(01-09-2020 10:21 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-09-2020 09:47 AM)Claw Wrote:  I thought this group was sharper than this.

Trump is still not tipping his hand to any Democrats.

That is why the "bad" briefing happened. There were Democrats there.

Great...presidency done by spite.

Although it's exactly what you guys cheerfully signed up for. Sad.

Why would you expect courtesy from a guy you are trying to impeach?

The Democrats are reaping the rewards of their actions.

(01-09-2020 10:21 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-09-2020 09:47 AM)Claw Wrote:  I thought this group was sharper than this.

Trump is still not tipping his hand to any Democrats.

That is why the "bad" briefing happened. There were Democrats there.

Great...presidency done by spite.

Although it's exactly what you guys cheerfully signed up for. Sad.

You're not suggesting Trump is the first to do it by spite, are you?

Remember the phrase, "Elections have consequences?"

BUT MUH SPITE!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/11/politics/...index.html

Quote:Republican Sen. Mike Lee of Utah has agreed to co-sponsor Sen. Bernie Sanders' legislation that would freeze funding for any military action in Iran without express approval from Congress.

Sanders, a Vermont independent who's running for the Democratic presidential nomination, introduced the bill shortly after the Trump administration held a classified briefing in which advisers outlined the case for their military strike last week that killed Iranian Gen. Qasem Soleimani.
Sanders was sharply critical of the briefing, saying afterward that the administration's briefers gave no proof of any imminent attack by Iran against US targets.
"They are justifying the assassination of Qasem Soleimani by claiming that he was planning 'imminent attacks' on hundreds of Americans in the region and yet they produced no evidence that would justify this claim, not even in a classified setting," Sanders said in a statement.
Lee becomes the first Republican in the Senate to sign on to the bill. During his time in the Senate, Lee has been consistently opposed to American intervention in foreign conflicts and was also highly critical of the administration's briefing on Iran. He called it "insulting and demeaning" and added that it was "the worst briefing I've seen, at least on a military issue."
Sanders and Lee have teamed up before to push legislation asserting congressional oversight of military issues. They spearheaded a bipartisan war powers resolution to end US support for the military conflict in Yemen. The bill passed both the House and Senate but was vetoed by President Donald Trump.
In a joint statement to CNN, the two senators said that while they don't agree about much, this is an issue where they have common ground.
"As United States Senators, we often disagree on many issues. But standing up for the Constitution is not about partisanship. The Founding Fathers were absolutely clear. They wanted to ensure that our country avoided needless conflict and they understood that presidential war-making would be harmful to our democracy," they said in the statement.
The House has already passed a war powers resolution aimed at keeping the administration from striking Iran without congressional approval. Three Republicans joined Democrats in passing that bill, which now goes to the Senate. A bill similar to the one being introduced by Sanders that would utilize the power of the purse to limit the military intervention is also being introduced.
Sanders already has 11 Democratic co-sponsors for the "No War with Iran Act," including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York.

Wait for the heads to explode or sky screaming to start when it hits about the secret letters between the last POTUS and the “beloved” General.

(01-11-2020 11:26 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Wait for the heads to explode or sky screaming to start when it hits about the secret letters between the last POTUS and the “beloved” General.

gdunn deflects be like:

(01-11-2020 11:22 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/11/politics/...index.html

Quote:Republican Sen. Mike Lee of Utah has agreed to co-sponsor Sen. Bernie Sanders' legislation that would freeze funding for any military action in Iran without express approval from Congress.

Sanders, a Vermont independent who's running for the Democratic presidential nomination, introduced the bill shortly after the Trump administration held a classified briefing in which advisers outlined the case for their military strike last week that killed Iranian Gen. Qasem Soleimani.
Sanders was sharply critical of the briefing, saying afterward that the administration's briefers gave no proof of any imminent attack by Iran against US targets.
"They are justifying the assassination of Qasem Soleimani by claiming that he was planning 'imminent attacks' on hundreds of Americans in the region and yet they produced no evidence that would justify this claim, not even in a classified setting," Sanders said in a statement.
Lee becomes the first Republican in the Senate to sign on to the bill. During his time in the Senate, Lee has been consistently opposed to American intervention in foreign conflicts and was also highly critical of the administration's briefing on Iran. He called it "insulting and demeaning" and added that it was "the worst briefing I've seen, at least on a military issue."
Sanders and Lee have teamed up before to push legislation asserting congressional oversight of military issues. They spearheaded a bipartisan war powers resolution to end US support for the military conflict in Yemen. The bill passed both the House and Senate but was vetoed by President Donald Trump.
In a joint statement to CNN, the two senators said that while they don't agree about much, this is an issue where they have common ground.
"As United States Senators, we often disagree on many issues. But standing up for the Constitution is not about partisanship. The Founding Fathers were absolutely clear. They wanted to ensure that our country avoided needless conflict and they understood that presidential war-making would be harmful to our democracy," they said in the statement.
The House has already passed a war powers resolution aimed at keeping the administration from striking Iran without congressional approval. Three Republicans joined Democrats in passing that bill, which now goes to the Senate. A bill similar to the one being introduced by Sanders that would utilize the power of the purse to limit the military intervention is also being introduced.
Sanders already has 11 Democratic co-sponsors for the "No War with Iran Act," including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York.

Is that similar to the vote Congress failed to pass allowing Obama to sign the nuke deal with Iran that he signed anyway? Congress can pass any bill they want, but they can't take away constitutional executive branch powers.

(01-11-2020 11:34 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(01-11-2020 11:26 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Wait for the heads to explode or sky screaming to start when it hits about the secret letters between the last POTUS and the “beloved” General.

gdunn deflects be like:

Thanks for making my point JDT. Maybe your posting here against your sworn word isn’t a bad idea in this case.

Donald J. Trump is the President of the United States.

And will likely be re-elected in 2020.

No matter what you libs spout, those are the facts. And there's nothing you can do about it.

Are we at war yet?

Any specifics about what was wrong with the briefing? I'll try to ask Rand's brother next week if I don't hear more before then.