School//NET/KenPom/Sagarin/Massey
Houston//29/17/16/21
Cincy//46/39/31/40
WSU// 50/48/48/36
Memphis//59/63/53/49
UConn// 71/60/63/71
SMU/ 73/75/83/69
Tulsa//86/85/91/86
Temple// 105/105/100/101
USF// 115/123/94/125
UCF//119/119/103/113
Tulane//184/199/224/195
ECU// 208/213/195/201

I realize USF's Sagarin score looks out of place, but it is accurate.

Can someone with more time than me compile team ratings by year since the conference's inception?

A top 4 seed still in play for Houston. Even with another loss or two.

Also, Tulsa’s metrics versus UCONN’s. But Coach P told me that UCONN has no shot, but Tulsa does. Strange.

(02-10-2020 10:48 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Can someone with more time than me compile team ratings by year since the conference's inception?

In which one? NET was just created last year, so you wont have that.

(02-10-2020 11:17 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 10:48 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Can someone with more time than me compile team ratings by year since the conference's inception?

In which one? NET was just created last year, so you wont have that.

If I understand the Massey Composite correctly, that one should be the only one necessary

(02-10-2020 11:29 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 11:17 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 10:48 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Can someone with more time than me compile team ratings by year since the conference's inception?

In which one? NET was just created last year, so you wont have that.

If I understand the Massey Composite correctly, that one should be the only one necessary

Obviously some of these came while these teams were in different leagues at the time. Bolded the league leader each year
All final ranks except this year
In order today - 2019 - 2018 - 2017 - 2016 - 2015 - 2014

Houston - 21 - 10 - 18 - 56 - 65 - 210 - 126
Wichita - 36 - 64 - 19 - 16 - 24 - 13 - 5
Cincy - 40 - 22 - 6 - 17 - 40 - 42 - 19
Memphis - 49 - 56 - 118 - 99 - 90 - 87 - 32
Tulsa - 86 - 107 - 93 - 142 - 66 - 69 - 77
SMU - 69 - 117 - 92 - 14 - 17 - 24 - 34
UCONN - 71 - 108 - 152 - 102 - 29 - 76 - 6
Temple - 101 - 57 - 85 - 116 - 71 - 50 - 171
UCF - 113 - 28 - 97 - 64 - 189 - 251 - 164
South Florida - 125 - 88 - 266 - 292 - 234 - 273 - 195
Tulane - 195 - 297 - 173 - 260 - 206 - 202 - 235
ECU - 201 - 249 - 279 - 177 - 191 - 215 - 221

Lack of a table function on the forum makes this hard to present cleanly. Attachment shows it better and added Average, Median and Deviation to it.


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(02-10-2020 11:50 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 11:29 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 11:17 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 10:48 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Can someone with more time than me compile team ratings by year since the conference's inception?

In which one? NET was just created last year, so you wont have that.

If I understand the Massey Composite correctly, that one should be the only one necessary

Obviously some of these came while these teams were in different leagues at the time. Bolded the league leader each year
All final ranks except this year
In order today - 2019 - 2018 - 2017 - 2016 - 2015 - 2014

Houston - 21 - 10 - 18 - 56 - 65 - 210 - 126
Wichita - 36 - 64 - 19 - 16 - 24 - 13 - 5
Cincy - 40 - 22 - 6 - 17 - 40 - 42 - 19
Memphis - 49 - 56 - 118 - 99 - 90 - 87 - 32
Tulsa - 86 - 107 - 93 - 142 - 66 - 69 - 77
SMU - 69 - 117 - 92 - 14 - 17 - 24 - 34
UCONN - 71 - 108 - 152 - 102 - 29 - 76 - 6
Temple - 101 - 57 - 85 - 116 - 71 - 50 - 171
UCF - 113 - 28 - 97 - 64 - 189 - 251 - 164
South Florida - 125 - 88 - 266 - 292 - 234 - 273 - 195
Tulane - 195 - 297 - 173 - 260 - 206 - 202 - 235
ECU - 201 - 249 - 279 - 177 - 191 - 215 - 221

Lack of a table function on the forum makes this hard to present cleanly. Attachment shows it better and added Average, Median and Deviation to it.

Had you been working on that for awhile? Or did you just make it at Kruciff's suggestion?

Either way, cheers man. That's a handy little chart to have there. Would give rep points if I could (that starts at 1k posts, right?)

(02-10-2020 01:09 PM)Nameless Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 11:50 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 11:29 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 11:17 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 10:48 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Can someone with more time than me compile team ratings by year since the conference's inception?

In which one? NET was just created last year, so you wont have that.

If I understand the Massey Composite correctly, that one should be the only one necessary

Obviously some of these came while these teams were in different leagues at the time. Bolded the league leader each year
All final ranks except this year
In order today - 2019 - 2018 - 2017 - 2016 - 2015 - 2014

Houston - 21 - 10 - 18 - 56 - 65 - 210 - 126
Wichita - 36 - 64 - 19 - 16 - 24 - 13 - 5
Cincy - 40 - 22 - 6 - 17 - 40 - 42 - 19
Memphis - 49 - 56 - 118 - 99 - 90 - 87 - 32
Tulsa - 86 - 107 - 93 - 142 - 66 - 69 - 77
SMU - 69 - 117 - 92 - 14 - 17 - 24 - 34
UCONN - 71 - 108 - 152 - 102 - 29 - 76 - 6
Temple - 101 - 57 - 85 - 116 - 71 - 50 - 171
UCF - 113 - 28 - 97 - 64 - 189 - 251 - 164
South Florida - 125 - 88 - 266 - 292 - 234 - 273 - 195
Tulane - 195 - 297 - 173 - 260 - 206 - 202 - 235
ECU - 201 - 249 - 279 - 177 - 191 - 215 - 221

Lack of a table function on the forum makes this hard to present cleanly. Attachment shows it better and added Average, Median and Deviation to it.

Had you been working on that for awhile? Or did you just make it at Kruciff's suggestion?

Either way, cheers man. That's a handy little chart to have there. Would give rep points if I could (that starts at 1k posts, right?)

500 posts. Post more. I'll give them for you.

(02-10-2020 01:11 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 01:09 PM)Nameless Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 11:50 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 11:29 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 11:17 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  In which one? NET was just created last year, so you wont have that.

If I understand the Massey Composite correctly, that one should be the only one necessary

Obviously some of these came while these teams were in different leagues at the time. Bolded the league leader each year
All final ranks except this year
In order today - 2019 - 2018 - 2017 - 2016 - 2015 - 2014

Houston - 21 - 10 - 18 - 56 - 65 - 210 - 126
Wichita - 36 - 64 - 19 - 16 - 24 - 13 - 5
Cincy - 40 - 22 - 6 - 17 - 40 - 42 - 19
Memphis - 49 - 56 - 118 - 99 - 90 - 87 - 32
Tulsa - 86 - 107 - 93 - 142 - 66 - 69 - 77
SMU - 69 - 117 - 92 - 14 - 17 - 24 - 34
UCONN - 71 - 108 - 152 - 102 - 29 - 76 - 6
Temple - 101 - 57 - 85 - 116 - 71 - 50 - 171
UCF - 113 - 28 - 97 - 64 - 189 - 251 - 164
South Florida - 125 - 88 - 266 - 292 - 234 - 273 - 195
Tulane - 195 - 297 - 173 - 260 - 206 - 202 - 235
ECU - 201 - 249 - 279 - 177 - 191 - 215 - 221

Lack of a table function on the forum makes this hard to present cleanly. Attachment shows it better and added Average, Median and Deviation to it.

Had you been working on that for awhile? Or did you just make it at Kruciff's suggestion?

Either way, cheers man. That's a handy little chart to have there. Would give rep points if I could (that starts at 1k posts, right?)

500 posts. Post more. I'll give them for you.

nice to know I'm much closer than I thought

(02-10-2020 01:09 PM)Nameless Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 11:50 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 11:29 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 11:17 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 10:48 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Can someone with more time than me compile team ratings by year since the conference's inception?

In which one? NET was just created last year, so you wont have that.

If I understand the Massey Composite correctly, that one should be the only one necessary

Obviously some of these came while these teams were in different leagues at the time. Bolded the league leader each year
All final ranks except this year
In order today - 2019 - 2018 - 2017 - 2016 - 2015 - 2014

Houston - 21 - 10 - 18 - 56 - 65 - 210 - 126
Wichita - 36 - 64 - 19 - 16 - 24 - 13 - 5
Cincy - 40 - 22 - 6 - 17 - 40 - 42 - 19
Memphis - 49 - 56 - 118 - 99 - 90 - 87 - 32
Tulsa - 86 - 107 - 93 - 142 - 66 - 69 - 77
SMU - 69 - 117 - 92 - 14 - 17 - 24 - 34
UCONN - 71 - 108 - 152 - 102 - 29 - 76 - 6
Temple - 101 - 57 - 85 - 116 - 71 - 50 - 171
UCF - 113 - 28 - 97 - 64 - 189 - 251 - 164
South Florida - 125 - 88 - 266 - 292 - 234 - 273 - 195
Tulane - 195 - 297 - 173 - 260 - 206 - 202 - 235
ECU - 201 - 249 - 279 - 177 - 191 - 215 - 221

Lack of a table function on the forum makes this hard to present cleanly. Attachment shows it better and added Average, Median and Deviation to it.

Had you been working on that for awhile? Or did you just make it at Kruciff's suggestion?

Either way, cheers man. That's a handy little chart to have there. Would give rep points if I could (that starts at 1k posts, right?)

Only took like 10-15 min honestly. All the data is there on Massey's site. Click on a year, sort by conference, then type them.

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AAC not meeting expectations: Not long ago, the American Athletic Conference looked poised to put three teams comfortably into the NCAA Tournament. Now, it is closer to being a one-bid league. In particular, Memphis and Wichita State are slumping badly.

The Shockers, who rarely lose at home, have lost five of their last seven, including to Houston and Cincinnati at home. Wichita State is now a No. 11-seed in my bracket and just outside the First Four.

Memphis is falling apart at the seams. James Wiseman quit the team rather than return from an NCAA suspension. Second leading scorer DJ Jeffries is out 4-6 weeks with a knee injury. Malcolm Dandridge sat out the loss to USF on Saturday with a knee injury as well, but he's day-to-day. During that game, Precious Achiuwa left the game with an injury late in the second half and did not return. The Tigers have fallen out of the bracket entirely and are not even among my first four out.


Cincinnati had been making a bit of a run, but that derailed in an overtime loss at UConn on Sunday.

Only Houston has been steady and comfortably in the bracket. At the rate things are going, they may be the league's lone representative.

(02-10-2020 01:36 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 01:09 PM)Nameless Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 11:50 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 11:29 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 11:17 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  In which one? NET was just created last year, so you wont have that.

If I understand the Massey Composite correctly, that one should be the only one necessary

Obviously some of these came while these teams were in different leagues at the time. Bolded the league leader each year
All final ranks except this year
In order today - 2019 - 2018 - 2017 - 2016 - 2015 - 2014

Houston - 21 - 10 - 18 - 56 - 65 - 210 - 126
Wichita - 36 - 64 - 19 - 16 - 24 - 13 - 5
Cincy - 40 - 22 - 6 - 17 - 40 - 42 - 19
Memphis - 49 - 56 - 118 - 99 - 90 - 87 - 32
Tulsa - 86 - 107 - 93 - 142 - 66 - 69 - 77
SMU - 69 - 117 - 92 - 14 - 17 - 24 - 34
UCONN - 71 - 108 - 152 - 102 - 29 - 76 - 6
Temple - 101 - 57 - 85 - 116 - 71 - 50 - 171
UCF - 113 - 28 - 97 - 64 - 189 - 251 - 164
South Florida - 125 - 88 - 266 - 292 - 234 - 273 - 195
Tulane - 195 - 297 - 173 - 260 - 206 - 202 - 235
ECU - 201 - 249 - 279 - 177 - 191 - 215 - 221

Lack of a table function on the forum makes this hard to present cleanly. Attachment shows it better and added Average, Median and Deviation to it.

Had you been working on that for awhile? Or did you just make it at Kruciff's suggestion?

Either way, cheers man. That's a handy little chart to have there. Would give rep points if I could (that starts at 1k posts, right?)

Only took like 10-15 min honestly. All the data is there on Massey's site. Click on a year, sort by conference, then type them.

Sent from my SM-N975U1 using Tapatalk

I think I had tried to do something similar with rpi (since that was the main metric used by the committee for awhile) but kept finding broken links when I tried to find data from a few years ago. I guess that experience made me think that list took you way longer to compile than it actually did, lol.

Either way, thanks again for compiling it!

This league sucks..

The top of the conference is underperforming quite a bit compared to years past. Wisconsin is 14-10 and has more Q1 wins than our top 4 teams (in NET) combined.

Houston seems to be the only team meeting expectations.

Cincinnati is hampered by bad early season losses.

Wichita played a weak OOC and is getting exposed a little bit during AAC play, but is also just suffering from losing close games as a young team.

Memphis took some bad breaks with Wiseman and Jeffries, and would arguably be the top team in the league with a full roster.