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(01-28-2020 08:57 PM)jarr Wrote:  Alot of people over complicating the early season struggles, but this team is all about how well Jarron plays.

When Cumberland is good, UC is good. When not good, UC is not so good. I think it's pretty clear that Brannen was not trying to hold him back based on the way he is utilizing him, but more something was going on with him (injuries?) early this year.

I won't discount the preseason injury as part of Cumberland's problems but in my opinion the real problem was it took until 3 games ago for Brannen to realize that Cumberland plays the best with the ball in his hands. Three games ago he moved Cumberland to PG and the team has played its best basketball since. Did Brannen even watch tape of last year's UC team?

Team stats with Cumberland at PG
50% shooting, 34% from three, 19 assists, 12 turnovers
Team yearly stats
44% shooting, 31% from three, 14.5 assists, 15 turnovers

(01-28-2020 10:11 PM)dsquare Wrote:  Enjoy his last couple months as a Bearcat. He's a special player. It's a shame the season started out with him being banged up, but here's to hoping he finishes very, very strong. Kid's a gamer.

The big news is if he's back to form, we can still win without Tre and Jaevin having productive nights. LOL

my man, it's a beautiful redemption story

In the first 14 games of the season, Jarron was the leading scorer only 3 times (he was tied in the OSU game and he missed the Valpo game) and they were 8-6. Since the Tulane game, UC is 5-1. Jarron has led them in scoring in 4 of those 5 wins, and led them in assist in all 6. Coincidence? I think not.

(01-29-2020 02:39 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  In the first 14 games of the season, Jarron was the leading scorer only 3 times (he was tied in the OSU game and he missed the Valpo game) and they were 8-6. Since the Tulane game, UC is 5-1. Jarron has led them in scoring in 4 of those 5 wins, and led them in assist in all 6. Coincidence? I think not.

The first 14 games Brannen was trying to put a square peg in a round hole with this team by running HIS offense. Once he realized how dumb that was and gave Cumberland the reigns the team has been much improved.

(01-29-2020 02:57 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(01-29-2020 02:39 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  In the first 14 games of the season, Jarron was the leading scorer only 3 times (he was tied in the OSU game and he missed the Valpo game) and they were 8-6. Since the Tulane game, UC is 5-1. Jarron has led them in scoring in 4 of those 5 wins, and led them in assist in all 6. Coincidence? I think not.

The first 14 games Brannen was trying to put a square peg in a round hole with this team by running HIS offense. Once he realized how dumb that was and gave Cumberland the reigns the team has been much improved.

Jarron was not in game shape. His cardio sucked and he has lost noticeable weight in the past month. While I can't say for certain, I think his injuries were worse than we are told.

Now that Jarron is in shape and appears to be healthy, the ball is in his hands to make plays. The team is still running JB's offense, if you think they are doing the same things they were doing last year you aren't watching close enough.

(01-29-2020 02:57 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(01-29-2020 02:39 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  In the first 14 games of the season, Jarron was the leading scorer only 3 times (he was tied in the OSU game and he missed the Valpo game) and they were 8-6. Since the Tulane game, UC is 5-1. Jarron has led them in scoring in 4 of those 5 wins, and led them in assist in all 6. Coincidence? I think not.

The first 14 games Brannen was trying to put a square peg in a round hole with this team by running HIS offense. Once he realized how dumb that was and gave Cumberland the reigns the team has been much improved.

Bolded, or once Cumberland was healthy enough to do what he did last night and log those minutes at the point.

I believe Jarron always had the "will to" but not the "ability to" earlier this season. The lingering impact of the injury appears to have impacted performance and endurance in November and December. It was clearly showing in his field goal shooting, free throw shooting and drives to the rim prior to the past couple of weeks. Frankly, I'm thrilled for him to be able to finish his career on a high note--as one of UC's all-time great players.

(01-29-2020 03:05 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-29-2020 02:57 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(01-29-2020 02:39 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  In the first 14 games of the season, Jarron was the leading scorer only 3 times (he was tied in the OSU game and he missed the Valpo game) and they were 8-6. Since the Tulane game, UC is 5-1. Jarron has led them in scoring in 4 of those 5 wins, and led them in assist in all 6. Coincidence? I think not.

The first 14 games Brannen was trying to put a square peg in a round hole with this team by running HIS offense. Once he realized how dumb that was and gave Cumberland the reigns the team has been much improved.

Jarron was not in game shape. His cardio sucked and he has lost noticeable weight in the past month. While I can't say for certain, I think his injuries were worse than we are told.

Now that Jarron is in shape and appears to be healthy, the ball is in his hands to make plays. The team is still running JB's offense, if you think they are doing the same things they were doing last year you aren't watching close enough.

This. Lol What are some of you watching?

This offense looks nothing like last years. We're very much still running a Brannen offense it's just now we have our best player healthy to run it. The passing and ability to get open shots, especially against a zone is night and day compared to last year.

(01-29-2020 02:57 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(01-29-2020 02:39 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  In the first 14 games of the season, Jarron was the leading scorer only 3 times (he was tied in the OSU game and he missed the Valpo game) and they were 8-6. Since the Tulane game, UC is 5-1. Jarron has led them in scoring in 4 of those 5 wins, and led them in assist in all 6. Coincidence? I think not.

The first 14 games Brannen was trying to put a square peg in a round hole with this team by running HIS offense. Once he realized how dumb that was and gave Cumberland the reigns the team has been much improved.

LOLOLOL... you are kidding right? You think we are running Cronin's sysytem? That dreadful thing was shipped out west with Mick.

(01-29-2020 03:34 PM)Sweetness Wrote:  

(01-29-2020 03:05 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-29-2020 02:57 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(01-29-2020 02:39 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  In the first 14 games of the season, Jarron was the leading scorer only 3 times (he was tied in the OSU game and he missed the Valpo game) and they were 8-6. Since the Tulane game, UC is 5-1. Jarron has led them in scoring in 4 of those 5 wins, and led them in assist in all 6. Coincidence? I think not.

The first 14 games Brannen was trying to put a square peg in a round hole with this team by running HIS offense. Once he realized how dumb that was and gave Cumberland the reigns the team has been much improved.

Jarron was not in game shape. His cardio sucked and he has lost noticeable weight in the past month. While I can't say for certain, I think his injuries were worse than we are told.

Now that Jarron is in shape and appears to be healthy, the ball is in his hands to make plays. The team is still running JB's offense, if you think they are doing the same things they were doing last year you aren't watching close enough.

This. Lol What are some of you watching?

This offense looks nothing like last years. We're very much still running a Brannen offense it's just now we have our best player healthy to run it. The passing and ability to get open shots, especially against a zone is night and day compared to last year.

There was a point in last night's game, I believe it was about midway through the second half when the rout was on, we were in our halfcourt offense and had made 5 or 6 real quick passes in the span of just a few seconds. SMU's defense had gotten dizzy and out of position. The play ended with the ball to Sorolla inside and then a quick kickout to Harvey who hit a wide open 3 from just off the top of the arch.

I turned to my buddy I go to games with and said "a quick action, head-spinning offense like that would never have been found under Cronin with his iso sets and drain the clock" but damn did if it didn't look good last night. Helps when shots are falling and SMU couldn't hit a shot to save their life.

(01-29-2020 02:57 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  

(01-29-2020 02:39 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  In the first 14 games of the season, Jarron was the leading scorer only 3 times (he was tied in the OSU game and he missed the Valpo game) and they were 8-6. Since the Tulane game, UC is 5-1. Jarron has led them in scoring in 4 of those 5 wins, and led them in assist in all 6. Coincidence? I think not.

The first 14 games Brannen was trying to put a square peg in a round hole with this team by running HIS offense. Once he realized how dumb that was and gave Cumberland the reigns the team has been much improved.

Jarron had similar usage numbers (actually took a higher percentage of the team's shots) early in the year. He was battling injuries, was clearly uncomfortable and his conditioning wasn't there. He couldn't get by people and got very little separation outside. He's played his way healthy and into shape and his roll shifted. He's been a center focus all year. Now he's playing efficiently.

Just look at x game. They repeatedly tried to play through him but he was bad. He's 100% now, he's in shape and he understands the system. It's a great combo.

Brannen benched him for a game. They were butting heads. Seems like both sides have worked things out a bit.

Jarron isn't being hidden in the corner any more, they aren't weaving him around the top of the key, they aren't running him around screens off the ball. He's got the ball and he's making plays. He was definitely battling injuries early, but it's not just that he's finally healthy, it's also the way that the staff has used him that's made him more effective. It's awesome to see, because senior year Cumberland should dominate like he has of late.

Christ wept...Mark can already almost not get his overinflated noggin into his Smart Car...threads like this are going to make him even more insufferable heading into this years NCAA brackets.

Let’s bump the other thread where Rommel thinks he’s a white guy who is a racist against white guys...

(01-28-2020 08:57 PM)jarr Wrote:  Alot of people over complicating the early season struggles, but this team is all about how well Jarron plays.

When Cumberland is good, UC is good. When not good, UC is not so good. I think it's pretty clear that Brannen was not trying to hold him back based on the way he is utilizing him, but more something was going on with him (injuries?) early this year.

Healthy Jarron all season and UC is a tourney lock and in the top 25

Go watch the X game as Jarron repeatedly struggled to beat Zach bleeping Freemantle off the bounce and tell me in what world it made sense to move him to move him on the ball and ask him to facilitate the offense. He couldn't beat Mark off the dribble in November and December...

(01-29-2020 07:21 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

Dayum. I didn’t know mark posed for this meme. Looking good counselor.

(01-29-2020 10:39 PM)GameTime_21 Wrote:  Go watch the X game as Jarron repeatedly struggled to beat Zach bleeping Freemantle off the bounce and tell me in what world it made sense to move him to move him on the ball and ask him to facilitate the offense. He couldn't beat Mark off the dribble in November and December...

The X game really was the low point of it. Still wasn't quite integrated with all the lingering injuries and you could just see how hampered he was by the hip injury. He kept trying to make plays but couldn't create separation from anyone.

As I said in the other thread, the fact that it was Jarron playing poorly was the reason I always remained optimistic about the season. I always believed he'd figure it out. Been great watching healthy Jarron, fully (or close to fully) integrated into Brannen's system.

(01-30-2020 09:08 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(01-29-2020 10:39 PM)GameTime_21 Wrote:  Go watch the X game as Jarron repeatedly struggled to beat Zach bleeping Freemantle off the bounce and tell me in what world it made sense to move him to move him on the ball and ask him to facilitate the offense. He couldn't beat Mark off the dribble in November and December...

The X game really was the low point of it. Still wasn't quite integrated with all the lingering injuries and you could just see how hampered he was by the hip injury. He kept trying to make plays but couldn't create separation from anyone.

As I said in the other thread, the fact that it was Jarron playing poorly was the reason I always remained optimistic about the season. I always believed he'd figure it out. Been great watching healthy Jarron, fully (or close to fully) integrated into Brannen's system.

Speaking of X, i see in their box score they bested us in our Bowling Green ft % for a game. The hall of ft shame, 44%.

Fwiw on JC and the X game, he should never have been out there with that swollen hip. Just to banged up.