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RE: TK Comments on Ryan Rollins
(02-18-2020 01:23 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 10:08 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(02-18-2020 08:17 AM)rockytop Wrote:  More “coach speak.” Every year we hear about the next great recruit, or how much player x has improved. Bottom line, TK has had the job for ten years and produced little. Time for a change.

Except for:
Most victories in a season
2nd highest season win%
Chair of Division 1 Ethics Coalition
Getting UT off the APR Violation list
First AP Honorable Mention All American since Steve Mix 1969
MAC POY
Numerous All MAC players
3 MAC West titles








1 regular season MAC title
4 post season appearances CIT, CBI, 2 NIT

Throw in most grey in a uniform
Coolest basketball court
Most excuses after a loss
I could go on...
NONE OF THOSE THINGS MATTER. DANCE OR DUMP

Grey sucks, white uniform with blue lettering is better
02-19-2020 06:22 AM
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Just my two cents worth, I think TK has built up enough “equity” over his UT Coaching career to deserve the opportunity to “right the ship” next season. Coming off a two year record of 48-19, one losing season to me is not a “trend” that calls for the firing of a coach who has won the amount of games he has and runs a clean program that graduates its players. Now if next season, we show similar results to this season, then we can begin to have that discussion.
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02-19-2020 12:49 PM
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(02-19-2020 12:49 PM)Basketball Jones Wrote:  Just my two cents worth, I think TK has built up enough “equity” over his UT Coaching career to deserve the opportunity to “right the ship” next season. Coming off a two year record of 48-19, one losing season to me is not a “trend” that calls for the firing of a coach who has won the amount of games he has and runs a clean program that graduates its players. Now if next season, we show similar results to this season, then we can begin to have that discussion.

Absolutely. You don't fire a guy after one down year. I think some fans are just venting their frustration and disappointment. It would have helped if this team had not been over-hyped prior to the start of the season.

As for the notion that a MAC coach should be judged solely on how often he makes the NCAA tournament, that seems downright silly. I'm not saying that it's not a factor, but some people are seriously arguing that it's the ONLY factor.
02-19-2020 01:34 PM
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(02-19-2020 01:34 PM)Dwight Wrote:  
(02-19-2020 12:49 PM)Basketball Jones Wrote:  Just my two cents worth, I think TK has built up enough “equity” over his UT Coaching career to deserve the opportunity to “right the ship” next season. Coming off a two year record of 48-19, one losing season to me is not a “trend” that calls for the firing of a coach who has won the amount of games he has and runs a clean program that graduates its players. Now if next season, we show similar results to this season, then we can begin to have that discussion.

Absolutely. You don't fire a guy after one down year. I think some fans are just venting their frustration and disappointment. It would have helped if this team had not been over-hyped prior to the start of the season.

As for the notion that a MAC coach should be judged solely on how often he makes the NCAA tournament, that seems downright silly. I'm not saying that it's not a factor, but some people are seriously arguing that it's the ONLY factor.

He has three more years on his contract after this season. He's not getting fired. Now if O'Brien were to retire, all bets are off. The new AD might want to clean house.
02-19-2020 01:42 PM
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I think not making the NCAAAs is really a consequence of being in the MAC and not merely on Coach K's record. Maybe if we were in a conference that gets more than one bid....in years when our record was better....we would have been invited. This year the Big 10 might get 10 teams in the tourney...some with not-so- good over-all records.

Every coach has faults. Wasn't the Wright State Coach (present UMKC) let go with a winning record? What seems to be annoying about Coach K is that he over-hypes the team and certain players before the season, and then we're let down by their average play + the Coach's excuses.....i.e. injuries to key players, the bye week coming to late in the season. Another annoying habit is he sometimes specifically "calls-out" players by name for poor play. Isn't that something that should be kept in the locker room?
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I’ve always found TK’s candor refreshing. No Tom Amstutzian coachspeak from him. If he’s unhappy about WJackson’s turnovers he says it, if he thinks he didn’t prepare the team properly he says so (he did both in a recent post-game interview). Not one of his top players has left. If he was calling out rarely used bench guys I could understand the concern as excuse making, but these guys are scholarship athletes who are expected to play at a certain level. His style isn’t driving them off and I doubt it impacts recruiting.
02-19-2020 05:55 PM
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(02-19-2020 05:55 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  I’ve always found TK’s candor refreshing. No Tom Amstutzian coachspeak from him. If he’s unhappy about WJackson’s turnovers he says it, if he thinks he didn’t prepare the team properly he says so (he did both in a recent post-game interview). Not one of his top players has left. If he was calling out rarely used bench guys I could understand the concern as excuse making, but these guys are scholarship athletes who are expected to play at a certain level. His style isn’t driving them off and I doubt it impacts recruiting.

Listen to the recent Coaches show with Babinot after we lost to BG and NIU in one week. It was 10 minutes bitching about refs. It's low accountability and lots of excuses IMO.
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(02-17-2020 10:07 PM)Basketball Jones Wrote:  Answering a question from a Caller tonight on his Coaches Show, TK said that Ryan Rollins will be a "difference maker" from Day 1 with Toledo but did not commit to him starting right away as a True Freshman. He also said that Edu will be ready to play this Spring, but that they will hold off on playing him in 5 on 5 situations until sometime this Summer. He added that the year off has help Edu develop both strength and shooting wise. He also said the doctors both locally and in Italy are hoping to get a positive report shortly from an upcoming MRI that Acunzo's broken foot is finally fully healed. He said again that Acunzo is one of the most highly skilled recruits they have ever signed and likened his abilities to TreShaun Fletcher.

aloha rockets it's been a couple weeks

back to the initial post by basketball jones, yeah, rollins is a baller. one of those kids you are happy to sign. he wasn't a high major recruit as a junior but started for the top aau team in the state. as a senior he is absolutely destroying teams. he will be a candidate for mr basketball simply on his level of domination and numbers (not saying he deserves it. gets it. is the best player in the state.) if he hadn't signed early and was more concerned with playing in a big time conference than fit- as a metro detroit kid, he would go to a bigger name school. good recruit. but as a freshman few players make a huge impact. you usually either get a promising but inconsistent player, a part time role player w some game oozing out or no production. i don't think he's ron harper or dan marjerle or gary trent. he won't have the role of a juice brown. but he's good so it will be fun to find out.

this team is a disappointment largely because of their defense. somewhere around kansas city in december they lost their defensive edge. last year edu really made a defensive impact. some of it was on the floor. some of it was him just elevating the defensive energy of the team. this year guys have been pretty passive on defense outside of littleson and in some spurts marreon. luke is solid when plays come at him but isn't a defender who covers a lot of ground. willie gains 60 pounds on the defensive end. alderson should be a better defender but has such a mental block about letting go that he usually doubts his instincts on both ends and plays smaller and slower than he is. the team started the year with a carryover of last year's defensive energy but without AJ (who would have been better) it wore off and players other than littleson went from being their best to mediocre. the biggest issue on the team is the defense.

i'll get excited about the italian when he definitely has 2 good feet. coach k has been using the treshaun fletcher comparison since since last summer.

regardless guys usually improve the most from year 1 to 2 so a lot of the energy and depth issues next year will depend on this year's freshmen and AJ. this year we got a very fast pg mostly playing with guys who are slow or tentative. and with the depth issues. you can't usually expect your most aggressive lineup (marreon, littleson, saunders, willie, luke) to keep up a high level of energy playing 35-37 minutes.

the biggest kick in the pants of this season will likely be coach k realizing too late he should have played more zone. which this team does well, negates speed, shortens the game, and would save a little bit of the legs too. since we don't play a defense that creates turnovers. play one that forces some long passes and uncomfortable shots. our man d is letting teams play to their strengths.
02-22-2020 03:51 AM
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