(06-24-2020 11:43 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Happy to see that about Michigan. I think Biden wins it easy, but maybe Gretchen got people thinking Trump.

https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/...9316829184

TRUE MEANING OF ZEN

(06-24-2020 12:14 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 09:05 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Wake up call for the Trump campaign

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/24/us/po...llege.html


Yes it's one poll, but go through all the demographics - Biden leads Trump by 36 points with college educated women. Hillary only had a 7 point advantage in 2016.


Unreal

I suspect this is almost 100% abortion issue driven. It's different now because the court could actually tip.

I think that number may be solid and hold up through election day.

There was an actual open seat for the Supreme Court in 2016, Trump released judges prior to Election Day - had no effect on women going 30+ points then...

(06-24-2020 12:14 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 09:05 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Wake up call for the Trump campaign

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/24/us/po...llege.html


Yes it's one poll, but go through all the demographics - Biden leads Trump by 36 points with college educated women. Hillary only had a 7 point advantage in 2016.


Unreal

I suspect this is almost 100% abortion issue driven. It's different now because the court could actually tip.

I think that number may be solid and hold up through election day.

I suspect it’s almost 100% bad methodology driven.

As stated above, if you didn’t see it in 2016 when a woman was actually running who thought abortion was a holy sacrament, an old white guy who has been around Washington DC since before Roe v. Wade isn’t going to ramp up that kind of fervor.

Sure right. Ok

People would never lie to a pollster.

I've been called twice. Told them to frick off.

(06-24-2020 11:09 AM)DtownBronco Wrote:  Firm who got it right in 2016 currently has Biden leading Trump by one point in Michigan, essentially a dead heat.

Quote:By Tom Bevan - RCP Staff
June 22, 2020
Pollster Who Got It Right in 2016: Michigan a Dead Heat
AP Photo/Carlos Osorio

In 2016, Robert Cahaly was the only pollster to show Donald Trump winning the state of Michigan. His final survey in the Wolverine State projected the Republican nominee beating Hillary Clinton by two percentage points. The final margin was just 0.3% -- an outcome that almost no one except Cahaly saw coming.

Cahaly’s polls in 2016 also showed Donald Trump winning Pennsylvania – again, he was nearly alone in projecting Trump’s narrow victory there – and thus taking the White House. Cahaly’s success continued in 2018, most conspicuously in Florida. He was one of the few pollsters whose data showed Ron DeSantis beating Andrew Gillum in the Florida gubernatorial race and Rick Scott besting incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson in the Senate race. Cahaly’s firm, the Trafalgar Group, has emerged from the last two political cycles as one of the most accurate polling operations in America.

In 2016, Robert Cahaly was the only pollster to show Donald Trump winning the state of Michigan. His final survey in the Wolverine State projected the Republican nominee beating Hillary Clinton by two percentage points. The final margin was just 0.3% -- an outcome that almost no one except Cahaly saw coming.

Cahaly’s polls in 2016 also showed Donald Trump winning Pennsylvania – again, he was nearly alone in projecting Trump’s narrow victory there – and thus taking the White House. Cahaly’s success continued in 2018, most conspicuously in Florida. He was one of the few pollsters whose data showed Ron DeSantis beating Andrew Gillum in the Florida gubernatorial race and Rick Scott besting incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson in the Senate race. Cahaly’s firm, the Trafalgar Group, has emerged from the last two political cycles as one of the most accurate polling operations in America.

So it’s notable that Cahaly has just released his first poll of the 2020 cycle, a survey of likely voters in Michigan showing Trump trailing Joe Biden by a single point, 46%-45%.

Last week Michigan-based pollster EPIC-MRA garnered national attention for its survey showing Biden leading by a whopping 16 points, while another survey by the firm TIPP (which has never polled the state before) showed Biden with a 13-point lead. Finally, a poll by the Democratic firm Change Research, published in conjunction with CNBC, showed Biden with just a two-point lead, 47%-45%.

Link

Don't you realize what that means?

The pollster that you're calling "most accurate" still has Trump losing in Michigan. This is despite Michigan's Democrat governor shutting down the economy. And then saying that tightly packed political protests don't pose an undue health risk, but soccer moms who take their kids to the playground will get fined.

That should not be reassuring to you, unless you're a Democrat.

(06-24-2020 09:05 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Wake up call for the Trump campaign

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/24/us/po...llege.html


Yes it's one poll, but go through all the demographics - Biden leads Trump by 36 points with college educated women. Hillary only had a 7 point advantage in 2016.


Unreal

But it’s not one poll... it’s following a 2-3 week trend of polls showing Biden steadily increasing his lead over Trump.

The percentage of White college educated women that choose Biden over Trump just happens to be the same percentage that have never had an orgasm in the presence of a man to the number that have.

(06-24-2020 01:10 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 09:05 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  Wake up call for the Trump campaign

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/24/us/po...llege.html


Yes it's one poll, but go through all the demographics - Biden leads Trump by 36 points with college educated women. Hillary only had a 7 point advantage in 2016.


Unreal

But it’s not one poll... it’s following a 2-3 week trend of polls showing Biden steadily increasing his lead over Trump.

.....In June....With the Hidin' Biden Campaign in full swing. The reality? The real race hasnt even begun. When people begin to seriously pay attention and Biden's bizarre behaviors and inability to form coherent thoughts actually comes under scrutiny, its over.

(06-24-2020 01:01 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 11:09 AM)DtownBronco Wrote:  Firm who got it right in 2016 currently has Biden leading Trump by one point in Michigan, essentially a dead heat.

Quote:By Tom Bevan - RCP Staff
June 22, 2020
Pollster Who Got It Right in 2016: Michigan a Dead Heat
AP Photo/Carlos Osorio

In 2016, Robert Cahaly was the only pollster to show Donald Trump winning the state of Michigan. His final survey in the Wolverine State projected the Republican nominee beating Hillary Clinton by two percentage points. The final margin was just 0.3% -- an outcome that almost no one except Cahaly saw coming.

Cahaly’s polls in 2016 also showed Donald Trump winning Pennsylvania – again, he was nearly alone in projecting Trump’s narrow victory there – and thus taking the White House. Cahaly’s success continued in 2018, most conspicuously in Florida. He was one of the few pollsters whose data showed Ron DeSantis beating Andrew Gillum in the Florida gubernatorial race and Rick Scott besting incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson in the Senate race. Cahaly’s firm, the Trafalgar Group, has emerged from the last two political cycles as one of the most accurate polling operations in America.

In 2016, Robert Cahaly was the only pollster to show Donald Trump winning the state of Michigan. His final survey in the Wolverine State projected the Republican nominee beating Hillary Clinton by two percentage points. The final margin was just 0.3% -- an outcome that almost no one except Cahaly saw coming.

Cahaly’s polls in 2016 also showed Donald Trump winning Pennsylvania – again, he was nearly alone in projecting Trump’s narrow victory there – and thus taking the White House. Cahaly’s success continued in 2018, most conspicuously in Florida. He was one of the few pollsters whose data showed Ron DeSantis beating Andrew Gillum in the Florida gubernatorial race and Rick Scott besting incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson in the Senate race. Cahaly’s firm, the Trafalgar Group, has emerged from the last two political cycles as one of the most accurate polling operations in America.

So it’s notable that Cahaly has just released his first poll of the 2020 cycle, a survey of likely voters in Michigan showing Trump trailing Joe Biden by a single point, 46%-45%.

Last week Michigan-based pollster EPIC-MRA garnered national attention for its survey showing Biden leading by a whopping 16 points, while another survey by the firm TIPP (which has never polled the state before) showed Biden with a 13-point lead. Finally, a poll by the Democratic firm Change Research, published in conjunction with CNBC, showed Biden with just a two-point lead, 47%-45%.

Link

Don't you realize what that means?

The pollster that you're calling "most accurate" still has Trump losing in Michigan. This is despite Michigan's Democrat governor shutting down the economy. And then saying that tightly packed political protests don't pose an undue health risk, but soccer moms who take their kids to the playground will get fined.

That should not be reassuring to you, unless you're a Democrat.

What it means is we have not even gotten to the conventions yet.

(06-24-2020 09:21 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  I love how triggered conservatives are by "Bunker Boy" Trump that they're trying to make "Basement Biden" a thing. Both are super cringe but the basement **** is kind of worse since its retalitatory.

Personally I like Diamond and Silk's time speaking to the crowd at the rally in Oklahoma last week where they referred to Biden as "Jim Crow Joe". Uh-Ha, That's Right!!!

(06-24-2020 12:48 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Sure right. Ok

People would never lie to a pollster.

I've been called twice. Told them to frick off.

I love calls from pollsters! It gives me a chance to work on certain of my accents. My eastern European accent is excellent and my Nigerian accent is improving.

(06-24-2020 01:50 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 01:01 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 11:09 AM)DtownBronco Wrote:  Firm who got it right in 2016 currently has Biden leading Trump by one point in Michigan, essentially a dead heat.

Quote:By Tom Bevan - RCP Staff
June 22, 2020
Pollster Who Got It Right in 2016: Michigan a Dead Heat
AP Photo/Carlos Osorio

In 2016, Robert Cahaly was the only pollster to show Donald Trump winning the state of Michigan. His final survey in the Wolverine State projected the Republican nominee beating Hillary Clinton by two percentage points. The final margin was just 0.3% -- an outcome that almost no one except Cahaly saw coming.

Cahaly’s polls in 2016 also showed Donald Trump winning Pennsylvania – again, he was nearly alone in projecting Trump’s narrow victory there – and thus taking the White House. Cahaly’s success continued in 2018, most conspicuously in Florida. He was one of the few pollsters whose data showed Ron DeSantis beating Andrew Gillum in the Florida gubernatorial race and Rick Scott besting incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson in the Senate race. Cahaly’s firm, the Trafalgar Group, has emerged from the last two political cycles as one of the most accurate polling operations in America.

In 2016, Robert Cahaly was the only pollster to show Donald Trump winning the state of Michigan. His final survey in the Wolverine State projected the Republican nominee beating Hillary Clinton by two percentage points. The final margin was just 0.3% -- an outcome that almost no one except Cahaly saw coming.

Cahaly’s polls in 2016 also showed Donald Trump winning Pennsylvania – again, he was nearly alone in projecting Trump’s narrow victory there – and thus taking the White House. Cahaly’s success continued in 2018, most conspicuously in Florida. He was one of the few pollsters whose data showed Ron DeSantis beating Andrew Gillum in the Florida gubernatorial race and Rick Scott besting incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson in the Senate race. Cahaly’s firm, the Trafalgar Group, has emerged from the last two political cycles as one of the most accurate polling operations in America.

So it’s notable that Cahaly has just released his first poll of the 2020 cycle, a survey of likely voters in Michigan showing Trump trailing Joe Biden by a single point, 46%-45%.

Last week Michigan-based pollster EPIC-MRA garnered national attention for its survey showing Biden leading by a whopping 16 points, while another survey by the firm TIPP (which has never polled the state before) showed Biden with a 13-point lead. Finally, a poll by the Democratic firm Change Research, published in conjunction with CNBC, showed Biden with just a two-point lead, 47%-45%.

Link

Don't you realize what that means?

The pollster that you're calling "most accurate" still has Trump losing in Michigan. This is despite Michigan's Democrat governor shutting down the economy. And then saying that tightly packed political protests don't pose an undue health risk, but soccer moms who take their kids to the playground will get fined.

That should not be reassuring to you, unless you're a Democrat.

What it means is we have not even gotten to the conventions yet.

The conventions will be when each party's vision for the U.S. is expressed.

I like Trump's chances after a hellish future is proclaimed by the Imps of the Democratic Party.

(06-24-2020 01:59 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 01:50 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 01:01 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 11:09 AM)DtownBronco Wrote:  Firm who got it right in 2016 currently has Biden leading Trump by one point in Michigan, essentially a dead heat.

Quote:By Tom Bevan - RCP Staff
June 22, 2020
Pollster Who Got It Right in 2016: Michigan a Dead Heat
AP Photo/Carlos Osorio

In 2016, Robert Cahaly was the only pollster to show Donald Trump winning the state of Michigan. His final survey in the Wolverine State projected the Republican nominee beating Hillary Clinton by two percentage points. The final margin was just 0.3% -- an outcome that almost no one except Cahaly saw coming.

Cahaly’s polls in 2016 also showed Donald Trump winning Pennsylvania – again, he was nearly alone in projecting Trump’s narrow victory there – and thus taking the White House. Cahaly’s success continued in 2018, most conspicuously in Florida. He was one of the few pollsters whose data showed Ron DeSantis beating Andrew Gillum in the Florida gubernatorial race and Rick Scott besting incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson in the Senate race. Cahaly’s firm, the Trafalgar Group, has emerged from the last two political cycles as one of the most accurate polling operations in America.

In 2016, Robert Cahaly was the only pollster to show Donald Trump winning the state of Michigan. His final survey in the Wolverine State projected the Republican nominee beating Hillary Clinton by two percentage points. The final margin was just 0.3% -- an outcome that almost no one except Cahaly saw coming.

Cahaly’s polls in 2016 also showed Donald Trump winning Pennsylvania – again, he was nearly alone in projecting Trump’s narrow victory there – and thus taking the White House. Cahaly’s success continued in 2018, most conspicuously in Florida. He was one of the few pollsters whose data showed Ron DeSantis beating Andrew Gillum in the Florida gubernatorial race and Rick Scott besting incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson in the Senate race. Cahaly’s firm, the Trafalgar Group, has emerged from the last two political cycles as one of the most accurate polling operations in America.

So it’s notable that Cahaly has just released his first poll of the 2020 cycle, a survey of likely voters in Michigan showing Trump trailing Joe Biden by a single point, 46%-45%.

Last week Michigan-based pollster EPIC-MRA garnered national attention for its survey showing Biden leading by a whopping 16 points, while another survey by the firm TIPP (which has never polled the state before) showed Biden with a 13-point lead. Finally, a poll by the Democratic firm Change Research, published in conjunction with CNBC, showed Biden with just a two-point lead, 47%-45%.

Link

Don't you realize what that means?

The pollster that you're calling "most accurate" still has Trump losing in Michigan. This is despite Michigan's Democrat governor shutting down the economy. And then saying that tightly packed political protests don't pose an undue health risk, but soccer moms who take their kids to the playground will get fined.

That should not be reassuring to you, unless you're a Democrat.

What it means is we have not even gotten to the conventions yet.

The conventions will be when each party's vision for the U.S. is expressed.

I like Trump's chances after a hellish future is proclaimed by the Imps of the Democratic Party.

Joe: I picture a world that is not like this world. No Trump. All hairy legs.. Popcorn all around. And purple elephants! Together we can beat Joe Biden!!

(06-24-2020 01:01 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 11:09 AM)DtownBronco Wrote:  Firm who got it right in 2016 currently has Biden leading Trump by one point in Michigan, essentially a dead heat.

Quote:By Tom Bevan - RCP Staff
June 22, 2020
Pollster Who Got It Right in 2016: Michigan a Dead Heat
AP Photo/Carlos Osorio

In 2016, Robert Cahaly was the only pollster to show Donald Trump winning the state of Michigan. His final survey in the Wolverine State projected the Republican nominee beating Hillary Clinton by two percentage points. The final margin was just 0.3% -- an outcome that almost no one except Cahaly saw coming.

Cahaly’s polls in 2016 also showed Donald Trump winning Pennsylvania – again, he was nearly alone in projecting Trump’s narrow victory there – and thus taking the White House. Cahaly’s success continued in 2018, most conspicuously in Florida. He was one of the few pollsters whose data showed Ron DeSantis beating Andrew Gillum in the Florida gubernatorial race and Rick Scott besting incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson in the Senate race. Cahaly’s firm, the Trafalgar Group, has emerged from the last two political cycles as one of the most accurate polling operations in America.

In 2016, Robert Cahaly was the only pollster to show Donald Trump winning the state of Michigan. His final survey in the Wolverine State projected the Republican nominee beating Hillary Clinton by two percentage points. The final margin was just 0.3% -- an outcome that almost no one except Cahaly saw coming.

Cahaly’s polls in 2016 also showed Donald Trump winning Pennsylvania – again, he was nearly alone in projecting Trump’s narrow victory there – and thus taking the White House. Cahaly’s success continued in 2018, most conspicuously in Florida. He was one of the few pollsters whose data showed Ron DeSantis beating Andrew Gillum in the Florida gubernatorial race and Rick Scott besting incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson in the Senate race. Cahaly’s firm, the Trafalgar Group, has emerged from the last two political cycles as one of the most accurate polling operations in America.

So it’s notable that Cahaly has just released his first poll of the 2020 cycle, a survey of likely voters in Michigan showing Trump trailing Joe Biden by a single point, 46%-45%.

Last week Michigan-based pollster EPIC-MRA garnered national attention for its survey showing Biden leading by a whopping 16 points, while another survey by the firm TIPP (which has never polled the state before) showed Biden with a 13-point lead. Finally, a poll by the Democratic firm Change Research, published in conjunction with CNBC, showed Biden with just a two-point lead, 47%-45%.

Link

Don't you realize what that means?

The pollster that you're calling "most accurate" still has Trump losing in Michigan. This is despite Michigan's Democrat governor shutting down the economy. And then saying that tightly packed political protests don't pose an undue health risk, but soccer moms who take their kids to the playground will get fined.

That should not be reassuring to you, unless you're a Democrat.

I do. And I agree this is deeply concerning! Intent was to point out two things:

1. The inaccuracy of the NYT poll as well as many others
2. The Trump campaign has some work to do in MI, a historically Blue state that in recent years has turned purple but ultimately went for DJT in 2016. Taking the Cahaly poll at face value would predict that Trump would lose by more than a point if the election were held today.

Regarding the economic shutdown, in my mostly conservative circles, the sentiment about big Gretch has been mostly meh. None of us like the fact that so many confusing EOs were issued and our civil liberties were infringed upon, however most would agree that Michigan's handling of the plandemic has been slightly above average, but not great. The hypocrisy of the bashing of the organized march on the state capital by the folks opposed to the shutdown vs. the lauding of the BLM protests has been maddening but the economic impact may not be as dire initially thought. For those of us with salaried jobs, it was a relatively simple adjustment of working from home more as many companies have been moving toward a home/office blend in recent years and for the hourly workers among us, the state unemployment and augmented federal funds have made it economically feasible to get through the shutdown. It's hard to see how either the Dem's and/or Trump look like a bad actor in how this scenario played out.

The president's margin of victory was 0.3% in 2016 and it appears the race is going to be as close since recent events don't seem to be swaying people one way or the other. In 2020, if Michigan is going to be a crucial swing state again the GOP has step up their effort here.

(06-24-2020 02:21 PM)DtownBronco Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 01:01 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-24-2020 11:09 AM)DtownBronco Wrote:  Firm who got it right in 2016 currently has Biden leading Trump by one point in Michigan, essentially a dead heat.

Quote:By Tom Bevan - RCP Staff
June 22, 2020
Pollster Who Got It Right in 2016: Michigan a Dead Heat
AP Photo/Carlos Osorio

In 2016, Robert Cahaly was the only pollster to show Donald Trump winning the state of Michigan. His final survey in the Wolverine State projected the Republican nominee beating Hillary Clinton by two percentage points. The final margin was just 0.3% -- an outcome that almost no one except Cahaly saw coming.

Cahaly’s polls in 2016 also showed Donald Trump winning Pennsylvania – again, he was nearly alone in projecting Trump’s narrow victory there – and thus taking the White House. Cahaly’s success continued in 2018, most conspicuously in Florida. He was one of the few pollsters whose data showed Ron DeSantis beating Andrew Gillum in the Florida gubernatorial race and Rick Scott besting incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson in the Senate race. Cahaly’s firm, the Trafalgar Group, has emerged from the last two political cycles as one of the most accurate polling operations in America.

In 2016, Robert Cahaly was the only pollster to show Donald Trump winning the state of Michigan. His final survey in the Wolverine State projected the Republican nominee beating Hillary Clinton by two percentage points. The final margin was just 0.3% -- an outcome that almost no one except Cahaly saw coming.

Cahaly’s polls in 2016 also showed Donald Trump winning Pennsylvania – again, he was nearly alone in projecting Trump’s narrow victory there – and thus taking the White House. Cahaly’s success continued in 2018, most conspicuously in Florida. He was one of the few pollsters whose data showed Ron DeSantis beating Andrew Gillum in the Florida gubernatorial race and Rick Scott besting incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson in the Senate race. Cahaly’s firm, the Trafalgar Group, has emerged from the last two political cycles as one of the most accurate polling operations in America.

So it’s notable that Cahaly has just released his first poll of the 2020 cycle, a survey of likely voters in Michigan showing Trump trailing Joe Biden by a single point, 46%-45%.

Last week Michigan-based pollster EPIC-MRA garnered national attention for its survey showing Biden leading by a whopping 16 points, while another survey by the firm TIPP (which has never polled the state before) showed Biden with a 13-point lead. Finally, a poll by the Democratic firm Change Research, published in conjunction with CNBC, showed Biden with just a two-point lead, 47%-45%.

Link

Don't you realize what that means?

The pollster that you're calling "most accurate" still has Trump losing in Michigan. This is despite Michigan's Democrat governor shutting down the economy. And then saying that tightly packed political protests don't pose an undue health risk, but soccer moms who take their kids to the playground will get fined.

That should not be reassuring to you, unless you're a Democrat.

I do. And I agree this is deeply concerning! Intent was to point out two things:

1. The inaccuracy of the NYT poll as well as many others
2. The Trump campaign has some work to do in MI, a historically Blue state that in recent years has turned purple but ultimately went for DJT in 2016. Taking the Cahaly poll at face value would predict that Trump would lose by more than a point if the election were held today.

Regarding the economic shutdown, in my mostly conservative circles, the sentiment about big Gretch has been mostly meh. None of us like the fact that so many confusing EOs were issued and our civil liberties were impinged up, however most would agree that Michigan's handling of the plandemic has been slightly above average, but not great. The hypocrisy of the bashing of the organized march on the state capital by the folks opposed to the shutdown vs. the lauding of the BLM protests has been maddening but the economic impact may not be as dire initially thought. For those of us with salaried jobs, it was a relatively simple adjustment of working from home more as many companies have been moving toward a home/office blend in recent years and for the hourly workers among us, the state unemployment and augmented federal funds have made it economically feasible to get through the shutdown. It's hard to see how either the Dem's and/or Trump look like a bad actor in how this scenario played out.

The president's margin of victory was 0.3% in 2016 and it appears the race is going to be as close since recent events don't seem to be swaying people one way or the other. In 2020, if Michigan is going to be a crucial swing state again the GOP has step up their effort here.

I think a sizable majority of those able to go back to work before COVID will show up to vote for Trump. I also suspect those people are not considered likely to vote and do not show up in the polling. But they will vote. They know.

I have really hard time seeing Trump losing his base. Anyone who's saying they're turned off by all his Tweeting or other 'un-presidential acts' likely didn't vote for him in the first place IMO.

The question is - will people show up for Biden, especially those who stayed home for Hilary in 2016?

Keep calling Trump behind in a big way. People gotta turn out. I hope they blast this everyday.

(06-24-2020 10:01 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Keep calling Trump behind in a big way. People gotta turn out. I hope they blast this everyday.

Biden's winning every poll by 10 points

(06-24-2020 09:39 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I have really hard time seeing Trump losing his base. Anyone who's saying they're turned off by all his Tweeting or other 'un-presidential acts' likely didn't vote for him in the first place IMO.

The question is - will people show up for Biden, especially those who stayed home for Hilary in 2016?

He’s losing suburban women in droves... which should be no surprise because they turned on him early.

I can assure you... Democrats are very motivated to unseat Donald Trump.

I read a good line on politico or realclearpolitics today (forget which?):

No one is that gung ho to vote for Biden.

But a **** ton of people are excited to vote against Trump.

I would say that vibe is very different vs. 2016 where I feel like it was kind of the opposite. Shrug. We'll see.