(07-09-2020 02:43 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Just looking- Notre Dame has Wisconsin, but then 2 Pac 12 games.... Do they play 3 more ACC games now to give them 9? And then Navy, Arkansas, and Western Michigan.

Swofford just basically confirmed this if the ACC adopts a conference only format.


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(07-09-2020 02:52 PM)Pir8inRichmond Wrote:  So I assume they’re only playing a 9 game schedule? Or will they play 12 and it’s all within the conference?

How does the CFP evaluate a B10 team who only plays 9 games vs others who play 12?

So.many.questions.

There will be no CFP and no post-season, not for the B10 and any other conference that elects to go conference-only. It's better to move the season to spring and have a full season than do this modified crap.

boom-

I fear for ND, but I'd imagine they would be able to work something out. Navy will still be played for sure (and I'm sure Army/UConn/UMass could be possibly backfills, if absolutely necessary). I think the ACC could also give them a few extra too.

how about UConn? Lose Illinois, Virginia, Indiana, and North Carolina. They aren't playing at San Jose St almost guaranteed. If SEC goes conference only- loses Ole Miss. That's 6 games right there.

Dick Vitale with an interesting point-

I know he's meaning only this year, but still......

(07-09-2020 03:13 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I fear for ND, but I'd imagine they would be able to work something out. Navy will still be played for sure (and I'm sure Army/UConn/UMass could be possibly backfills, if absolutely necessary). I think the ACC could also give them a few extra too.

I wouldn't fear for ND at all. The ACC is smart enough that they will plug any holes for them. They're trying to play the long game with ND.

The other independents, however... they should be very afraid right now.

(07-09-2020 03:20 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:13 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I fear for ND, but I'd imagine they would be able to work something out. Navy will still be played for sure (and I'm sure Army/UConn/UMass could be possibly backfills, if absolutely necessary). I think the ACC could also give them a few extra too.

I wouldn't fear for ND at all. The ACC is smart enough that they will plug any holes for them. They're trying to play the long game with ND.

The other independents, however... they should be very afraid right now.

ND's loyalty to Navy arose because Navy helped ND start an ROTC program during WW2, thereby allowing them to continue playing football. Helping ND out now will create a permanent bond with the ACC.

(07-09-2020 03:19 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Dick Vitale with an interesting point-

I know he's meaning only this year, but still......

Long term, I think it's difficult because the scheduling philosophy for the Big Ten (and the SEC, for that matter) is that 7 home games per year has become a de facto requirement. With a 9-game conference schedule, that means that a team can only have 1 non-conference away from home every other year. So, it's already tough enough with that setup. A 10-game conference schedule would effectively eliminate the ability to play any non-conference games away from home entirely (which means you're not getting any non-conference games with other P5 schools at that point).

If they play a 12-game schedule, each school will not play 1 other conference school. What school would they not play? It would be a cross-divisional school not already on their schedule for this season. I'm sure there's other iterations but here's one:

Nebraska: Indiana
Iowa: Michigan
Minnesota: Penn St
Wisconsin: Rutgers
Illinois: Michigan St
Northwestern: Ohio St
Purdue: Maryland

(07-09-2020 03:20 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:13 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I fear for ND, but I'd imagine they would be able to work something out. Navy will still be played for sure (and I'm sure Army/UConn/UMass could be possibly backfills, if absolutely necessary). I think the ACC could also give them a few extra too.

I wouldn't fear for ND at all. The ACC is smart enough that they will plug any holes for them. They're trying to play the long game with ND.

The other independents, however... they should be very afraid right now.

There are enough Independent teams to cobble together a schedule with one another. Some may resort to a home/home series, but it'll work out. If this happened ten years ago, yikes.

The SEC/ACC is in a unique situation with so many in-state rivalries. I.e, conference only allows some control over testing, etc., but if limited travel is the other factor, then why not have 8 games + in state rivalry + championship.

I.e, why shouldn't Clemson/USC play. Why shouldn't KY/Louisville, FSU/Florida, GT/Georgia, play? Minimal travel, at least.

For the Big 10, at least let Iowa St play Iowa. Perhaps as an exhibition, doesn't count in the standings game.

(07-09-2020 03:31 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:20 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:13 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I fear for ND, but I'd imagine they would be able to work something out. Navy will still be played for sure (and I'm sure Army/UConn/UMass could be possibly backfills, if absolutely necessary). I think the ACC could also give them a few extra too.

I wouldn't fear for ND at all. The ACC is smart enough that they will plug any holes for them. They're trying to play the long game with ND.

The other independents, however... they should be very afraid right now.

There are enough Independent teams to cobble together a schedule with one another. Some may resort to a home/home series, but it'll work out. If this happened ten years ago, yikes.

the problem is a lot of them already had those teams on the schedule. And multiple FCS schools which will probably cancel as well....

(07-09-2020 03:33 PM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  The SEC/ACC is in a unique situation with so many in-state rivalries. I.e, conference only allows some control over testing, etc., but if limited travel is the other factor, then why not have 8 games + in state rivalry + championship.

I.e, why shouldn't Clemson/USC play. Why shouldn't KY/Louisville, FSU/Florida, GT/Georgia, play? Minimal travel, at least.

For the Big 10, at least let Iowa St play Iowa. Perhaps as an exhibition, doesn't count in the standings game.

I don't think that it's as much about travel as it is about flexibility and control for each conference.

If a league decides that it needs to postpone or cancel the season at any point, they have total control if there are only conference games.

(07-09-2020 03:33 PM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  The SEC/ACC is in a unique situation with so many in-state rivalries. I.e, conference only allows some control over testing, etc., but if limited travel is the other factor, then why not have 8 games + in state rivalry + championship.

I.e, why shouldn't Clemson/USC play. Why shouldn't KY/Louisville, FSU/Florida, GT/Georgia, play? Minimal travel, at least.

For the Big 10, at least let Iowa St play Iowa. Perhaps as an exhibition, doesn't count in the standings game.

Agree with the SEC-ACC rivalries. If the ACC allowed one OOC game, they could preserve those four rivalries and still provide ND up to ten opponents.

(07-09-2020 03:33 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:31 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:20 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:13 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I fear for ND, but I'd imagine they would be able to work something out. Navy will still be played for sure (and I'm sure Army/UConn/UMass could be possibly backfills, if absolutely necessary). I think the ACC could also give them a few extra too.

I wouldn't fear for ND at all. The ACC is smart enough that they will plug any holes for them. They're trying to play the long game with ND.

The other independents, however... they should be very afraid right now.

There are enough Independent teams to cobble together a schedule with one another. Some may resort to a home/home series, but it'll work out. If this happened ten years ago, yikes.

the problem is a lot of them already had those teams on the schedule. And multiple FCS schools which will probably cancel as well....

If a season happens at all this fall, which I have my doubts about, it was almost certainly happening with no or very few fans. Given that you're playing glorified scrimmages, if UConn plays a six-game schedule that's just in-season home-and-homes with UMass, Army, and Liberty.....so what?

(07-09-2020 03:38 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:33 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:31 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:20 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:13 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I fear for ND, but I'd imagine they would be able to work something out. Navy will still be played for sure (and I'm sure Army/UConn/UMass could be possibly backfills, if absolutely necessary). I think the ACC could also give them a few extra too.

I wouldn't fear for ND at all. The ACC is smart enough that they will plug any holes for them. They're trying to play the long game with ND.

The other independents, however... they should be very afraid right now.

There are enough Independent teams to cobble together a schedule with one another. Some may resort to a home/home series, but it'll work out. If this happened ten years ago, yikes.

the problem is a lot of them already had those teams on the schedule. And multiple FCS schools which will probably cancel as well....

If a season happens at all this fall, which I have my doubts about, it was almost certainly happening with no or very few fans. Given that you're playing glorified scrimmages, if UConn plays a six-game schedule that's just in-season home-and-homes with UMass, Army, and Liberty.....so what?

yeah maybe...

of course then things will turn towards basketball...

I think it's very possible the next college sports event we see is held in fall of 2021.