(12-05-2019 12:29 PM)salukiblue Wrote: There is no such thing. Patterson was an anomaly. The only coaches that stay as long as they want are at about five programs and also have to win according to expectations 90% of the time.
And here's the irony...if TCU has another bad year Patterson might get canned.
He was 48-7 in conference in the MWC. He is 39-34 in the B12 and only 18-19 the past four years.
Okay, then it comes down to, do you REALLY want to join a P5 conference? Because I believe Gary Patterson was/is a great coach. The fact that he did so well in the MW and "meh" in the BigXII I would guess would give you pause.
So not only do you want a coach to have a ceiling of 9 wins, because it is risky to win more, you want him to be able to sleepwalk through seasons cranking out 9 wins, with no ambition whatsoever to do better. And you also don't want us to be in a P5 conference. Sounds like a blast.
Quote:The fact that he did so well in the MW and "meh" in the BigXII I would guess would give you pause.
Between 2014 and 2017; TCU finished #3, #7 and #9 in the final polls in the Big 12.
I'm looking forward to you dancing around like a chick in high heels on an ice rink trying to explain to us less intellectual folks how your description of "meh" falls into the category of metaphor.
Uhhh, yeah... I was accusing saluki of having that attitude. See bolded above.
I realize inflection is difficult on a message board, but that was a pretty bad misunderstanding of my meaning.
Fair enough. I think though that the two mercenaries have now built us into a national brand, which I also mention in the post above. Maybe UCF is equally or more coveted as a coaching stopover; but we have passed Boise and Cincinnati, and Houston was never at our level.
That is an incredible accomplishment. Never in a million years would I trade that in for a run of the mill 8-9 wins a year, with no discernible identity.
Look Stammers, OF COURSE I want to go undefeated every year, and win the NC. Who doesn't? I was just lashing out.... throwing a little temper tantrum. Catharsis. I've got to go through this every coaching change, because I, unlike a lot of Tigers fans apparently, am not a cuck. I'm not gonna cower in a corner wishing my S.O. the best on her next "encounter".
(12-05-2019 12:29 PM)salukiblue Wrote: There is no such thing. Patterson was an anomaly. The only coaches that stay as long as they want are at about five programs and also have to win according to expectations 90% of the time.
And here's the irony...if TCU has another bad year Patterson might get canned.
He was 48-7 in conference in the MWC. He is 39-34 in the B12 and only 18-19 the past four years.
I was going to bring up Patterson and Norvell in the same light. Patterson might be close to done and if we went 8-6 again this year with another bowl loss, Norvell's chair would be at least warm.
Yep. Memphis fans are already accepting this 9-3 and better as "the usual." We are in the damn AAC title game and right now only 30K tickets are sold.
If Norvell were to go 8-5 then 7-6 two years in a row (and going to the Tijuana Donkey Show Bowl) folks would be demanding a AAC division title that following year or then time to move on.
The imagery of the TJ Donkey Show is more than I care to absorb right now. Is that still a thing down there?
(12-05-2019 01:41 PM)memtigbb Wrote: For the OP original question... West didnt have any coaching life left in him when he was fired from the UofM.
Quote:At this point, I'd like someone who is good enough to sustain 8-9 win seasons
Throughout this whole thread everyone understands that he doesn't actually want to hire Tommy West. Everyone gets it...except you.
Why in the F are you quoting me? Another Stammers idiot post.
Because he was answering YOU.
ETA: for a further explanation of what he was saying to you, visit post #28.
I hear what you are saying and never expected anyone to be serious about him coaching again here...
That really has nothing to do with my post of... West had no coaching life left in him when he was fired...
in fact, I didnt even say NO DONT HIRE HIM or anything else... Just a tongue in cheek comment about West losing his desire to coach many, many years ago.
(12-05-2019 01:37 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote: Look Stammers, OF COURSE I want to go undefeated every year, and win the NC. Who doesn't? I was just lashing out.... throwing a little temper tantrum. Catharsis. I've got to go through this every coaching change, because I, unlike a lot of Tigers fans apparently, am not a cuck. I'm not gonna cower in a corner wishing my S.O. the best on her next "encounter".
You're damned right. My parents raised me to be a bull. Love making the empty, lonely housewives happy.
(12-05-2019 01:29 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote: I like you Geo, but you can do far better than this.
No, I really can't. I feel gut-punched right now.
Money is not the reason Mike leaves. FSU IS a special opportunity.
lol
(12-05-2019 09:32 AM)New Here 101 Wrote: Meh, it ain't about accolades.
It's about money.
Nobody cares if they win a ship or not as long as they are getting paid like they did.
Who would turn down Saban money?
At any school?
(12-05-2019 09:34 AM)New Here 101 Wrote: A coach could go from being a somebody to a 20 million dollar nobody in a matter of 4 or 5 years and never bat an eye.
(12-05-2019 01:46 PM)Stammers Wrote: Throughout this whole thread everyone understands that he doesn't actually want to hire Tommy West. Everyone gets it...except you.
Why in the F are you quoting me? Another Stammers idiot post.
Because he was answering YOU.
ETA: for a further explanation of what he was saying to you, visit post #28.
It's useless trying to explain it to him.
Funny. If you were to take a poll for the dumbest poster to ever come to MT.org you would be at the top of the list.
I know you are too stupid to understand a tongue in cheek comment, but do a google search and try to learn something if it isnt too difficult for you.
You have easily the worst self awareness of anyone on this site. Just in the last day you claimed we had a search committee with a 6 day turnaround between Fuente, Odom and Norvell. You also answered the OP as if he was genuinely asking about West, and the simple format; where you quote someone else's post is too complicated for you.
A normal person would be too embarrassed to keep going.
(12-05-2019 12:04 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote: At this point, I'd like someone who is good enough to sustain 8-9 win seasons, and will not leave us because $4.5million is more than $3.5million. I mean $hit... when is enough enough?
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Tommy West got any coaching life left in him?
