It is over...likely by this Tuesday...probably for the best...allows the stars to prepare for the more important NFL Draft...see ya in the Fall of 2021.

Commissioners of the Power 5 conferences held an emergency meeting on Sunday, as there is growing concern among college athletics officials that the upcoming football season and other fall sports can't be played because of the coronavirus pandemic, sources told ESPN.

Several sources have indicated to ESPN that Big Ten presidents, following a meeting on Saturday, are ready to pull the plug on its fall sports season, and they wanted to gauge if commissioners and university presidents and chancellors from the other Power 5 conferences -- the ACC, Big 12, Pac-12 and SEC -- will fall in line with them.

Sources told ESPN that a vast majority of Big Ten presidents have indicated that they would vote to postpone football season, hopefully to the spring. A Big Ten official confirmed to ESPN that no official vote took place during Saturday's meeting, but the presidents are set to meet again Sunday night.

By all means let us allow the Big 10 to run college football.

(08-09-2020 07:56 PM)Statefan Wrote:  By all means let us allow the Big 10 to run college football.

Do not make the declaration of student athlete safety and say you are looking into playing in the spring. Then turn around and play a fall season. Do they honestly believe their bodies will be able to take two football seasons in 1 year?

Screw the Big 10+4

It's a B10 control thing. They want this fall shut down for reasons that include wanting to catch up to certain southern programs and to attempt to prevent unions from forming in their non-right to work states. In this case the B10 is pimping for P12 (just like what UNC and Duke do for each other). All but Utah, Arizona, and ASU are located in union shop states. Ohio State, NW, Illinois, Minnesota, Wisconsin, PSU, and Rutgers are all located in union shop states.

When you first heard bitching from NW about paying players, that was a more palatable excuse than wanting to avoid unions.

We have two COVID vaccines in round three clinicals. They could be ready for limited deployment as early as September. If the punt is to Spring then what they're really saying is "we want to buy time for a vaccine."

I think the ACC and SEC should play, and the NCAA should allow any player that want to transfer to an ACC or SEC team and play this year to do so.

Yea I’m not understanding why the BigTen is trying its best to be the mouth piece of college football. I hope the ACC and the SEC steps up with the Big12 close behind them to continue with their plans to have a season. If High Schools are going to participate in what appears to be a shorter Football Season then College Football shouldn’t shut down. College Football has way more and better resources than high schools across the country to help fight against the Covid.

I think what college football should do is line up where each school has a schedule game every other week. One week you could have the ACC and Big12 play the next week the SEC and the BigTen and so forth due to their start dates and this way ALL of us would benefit with football every week.

This concept of scheduling games would give teams 14 days in between games to help quarantine players if they get the exposure to the virus. I think it’s ten days you must be quarantine if you have a positive and 14 days if you think you have been exposed. So with scheduling every other week this would help keep players safe or safer than playing every week.

Most likely there isn’t going to be a Bowl season this year, and if that’s the case with scheduling games every other week would take games up to the end of December early January giving us some sort of normalcy.

So WHY is the BigTen trying to dictate what others should or shouldn’t be doing???

People are always sending me things they want me to include in my football blog, and one I got today from a Las Vegas sports book says in part

Quote:The odds imply a 90.9% probability that at least one major conference will call off fall football very soon.

I think the Pac-12 is so beleaguered they probably will end up cancelling football. I also think 10 of the 14 Big Ten schools want to cancel, but Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan and Nebraska want to play on.

(08-10-2020 07:29 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  People are always sending me things they want me to include in my football blog, and one I got today from a Las Vegas sports book says in part

Quote:The odds imply a 90.9% probability that at least one major conference will call off fall football very soon.

I think the Pac-12 is so beleaguered they probably will end up cancelling football. I also think 10 of the 14 Big Ten schools want to cancel, but Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan and Nebraska want to play on.

link please ...

CROSS PROMOTION

(08-10-2020 07:41 AM)green Wrote:  

(08-10-2020 07:29 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  People are always sending me things they want me to include in my football blog, and one I got today from a Las Vegas sports book says in part

Quote:The odds imply a 90.9% probability that at least one major conference will call off fall football very soon.

I think the Pac-12 is so beleaguered they probably will end up cancelling football. I also think 10 of the 14 Big Ten schools want to cancel, but Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan and Nebraska want to play on.

link please ...

CROSS PROMOTION

https://www.sportsbetting.ag/sportsbook/...f-specials

(08-10-2020 07:54 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(08-10-2020 07:41 AM)green Wrote:  

(08-10-2020 07:29 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  People are always sending me things they want me to include in my football blog, and one I got today from a Las Vegas sports book says in part

Quote:The odds imply a 90.9% probability that at least one major conference will call off fall football very soon.

I think the Pac-12 is so beleaguered they probably will end up cancelling football. I also think 10 of the 14 Big Ten schools want to cancel, but Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan and Nebraska want to play on.

link please ...

CROSS PROMOTION

https://www.sportsbetting.ag/sportsbook/...f-specials

your blog ...

MY PILLOW

https://247sports.com/Article/Paul-Fineb...150070475/

Paul Finebaum reports that the SEC is pushing back on cancelling or postponing.

Quote:"There is plenty of pushback," Finebaum said on ESPN's Get Up. "I talked to an SEC source yesterday, who said ‘we’re still planning on playing. We have our schedule release coming up in a couple of days.’ Remember, Friday night, the SEC released the two additional conference games.

During the show, ESPN reporter Heather Dinich received a text from Texas A&M athletic director Ross Bjork who said the SEC has not made a decision and is moving independently of other conferences.

"To Paul's point, Ross told me, 'we have regularly scheduled meetings this week to continue to focus on moving forward,'" Dinich said. "We don't need to change our approach right now. Things are fluid but we still have time."

I told you we shouldn't have kept Central Florida on the schedule. UCF just can't play a normal game against an ACC team.

UCF @ GT 2000: Some kid named George Godsey makes his first start as QB. The game was delayed by lightning many hours. Godsey looked as bad as the weather but in the second half made everybody go "so we might be alright without Joe Hamilton..." Godsey would end up owning nearly every single season passing record at GT in his remaining two years. He never lost to UGAg.

UCF vs GT 2017: Hurricane cancellation. UCF's game vs Maine was cancelled and in its place they played Memphis which also had their UCF game hurricane cancelled.

UCF @ UNC 2018: Hurricane cancellation
UCF vs Pitt 2018: Bipolar Pitt is going to bipolar ... could barely lose an ACC conference game, couldn't win an OOC game all year other than FCS Albany.

UCF @ Pitt 2019: Pitt Special.

UCF vs UNC 2020: COVID cancellation
UCF @ GT 2020: Verge of COVID cancellation



Look can we just stop playing UCF? It started with lightning, it moved to hurricanes, and now it's pandemics. If we keep this up it will result in a meteor impact.

(08-09-2020 10:09 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  We have two COVID vaccines in round three clinicals. They could be ready for limited deployment as early as September. If the punt is to Spring then what they're really saying is "we want to buy time for a vaccine."

While I would love to see a vaccine ready for even limited deployment in September, that's just not gonna happen, IMO.

The round three human trials won't be over until sometime this fall. After that, they will need at least a couple of months to analyze the data from the tens of thousand of human volunteers. While the initial lab results appear to be promising, we won't really know the full efficacy or safety of these vaccines until we get these results. One thing I do know - having been around for the 1975 swine flu vaccine sh*tshow, they will not rush anything out to the public until they are sure it has some degree of efficacy and it is safe.

Given the time it is going to take to ramp up production, I don't think we be seeing any meaningful vaccination programs until late winter/ early spring, next year, at the earliest. Even then - I don't think there will be enough of a stock to vaccinate everyone who wants it. I would guess the priority will be (1) front line healthcare workers, (2) people will compromised health, (3) people over age 60, and then everyone else. Young healthy athletes will probably rank in the last category.

As we move into the fall/winter flu season, it is not unreasonable to assume that things might get a bit worse before getting better. I am not arguing for or against a fall sports season, but, IMO, thinking that CFB can be punted to the spring seems to me like wishful thinking at best, and magical thinking at worst.

Again, I am certainly not advocating for this, but if they cancel the fall sports season, I don't see how they can go forward with winter sports (BB and hockey, for example) that are played INDOORS. I think the spring will also be iffy.

The other alternative is to learn to live with this. If the vaccines are a bust, we will really have no other choice.

Just my 2 cents.

(08-10-2020 12:09 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 10:09 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  We have two COVID vaccines in round three clinicals. They could be ready for limited deployment as early as September. If the punt is to Spring then what they're really saying is "we want to buy time for a vaccine."

While I would love to see a vaccine ready for even limited deployment in September, that's just not gonna happen, IMO.

The round three human trials won't be over until sometime this fall. After that, they will need at least a couple of months to analyze the data from the tens of thousand of human volunteers. While the initial lab results appear to be promising, we won't really know the full efficacy or safety of these vaccines until we get these results. One thing I do know - having been around for the 1975 swine flu vaccine sh*tshow, they will not rush anything out to the public until they are sure it has some degree of efficacy and it is safe.

Given the time it is going to take to ramp up production, I don't think we be seeing any meaningful vaccination programs until late winter/ early spring, next year, at the earliest. Even then - I don't think there will be enough of a stock to vaccinate everyone who wants it. I would guess the priority will be (1) front line healthcare workers, (2) people will compromised health, (3) people over age 60, and then everyone else. Young healthy athletes will probably rank in the last category.

As we move into the fall/winter flu season, it is not unreasonable to assume that things might get a bit worse before getting better. I am not arguing for or against a fall sports season, but, IMO, thinking that CFB can be punted to the spring seems to me like wishful thinking at best, and magical thinking at worst.

Again, I am certainly not advocating for this, but if they cancel the fall sports season, I don't see how they can go forward with winter sports (BB and hockey, for example) that are played INDOORS. I think the spring will also be iffy.

The other alternative is to learn to live with this. If the vaccines are a bust, we will really have no other choice.

Just my 2 cents.

https://twitter.com/j082298/status/1292433275462524929

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(08-10-2020 12:09 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 10:09 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  We have two COVID vaccines in round three clinicals. They could be ready for limited deployment as early as September. If the punt is to Spring then what they're really saying is "we want to buy time for a vaccine."

While I would love to see a vaccine ready for even limited deployment in September, that's just not gonna happen, IMO.

The round three human trials won't be over until sometime this fall. After that, they will need at least a couple of months to analyze the data from the tens of thousand of human volunteers. While the initial lab results appear to be promising, we won't really know the full efficacy or safety of these vaccines until we get these results. One thing I do know - having been around for the 1975 swine flu vaccine sh*tshow, they will not rush anything out to the public until they are sure it has some degree of efficacy and it is safe.

Given the time it is going to take to ramp up production, I don't think we be seeing any meaningful vaccination programs until late winter/ early spring, next year, at the earliest. Even then - I don't think there will be enough of a stock to vaccinate everyone who wants it. I would guess the priority will be (1) front line healthcare workers, (2) people will compromised health, (3) people over age 60, and then everyone else. Young healthy athletes will probably rank in the last category.

As we move into the fall/winter flu season, it is not unreasonable to assume that things might get a bit worse before getting better. I am not arguing for or against a fall sports season, but, IMO, thinking that CFB can be punted to the spring seems to me like wishful thinking at best, and magical thinking at worst.

Again, I am certainly not advocating for this, but if they cancel the fall sports season, I don't see how they can go forward with winter sports (BB and hockey, for example) that are played INDOORS. I think the spring will also be iffy.

The other alternative is to learn to live with this. If the vaccines are a bust, we will really have no other choice.

Just my 2 cents.

https://twitter.com/MiaMagdalena/status/...8626732032

MULTIPLE SHOTS ON GOAL

https://twitter.com/KKramzz/status/1292901058130444290

F*CK ‘EM WHO NEEDS ‘EM

(08-10-2020 01:43 PM)green Wrote:  

(08-10-2020 12:09 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 10:09 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  We have two COVID vaccines in round three clinicals. They could be ready for limited deployment as early as September. If the punt is to Spring then what they're really saying is "we want to buy time for a vaccine."

While I would love to see a vaccine ready for even limited deployment in September, that's just not gonna happen, IMO.

The round three human trials won't be over until sometime this fall. After that, they will need at least a couple of months to analyze the data from the tens of thousand of human volunteers. While the initial lab results appear to be promising, we won't really know the full efficacy or safety of these vaccines until we get these results. One thing I do know - having been around for the 1975 swine flu vaccine sh*tshow, they will not rush anything out to the public until they are sure it has some degree of efficacy and it is safe.

Given the time it is going to take to ramp up production, I don't think we be seeing any meaningful vaccination programs until late winter/ early spring, next year, at the earliest. Even then - I don't think there will be enough of a stock to vaccinate everyone who wants it. I would guess the priority will be (1) front line healthcare workers, (2) people will compromised health, (3) people over age 60, and then everyone else. Young healthy athletes will probably rank in the last category.

As we move into the fall/winter flu season, it is not unreasonable to assume that things might get a bit worse before getting better. I am not arguing for or against a fall sports season, but, IMO, thinking that CFB can be punted to the spring seems to me like wishful thinking at best, and magical thinking at worst.

Again, I am certainly not advocating for this, but if they cancel the fall sports season, I don't see how they can go forward with winter sports (BB and hockey, for example) that are played INDOORS. I think the spring will also be iffy.

The other alternative is to learn to live with this. If the vaccines are a bust, we will really have no other choice.

Just my 2 cents.

https://twitter.com/j082298/status/1292433275462524929

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Good article. Thanks for sharing; but I think it only confirms what I said above. Take a look at this excerpt from the article:

"There’s been speculation and “cautious optimism” from some health experts including Dr. Anthony Fauci of the National Institutes of Health that a vaccine’s safety and effectiveness could be known by U.S. regulators by early this winter, clearing the way for public use." [Emphasis mine.]

Or this point, made in the article:

“If we get to 50% and it’s not safe, it’s not a vaccine we can approve,” Hahn said. “It’s an absolute obligation that it be safe.”

Pretty much confirms everything I have said regarding the timeline:
1. A vaccine will not be made available to the public until they are certain that it meets established safety mandates.
2. A vaccine is unlikely to be cleared by regulators until early this winter, at the earliest.

In any event, my OP was primarily responding to the statement made by another poster that a vaccine "could be ready for limited deployment as early as September." The article you attached would appear to refute that as well.

As I said, I take no position on whether the CFB season should be cancelled. Frankly, I see reasons for both shutting it down as well as trying to get a season in. I am glad I do not have to make this decision.

(08-10-2020 12:09 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(08-09-2020 10:09 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  We have two COVID vaccines in round three clinicals. They could be ready for limited deployment as early as September. If the punt is to Spring then what they're really saying is "we want to buy time for a vaccine."

While I would love to see a vaccine ready for even limited deployment in September, that's just not gonna happen, IMO.

The round three human trials won't be over until sometime this fall. After that, they will need at least a couple of months to analyze the data from the tens of thousand of human volunteers. While the initial lab results appear to be promising, we won't really know the full efficacy or safety of these vaccines until we get these results. One thing I do know - having been around for the 1975 swine flu vaccine sh*tshow, they will not rush anything out to the public until they are sure it has some degree of efficacy and it is safe.

Given the time it is going to take to ramp up production, I don't think we be seeing any meaningful vaccination programs until late winter/ early spring, next year, at the earliest. Even then - I don't think there will be enough of a stock to vaccinate everyone who wants it. I would guess the priority will be (1) front line healthcare workers, (2) people will compromised health, (3) people over age 60, and then everyone else. Young healthy athletes will probably rank in the last category.

As we move into the fall/winter flu season, it is not unreasonable to assume that things might get a bit worse before getting better. I am not arguing for or against a fall sports season, but, IMO, thinking that CFB can be punted to the spring seems to me like wishful thinking at best, and magical thinking at worst.

Again, I am certainly not advocating for this, but if they cancel the fall sports season, I don't see how they can go forward with winter sports (BB and hockey, for example) that are played INDOORS. I think the spring will also be iffy.

The other alternative is to learn to live with this. If the vaccines are a bust, we will really have no other choice.

Just my 2 cents.

Latest on mass production mass availability for the US (think your local CVS offering it) is April.