(01-24-2020 08:53 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(01-23-2020 04:15 PM)gusrob Wrote:  Penny very rarely loses to teams we're favored against. How has this become Penny underachieving?

The chicken littles on this board better hope the Tulsa loss is not a one off or they will look even worse than they do now.

I really don't know if it's possible for me to look any worse, but perhaps?

(01-23-2020 07:55 AM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  I’m not a coach, but I’m wondering if Penny is either.

He runs an up-tempo style offense with a team that cannot shoot or score and a team that turns the ball over at an absurd rate.

Would he not be better suited to play Virginia style and take the air out of the ball and emphasize the strength of the team: the defense?

Like they said on the broadcast last night: we are #1 in defensive efficiency or some stat like that, which surprised them based on the up-tempo pace we play. They said imagine if we played slower. It’d be even harder to score on us.

Thoughts?

Um, you realize Virginia is a bubble team at best right now.

Maybe not the best example.

(01-24-2020 12:13 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-23-2020 07:55 AM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  I’m not a coach, but I’m wondering if Penny is either.

He runs an up-tempo style offense with a team that cannot shoot or score and a team that turns the ball over at an absurd rate.

Would he not be better suited to play Virginia style and take the air out of the ball and emphasize the strength of the team: the defense?

Like they said on the broadcast last night: we are #1 in defensive efficiency or some stat like that, which surprised them based on the up-tempo pace we play. They said imagine if we played slower. It’d be even harder to score on us.

Thoughts?

Um, you realize Virginia is a bubble team at best right now.

Maybe not the best example.

Not really the point. The point is that this team obviously has serious issues on offense. It's not my job, your job or anyone's job except for Penny and staff to find answers. However, this is a message board, and we post here to share our opinions, ask questions, debate topics, etc. I was simply wondering if any else is of the opinion that the up-tempo style doesn't suit the strengths of this team.

I don't know if slowing the game down is the right thing to do. What I do know is what they are doing now is clearly not working. My best description for the offense right now is gross. It's hard to watch. The defense has been good except for the Tulsa game. But the offense is so bad that I just can't see us being a real threat in March unless something changes.

(01-24-2020 12:13 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-23-2020 07:55 AM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  I’m not a coach, but I’m wondering if Penny is either.

He runs an up-tempo style offense with a team that cannot shoot or score and a team that turns the ball over at an absurd rate.

Would he not be better suited to play Virginia style and take the air out of the ball and emphasize the strength of the team: the defense?

Like they said on the broadcast last night: we are #1 in defensive efficiency or some stat like that, which surprised them based on the up-tempo pace we play. They said imagine if we played slower. It’d be even harder to score on us.

Thoughts?

Um, you realize Virginia is a bubble team at best right now.

Maybe not the best example.

and Virginia lost a game by 30 this season as well.

(01-24-2020 12:30 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 12:13 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-23-2020 07:55 AM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  I’m not a coach, but I’m wondering if Penny is either.

He runs an up-tempo style offense with a team that cannot shoot or score and a team that turns the ball over at an absurd rate.

Would he not be better suited to play Virginia style and take the air out of the ball and emphasize the strength of the team: the defense?

Like they said on the broadcast last night: we are #1 in defensive efficiency or some stat like that, which surprised them based on the up-tempo pace we play. They said imagine if we played slower. It’d be even harder to score on us.

Thoughts?

Um, you realize Virginia is a bubble team at best right now.

Maybe not the best example.

and Virginia lost a game by 30 this season as well.

Forget I even said Virginia. I'm not saying Memphis should do what Virginia does so we can match the success or lack thereof they've had this season. I was asking if Penny should consider changing things up on offense.

Maybe slowing it down won't fix anything. Not sure what else can be done. The team seems incapable of holding on to the ball, hitting open shots, scoring in 1:1 type situations, beating a zone or doing anything that could be considered remotely productive on offense.

(01-23-2020 04:15 PM)gusrob Wrote:  Penny very rarely loses to teams we're favored against. How has this become Penny underachieving?

and Tulsa has been two of them........

(01-24-2020 12:37 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 12:30 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 12:13 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-23-2020 07:55 AM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  I’m not a coach, but I’m wondering if Penny is either.

He runs an up-tempo style offense with a team that cannot shoot or score and a team that turns the ball over at an absurd rate.

Would he not be better suited to play Virginia style and take the air out of the ball and emphasize the strength of the team: the defense?

Like they said on the broadcast last night: we are #1 in defensive efficiency or some stat like that, which surprised them based on the up-tempo pace we play. They said imagine if we played slower. It’d be even harder to score on us.

Thoughts?

Um, you realize Virginia is a bubble team at best right now.

Maybe not the best example.

and Virginia lost a game by 30 this season as well.

Forget I even said Virginia. I'm not saying Memphis should do what Virginia does so we can match the success or lack thereof they've had this season. I was asking if Penny should consider changing things up on offense.

Maybe slowing it down won't fix anything. Not sure what else can be done. The team seems incapable of holding on to the ball, hitting open shots, scoring in 1:1 type situations, beating a zone or doing anything that could be considered remotely productive on offense.

I don't see how putting this team is situations where they have to make more passes and precisely execute an offense is a recipe for success.

(01-24-2020 12:30 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(01-24-2020 12:13 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-23-2020 07:55 AM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  I’m not a coach, but I’m wondering if Penny is either.

He runs an up-tempo style offense with a team that cannot shoot or score and a team that turns the ball over at an absurd rate.

Would he not be better suited to play Virginia style and take the air out of the ball and emphasize the strength of the team: the defense?

Like they said on the broadcast last night: we are #1 in defensive efficiency or some stat like that, which surprised them based on the up-tempo pace we play. They said imagine if we played slower. It’d be even harder to score on us.

Thoughts?

Um, you realize Virginia is a bubble team at best right now.

Maybe not the best example.

and Virginia lost a game by 30 this season as well.

Well, Virginia has a poor coach who just rolls out the balls and let's the players do what they want , so UVA is a bad example. C

You people gonna run Penny off. If I where him I would tolerate this idiocy. But if I where him I would read this board either.

So there is hope...

Such stupidity here.

(01-24-2020 08:53 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(01-23-2020 04:15 PM)gusrob Wrote:  Penny very rarely loses to teams we're favored against. How has this become Penny underachieving?

We are 13-4 after losing our best player

UNC is 8-10 after losing their best player.


The chicken littles on this board better hope the Tulsa loss is not a one off or they will look even worse than they do now.

Coach Roy is a terrible coach. He should probably retire. Good coaches don’t have bad teams or bad games ever. Comparing Memphis to NC is ridiculous.

(01-23-2020 04:16 PM)gusrob Wrote:  

(01-23-2020 04:14 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  

(01-23-2020 04:13 PM)gusrob Wrote:  

(01-23-2020 03:50 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  

(01-23-2020 03:43 PM)gusrob Wrote:  We'd be onto what Kentucky was after Pitino wore off....mediocre. Kentucky recruited itself. No work necessary. Tubby is consistent if nothing else. NO THANKS for me.

Would you rather be 22-10 with a roster of 4* and 5* players that consistently underachieved or 22-10 with a bunch of 2* and 3* players that consistently overachieved?

Am I choosing between Tubby (UK) and Tubby (everywhere else)?

Well, you did say he was consistent.

He's "20 win Tubby" for a reason.

Actually, he was known as "10 Loss Tubby" at UK.

Seems critical thinking is in short supply in this thread. We won at UTK & beat Cincy playing effectively against slow-down teams. Effectively meaning adapting, working the ball to get open shots, shots at the rim. Against Tulsa, we had nothing - we'd rush to shoot bad shots, then let Tulsa work our D until they got the shots they wanted. It's never black & white. To run sets is not necessarily Tubby ball & UVA doesn't JUST slow it down. Bennett will run if he has the talent, but always plays tough D & will always want to run sets if they don't have the break. In contract we just seem to rush to get a shot up good or bad - and when the hurry-up shot isn't falling we are susceptible to being blown out, i.e. Tulsa.