Quote:Since the media-whipped-frenzy surrounding Covid-19 took over the news, an increasing number of doctors are openly stating their disagreements with the recommendations of the government’s experts, Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx. The problem? Many of these on-the-front-line medical professionals are being ignored or mocked. Some medical professionals are even seeing their videos removed from social media platforms. The reason? Their views don’t align with the prevailing narrative of the media and what I’ll call the globalist medical establishment.

Among the topics that need to be addressed when pushing back on the globalist medical establishment and their willing accomplices in the legacy media are the use of hydroxychloroquine, the negative impact of stay-home orders, and the change of focus from ‘flatten the curve’ to ‘don’t spread the disease.’

In this first installment on medical misinformation we’ll focus on the use of hydroxychloroquine.

Quote:In New York, a doctor by the name of Vladimir Zelenko has been on the front lines of the Covid-19 epidemic. Zelenko is a general practitioner in a place where 35,000 people live in one square mile. During an interview with Breitbart’s Steve Bannon on the Bannon War Room, Zelenko said, “Basically, the whole focus of the world up to this point has been to build more respirators. There’s been zero emphasis on how to have a clinical intervention.”

Zelenko said the standard protocol has been doctors telling their Covid-19 patients to go home, pray, drink fluids and take Tylenol. Then, if it gets too bad, “Go to the hospital and get intubated, and you have a 50 percent chance – or more – of dying.”

Clearly frustrated with Anthony Fauci saying we need to do a study (on the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine), Zelenko said, “Imagine Washington DC was being carpet-bombed. Would it make sense for Dr. Fauci to say, ‘I think we need to do a study to see which bullets work the best. It may take four months, but we need to study it.’ Or, would he use any bullet available to knock the planes out of the sky? We are being carpet-bombed by an invisible enemy. To wait four months – and let a few hundred thousand people die unnecessarily – I think is a crime against humanity.”

To a few of you here that have smeared the use of hydroxychloroquine, there is info in here that you likely have not seen or heard.

Quote:On April 7, NBC News published a fearmongering piece titled, Mayo Clinic cardiologist: ‘Inexcusable’ to ignore hydroxychloroquine side effects.

(Side note: I found it interesting that the article was not published in their “coronavirus” section, but rather the “nbcnews.com” >> “politics” >> “donald-trump” section of their website.)

The article cited a small, not-yet-peer-reviewed study that came out on April 3, a few days before the article was published, calling attention to a potential risk for cardiac side effects in a small percentage of the population.

When Dr. Zelenko heard about this, he went to cardiologists who specialize in the electrical systems of the heart. He said the three electrophysiologists had more than 100 years of combined experience in their specialty, and none of them had ever seen a complication from hydroxychloroquine.

In other words, let's throw all the objections that we can dream up and cite a few poorly done 'studies' out there in order to create an impression with the public. Bad man orange and all that.

Quote:As many doctors are saying in interviews and in publications everywhere, this is the first time they’ve seen a drug that has a political party.

Read the complete article here.

I truly believe that TDS has rewired and fried their brains.

Follow the money. You know, like they were trying to do with Trump. A vaccine will make people rich, let's see Where our expert, trusted, doctor ends up working in 12 months.

For anyone with half a brain, you know, like Gov.Witless's, it's logical that the MSM would downplay a cure for a virus knowing how badly these people want Trump's emergency actions to fail. We have a product, Hydroxychloroquine, that has been used for decades safely for malaria. Of course, there are medicines that can have adverse effects on SOME people but that's a given. How many times do we hear commercials about medicines that cure this or that and then they start telling us what adverse effects they might have? It's a given, all medicines might react differently on different people. I can't take aspirin for instance, so should millions of people not take aspirin because it's side effects are detrimental to me? Of course not, that would be stupid.

There are conspiracy theorists that say that Dr. Fauci has a motive for downplaying Hydrox. because he is in cahoots with Big Pharma. It seems to me he doesn't seem genuinely interested in stopping this virus. He looks to like the villain wringing his hands in anticipation of a payback of some sort, perhaps politically, perhaps monetarily, perhaps globally by a Soros-like action.

I tend to agree with this thought because why would someone try to stop a potential cure by asking vehemently for more tests when the medicine has been used for such a long time. It's like telling people not to fly because one airplane went down when there have been thousands of hours flown every day by others.

(05-01-2020 03:37 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I tend to agree with this thought because why would someone try to stop a potential cure by asking vehemently for more tests when the medicine has been used for such a long time.

Because Orange Man Bad.

(05-01-2020 01:42 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

Quote:Since the media-whipped-frenzy surrounding Covid-19 took over the news, an increasing number of doctors are openly stating their disagreements with the recommendations of the government’s experts, Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx. The problem? Many of these on-the-front-line medical professionals are being ignored or mocked. Some medical professionals are even seeing their videos removed from social media platforms. The reason? Their views don’t align with the prevailing narrative of the media and what I’ll call the globalist medical establishment.

Among the topics that need to be addressed when pushing back on the globalist medical establishment and their willing accomplices in the legacy media are the use of hydroxychloroquine, the negative impact of stay-home orders, and the change of focus from ‘flatten the curve’ to ‘don’t spread the disease.’

In this first installment on medical misinformation we’ll focus on the use of hydroxychloroquine.

Quote:In New York, a doctor by the name of Vladimir Zelenko has been on the front lines of the Covid-19 epidemic. Zelenko is a general practitioner in a place where 35,000 people live in one square mile. During an interview with Breitbart’s Steve Bannon on the Bannon War Room, Zelenko said, “Basically, the whole focus of the world up to this point has been to build more respirators. There’s been zero emphasis on how to have a clinical intervention.”

Zelenko said the standard protocol has been doctors telling their Covid-19 patients to go home, pray, drink fluids and take Tylenol. Then, if it gets too bad, “Go to the hospital and get intubated, and you have a 50 percent chance – or more – of dying.”

Clearly frustrated with Anthony Fauci saying we need to do a study (on the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine), Zelenko said, “Imagine Washington DC was being carpet-bombed. Would it make sense for Dr. Fauci to say, ‘I think we need to do a study to see which bullets work the best. It may take four months, but we need to study it.’ Or, would he use any bullet available to knock the planes out of the sky? We are being carpet-bombed by an invisible enemy. To wait four months – and let a few hundred thousand people die unnecessarily – I think is a crime against humanity.”

To a few of you here that have smeared the use of hydroxychloroquine, there is info in here that you likely have not seen or heard.

Quote:On April 7, NBC News published a fearmongering piece titled, Mayo Clinic cardiologist: ‘Inexcusable’ to ignore hydroxychloroquine side effects.

(Side note: I found it interesting that the article was not published in their “coronavirus” section, but rather the “nbcnews.com” >> “politics” >> “donald-trump” section of their website.)

The article cited a small, not-yet-peer-reviewed study that came out on April 3, a few days before the article was published, calling attention to a potential risk for cardiac side effects in a small percentage of the population.

When Dr. Zelenko heard about this, he went to cardiologists who specialize in the electrical systems of the heart. He said the three electrophysiologists had more than 100 years of combined experience in their specialty, and none of them had ever seen a complication from hydroxychloroquine.

In other words, let's throw all the objections that we can dream up and cite a few poorly done 'studies' out there in order to create an impression with the public. Bad man orange and all that.

Quote:As many doctors are saying in interviews and in publications everywhere, this is the first time they’ve seen a drug that has a political party.

Read the complete article here.

I've read and listened (and occasionally posted) to a LOT of Dr Zalenko since this thing first hit the scene and he's had a remarkable track record thus far. I'd put my trust in him and his protocol long before "go home, drink pedialite and gobble tylenol".

I'm not entirely sure if it was an interview with him or not, I believe it was, these "studies" on the Hydroxy were in his words "designed to fail".

The patients were in late stages already, were the worst of the worst with the comorbidities and in some cases the amount of the drug administered was far more than his protocol calls for.

They jacked up the dosage, then wondered why a very sick person could develop a heart arrhythmia. I think they saw 2 cases, something like that. Yes, they died but they were well on their way alerady.

Dr. Raoult in France has had very good outcomes as well, and his was reported probably a month or more ago, He and Zalenko coming out with a meta-study soon, if this isn't it. Haven't clicked the links yet, just read what's been posted.

(05-01-2020 03:39 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-01-2020 03:37 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I tend to agree with this thought because why would someone try to stop a potential cure by asking vehemently for more tests when the medicine has been used for such a long time.

Because Orange Man Bad.

It always comes back to this, does it not

You look hard enough, you'll find every opinion you want. Being an MD doesn't make you better than anyone else, nor smarter than everyone (though certainly very smart in certain areas). Doctors are no less immune to TDS or self-serving opinions than anyone else in my experience... I remember listening to some California docs (not my personal friends, but who worked in my group) tell me how the problems they were having with the ACA again, in California (around 2012 or so) was the fault of Republicans.... both state and national.