffs, which are most likely going to expand to eight in the near future.

I know some want Air Force, but that wouldn't improve our blueprint nor perception much nationally.

They wouldn't move the money needle either. Besides, we already have one military school.

We need markets to expand the AAC brand.

Your premise is sound by your execution is off. A three pod system designed to ensure the AAC champion has the best chance of getting into the proposed 8 team playoff's g5 slot is genius. However, each of those pods needs a Academy in it to further our argument of inclusion. Further, by only requiring the academies to play their conference mate pods and one other AAC on rotation it ensure two things. With an 18 team AAC...

1. AAC schools will only have to play 2 academies a year only about twice a decade. This alleviates the concern and objection many schools have in regards to having more than one academy in a conference.

2. By only having 6 AAC conference games, the academies can schedule nationally while also scheduling enough cup cakes to ensure annual bowl eligibility.

Remember, the purpose of this is not to create a traditional conference with normal scheduling. The goal is to basically ensure ourselves playoff inclusion. Offset Army and AFA with Dayton and VCU and that gives us 18 teams and a full 17 game schedule where everybody plays everybody once. That frees up the AAC basketball schools to load up their OOC schedule. If another game is needed lock in a rival for each school where they do a h&h. For football, highest rated pod champs as determined by the playoff get to play in the championship game. 9 game scheduled...

18 team AAC

East
ECU
Temple
UCF
USF
Tulane
*Army

Midwest
Memphis
Houston
Cinci
SMU
Tulsa
*Navy

West
Boise
BYU
SDSU
CSU
UNLV
*Air Force

(08-31-2020 10:32 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(08-31-2020 10:19 AM)texoma Wrote:  They might and they might not. Your OP made it sound like all the AAC had to do was go get them, as if they had no choice.

IMO if they wanted in the AAC they would have come before now.

if we wanted uab (we dont) theyd already be in the aac

sdsu is on record thatthey wanted to stay in the aac, but couldnt find a travel partner which is why they returned

boise wanted the aac, but the aac wasnt willing to give them a special deal like they have with the mwc

its not as black and white as you are making it seem

You say SDSU wanted to 'STAY' in the AAC... when was SDSU ever in the AAC? and Boise did not want to be regular member of the AAC, but a hybrid.

It is black and white...read the OP and my response. It is not as simple as just go get certain schools added to the AAC. Those schools have a choice and must want to be added to the AAC.

PS - I said IMO if they wanted to be in the AAC they would have come before now. That is not a black and white statement.

(08-31-2020 12:04 PM)texoma Wrote:  

(08-31-2020 10:32 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(08-31-2020 10:19 AM)texoma Wrote:  They might and they might not. Your OP made it sound like all the AAC had to do was go get them, as if they had no choice.

IMO if they wanted in the AAC they would have come before now.

if we wanted uab (we dont) theyd already be in the aac

sdsu is on record thatthey wanted to stay in the aac, but couldnt find a travel partner which is why they returned

boise wanted the aac, but the aac wasnt willing to give them a special deal like they have with the mwc

its not as black and white as you are making it seem

You say SDSU wanted to 'STAY' in the AAC... when was SDSU ever in the AAC? and Boise did not want to be regular member of the AAC, but a hybrid.

It is black and white...read the OP and my response. It is not as simple as just go get certain schools added to the AAC. Those schools have a choice and must want to be added to the AAC.

PS - I said IMO if they wanted to be in the AAC they would have come before now. That is not a black and white statement.

I think both SDSU and Boise joined. Prior to any games being played, Boise backed out, and SDSU followed suit.

(08-31-2020 12:04 PM)texoma Wrote:  

(08-31-2020 10:32 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(08-31-2020 10:19 AM)texoma Wrote:  They might and they might not. Your OP made it sound like all the AAC had to do was go get them, as if they had no choice.

IMO if they wanted in the AAC they would have come before now.

if we wanted uab (we dont) theyd already be in the aac

sdsu is on record thatthey wanted to stay in the aac, but couldnt find a travel partner which is why they returned

boise wanted the aac, but the aac wasnt willing to give them a special deal like they have with the mwc

its not as black and white as you are making it seem

You say SDSU wanted to 'STAY' in the AAC... when was SDSU ever in the AAC? and Boise did not want to be regular member of the AAC, but a hybrid.

It is black and white...read the OP and my response. It is not as simple as just go get certain schools added to the AAC. Those schools have a choice and must want to be added to the AAC.

PS - I said IMO if they wanted to be in the AAC they would have come before now. That is not a black and white statement.

Boise & SDSU had accepted invites to the AAC for 2013 but Boise backed out after the MWC bent themselves over a barrel for them, SDSU then was the only team west of Texas so they had no choice but to rejoin the MWC as well.

(08-31-2020 11:33 AM)Shox Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 02:42 PM)Penny1 Wrote:  If Aresco really wants to make the AAC a legit P6 conference and separate from the "group of 5" then he needs to think outside of the box.

Instead of staying put at 11 or adding a team to get back to 12, why not go BIG by expanding to 16 and become the first nationwide pod super conference?

The best option would be to raid the challenging MWC. Go get San Diego State, Boise State and UNLV as full memberships.

Convince BYU to join as a full member by allowing them to keep their tv deal with ESPN.

Add UAB as a full member who is putting money into football and building a strong program.

UAB is opening a new 50,000 seat stadium next year and wants to join the AAC and have been vocal about it.

Create four regional divisional pods of four teams each.

Atlantic Pod: East Carolina, Temple, UCF, USF

Central Pod: Cincinnati, Memphis, Tulane, UAB

Southwest Pod: Houston, Navy(fb only), SMU, Tulsa (Wichita State for bb)

Pacific Pod: Boise State, BYU, San Diego State, UNLV

In basketball keep the four pod setup.

Each pod group would play home & home with their pod members and just one game against everyone else, resulting in a 18-game conference schedule.

Being in pod groups would also balance out traveling expenses.

ESPN would probably up the payout with more football talent and potential added.

UNLV may not be good in football right now, but they have great potential by moving into the new Raiders stadium.

The basketball side would be upgraded too with additions of SDSU, UNLV (traditionally good), BYU and UAB (also traditionally good). Boise State would have potential to grow their bb program potential by being in a power conference.

With the additional members it would increase our SOS and chance at breaking into the playoffs, which are most likely going to expand to eight in the near future.

I know some want Air Force, but that wouldn't improve our blueprint nor perception much nationally.

They wouldn't move the money needle either. Besides, we already have one military school.

We need markets to expand the AAC brand.

Your premise is sound by your execution is off. A three pod system designed to ensure the AAC champion has the best chance of getting into the proposed 8 team playoff's g5 slot is genius. However, each of those pods needs a Academy in it to further our argument of inclusion. Further, by only requiring the academies to play their conference mate pods and one other AAC on rotation it ensure two things. With an 18 team AAC...

1. AAC schools will only have to play 2 academies a year only about twice a decade. This alleviates the concern and objection many schools have in regards to having more than one academy in a conference.

2. By only having 6 AAC conference games, the academies can schedule nationally while also scheduling enough cup cakes to ensure annual bowl eligibility.

Remember, the purpose of this is not to create a traditional conference with normal scheduling. The goal is to basically ensure ourselves playoff inclusion. Offset Army and AFA with Dayton and VCU and that gives us 18 teams and a full 17 game schedule where everybody plays everybody once. That frees up the AAC basketball schools to load up their OOC schedule. If another game is needed lock in a rival for each school where they do a h&h. For football, highest rated pod champs as determined by the playoff get to play in the championship game. 9 game scheduled...

18 team AAC

East
ECU
Temple
UCF
USF
Tulane
*Army

Midwest
Memphis
Houston
Cinci
SMU
Tulsa
*Navy

West
Boise
BYU
SDSU
CSU
UNLV
*Air Force

This is certainly reasonable but you need to flip Navy and AF so Navy gets to play in San Diego every other year.....

(08-31-2020 12:04 PM)texoma Wrote:  

(08-31-2020 10:32 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(08-31-2020 10:19 AM)texoma Wrote:  They might and they might not. Your OP made it sound like all the AAC had to do was go get them, as if they had no choice.

IMO if they wanted in the AAC they would have come before now.

if we wanted uab (we dont) theyd already be in the aac

sdsu is on record thatthey wanted to stay in the aac, but couldnt find a travel partner which is why they returned

boise wanted the aac, but the aac wasnt willing to give them a special deal like they have with the mwc

its not as black and white as you are making it seem

You say SDSU wanted to 'STAY' in the AAC... when was SDSU ever in the AAC? and Boise did not want to be regular member of the AAC, but a hybrid.

It is black and white...read the OP and my response. It is not as simple as just go get certain schools added to the AAC. Those schools have a choice and must want to be added to the AAC.

PS - I said IMO if they wanted to be in the AAC they would have come before now. That is not a black and white statement.

you are aware sdsu is still technically a member of the aac, and "left" a few sports in the aac when they returned to the mwc

when you play a psort is not when you "join" , boise had to pay an exit fee, becuase they joined the big east/aac...sdsu and boise were members when they signed

sdsu and boise wanted to be FULL members....WE didnt want them to be full member because of logistic and travel costs..they were putting their olympics in a low major conference...boise would killed for the aac over the big west ...the aac is the 4th conference in baseball, and the 7th conference in basketball..the big west is the 24 in basketball and 15th in baseball

you missed my point its no about "want", its more complicated than that...sdsu wanted aac, we wanted sdsu..sdsu is not in the aac (*For the revenue sports)