(06-01-2020 10:32 PM)VCE Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 10:18 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 10:13 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 09:10 PM)VCE Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 09:06 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  That’s fair. Probably a false equivalency. But still, the optics look pretty bad when you are turning your military on a population of your citizens.

Most people who’s minds could actually be swayed in the election are sitting at home watching the protests from afar. It’s not going to look good on TV seeing military rolling in and using force on Americans.

Just my opinion and I’m speaking strictly politically, and I would assume his advisors are saying the same thing.

Really? In a population that has accepted three months of BS lockdown, you think people will have a problem with this?

None of this makes sense. A week ago these same mayors were all for arresting women for cutting hair or not wearing a mask. Now. The same mayors are ok with burning police stations and looting business’s. These idiot mayors are simply bereft of common sense.

Or they're complicit.

Of course they are.

I’ll take $5 on complicit....

(06-01-2020 07:24 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 07:16 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Unsure he can use the military but I'll let one of the lawyers on here tell me.

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It's basically over. There's nothing for them to do anyway. He just wants to sound tough to his bootlickers.

I'll bite.

Whats bacillary over? The YOe campaign? I'd generally agree with that!

(06-01-2020 10:57 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 07:24 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 07:16 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Unsure he can use the military but I'll let one of the lawyers on here tell me.

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It's basically over. There's nothing for them to do anyway. He just wants to sound tough to his bootlickers.

I'll bite.

Whats bacillary over? The YOe campaign? I'd generally agree with that!

Speaking of Sloe, has he told everyone how this should have been handled yet? Bet he says fire hoses would be very effective.

(06-01-2020 11:08 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 10:57 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 07:24 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 07:16 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Unsure he can use the military but I'll let one of the lawyers on here tell me.

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It's basically over. There's nothing for them to do anyway. He just wants to sound tough to his bootlickers.

I'll bite.

Whats bacillary over? The YOe campaign? I'd generally agree with that!

Speaking of Sloe, has he told everyone how this should have been handled yet? Bet he says fire hoses would be very effective.

Hey, he warned us about busing and ethnic jungles.

(06-01-2020 07:30 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  Although there is the Posse Comitatus Act disallowing the use of the US military to enforce domestic policies there is the Insurrection Act.

"The Insurrection Act is brief. It allows the president, at the request of a state government, to federalize the National Guard and to use the remainder of the Armed Forces to suppress an insurrection against that state's government. It further allows for the president to do the same in a state without the explicit consent of a state's government if it becomes impracticable to enforce federal laws through ordinary proceedings or if states are unable to safeguard its inhabitants' civil rights."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrecti...rebellion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

Is that what is happening?

Lmao I’ve read enough. All of a sudden the “small govt” people want a strong federal government. It’s cute you guys think you believe a certain way yet forget that when it’s convenient. Have some courage and stand up for something. You guys make us “liberals” look bad. Have some ******* beliefs and stand by them at some point.

(06-02-2020 01:33 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  Lmao I’ve read enough. All of a sudden the “small govt” people want a strong federal government. It’s cute you guys think you believe a certain way yet forget that when it’s convenient. Have some courage and stand up for something. You guys make us “liberals” look bad. Have some ******* beliefs and stand by them at some point.

Well, when the police are too busy arresting hair dressers and folks that refuse to wear masks to deal with looters and arsonist---a little help might be called for. Its odd how tough those big bad azz Leftie mayors looked when they were dealing with hair dressers. Put a dozen guys dressed in all black in a park and those same mayors order their entire police force to shelter in place while telling their citizens---"Your on your own baby!!". lol...the homeless guy on the corner has more guts.

(06-02-2020 02:33 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 01:33 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  Lmao I’ve read enough. All of a sudden the “small govt” people want a strong federal government. It’s cute you guys think you believe a certain way yet forget that when it’s convenient. Have some courage and stand up for something. You guys make us “liberals” look bad. Have some ******* beliefs and stand by them at some point.

Well, when the police are too busy arresting hair dressers and folks that refuse to wear masks to deal with looters and arsonist---a little help might be called for. Its odd how tough those big bad azz Leftie mayors looked when they were dealing with hair dressers. Put a dozen guys dressed in all black in a park and those same mayors order their entire police force to shelter in place while telling their citizens---"Your on your own baby!!". lol...the homeless guy on the corner has more guts.

Straw man is strong

(06-02-2020 01:33 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  Lmao I’ve read enough. All of a sudden the “small govt” people want a strong federal government. It’s cute you guys think you believe a certain way yet forget that when it’s convenient. Have some courage and stand up for something. You guys make us “liberals” look bad. Have some ******* beliefs and stand by them at some point.

Current events have nothing to do with the size of the federal government and our desire to see the federales stepping in to do the job state and local governments won't is a rational one.

It's telling that you accuse us of hypocrisy and erecting strawmen while never once taking a position on these events of the past week. Alinsky would be proud of you.

RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”

RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

A liberal acusing someone else of being a hypocrite defines irony.

Using the "big government" argument about trying to control these riots, caused and perpetrated by far-left nut jobs, is beyond conveniently ironic.

(06-02-2020 01:33 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  Lmao I’ve read enough. All of a sudden the “small govt” people want a strong federal government. It’s cute you guys think you believe a certain way yet forget that when it’s convenient. Have some courage and stand up for something. You guys make us “liberals” look bad. Have some ******* beliefs and stand by them at some point.

I see lots of posts in this thread hoping the President does not take that action.

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(06-02-2020 06:42 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 01:33 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  Lmao I’ve read enough. All of a sudden the “small govt” people want a strong federal government. It’s cute you guys think you believe a certain way yet forget that when it’s convenient. Have some courage and stand up for something. You guys make us “liberals” look bad. Have some ******* beliefs and stand by them at some point.

I see lots of posts in this thread hoping the President does not take that action.

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He kind of already did this. He had the police clear church workers from their grounds so he could stage that pathetic photo op...then he had military helicopters buzzing protesters last night.

Yes but DC is Trump's jurisdiction

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(06-01-2020 08:51 PM)stxrunner Wrote:  The optics on this won’t look good. Sounds strong in theory, but the last time this happened, it was Bush Sr and he was a one term president.

I’m assuming he’s just posturing, because it would be political suicide to do actually do this. It would look so bad it would turn a lot of people off.

Right, because just letting rioters burn our cities to the ground is going to get him reelected.

What is wrong with you people?

Did he not take an oath to protect the people of this nation?

So half of the states have been cheered by the left for being under a silly version of martial law for a couple months to keep people from potentially getting sick but now they are freaking out when the boogeyman may legally send in troops to keep people safe from assault and having their homes and businesses destroyed by criminal looters and thugs. Seems sane.

(06-02-2020 06:46 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Yes but DC is Trump's jurisdiction

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All the more reason they need statehood.

(06-02-2020 06:42 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 01:33 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  Lmao I’ve read enough. All of a sudden the “small govt” people want a strong federal government. It’s cute you guys think you believe a certain way yet forget that when it’s convenient. Have some courage and stand up for something. You guys make us “liberals” look bad. Have some ******* beliefs and stand by them at some point.

I see lots of posts in this thread hoping the President does not take that action.

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Yeah. I saw one of them screaming on a corner in one of these post “stop it! You’re all gonna get Trump re-elected!”

(06-02-2020 01:33 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  Lmao I’ve read enough. All of a sudden the “small govt” people want a strong federal government. It’s cute you guys think you believe a certain way yet forget that when it’s convenient. Have some courage and stand up for something. You guys make us “liberals” look bad. Have some ******* beliefs and stand by them at some point.

Get out of here with that dishonest trash.

You may play an idiot on the internet but I suspect you are not this stupid.

We have cities all across the nation being looted and burned, store owners both black and white being beaten senseless in the streets trying to protect their businesses.

The POTUS takes an oath to protect the people of this country. Its his responsibility to put these insurrection and rioters down and protect the good people of these communities.

I suspect he is like the ESPN writer. It’s all good to him because they haven’t made it to his street yet. Let them come and he screams like a baby for Trump to do something.

(06-02-2020 07:04 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  I suspect he is like the ESPN writer. It’s all good to him because they haven’t made it to his street yet. Let them come and he screams like a baby for Trump to do something.

Yep cause his kind of people have no means to defend themselves. It's all fun and games till some gang banger starts punching him in the face.