(12-03-2019 03:17 PM)tharmon15 Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 12:38 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 12:10 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  https://www.underdogdynasty.com/2019/12/...valry-week

Or people just need to do some research. Also Aresco needs to be slapped for thinking putting a cross division game as a black friday game was a good idea. If we go back to divisions the month of Novemeber should be off limits for cross division games to prevent repeating championship games. Had Cincy and Memphis played earlier in the year Boise and App would have no shot at this since both would have recovered and likely overtaken Boise and App in the polls. As it is he better hope Cincy stays in front of App and right behind Boise tonight or he will have set us up to get screwed and not by ESPN this time.

That's a **** article when it doesn't even bring up the longest rivalry played.

100-6.

F Houston.

Fun fact: Dr. Phil played on that Tulsa football team that year.

Fun fact Yeoman was a dick and our team had food poisoning

(12-03-2019 03:17 PM)tharmon15 Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 12:38 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 12:10 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  https://www.underdogdynasty.com/2019/12/...valry-week

Or people just need to do some research. Also Aresco needs to be slapped for thinking putting a cross division game as a black friday game was a good idea. If we go back to divisions the month of Novemeber should be off limits for cross division games to prevent repeating championship games. Had Cincy and Memphis played earlier in the year Boise and App would have no shot at this since both would have recovered and likely overtaken Boise and App in the polls. As it is he better hope Cincy stays in front of App and right behind Boise tonight or he will have set us up to get screwed and not by ESPN this time.

That's a **** article when it doesn't even bring up the longest rivalry played.

100-6.

F Houston.

Fun fact: Dr. Phil played on that Tulsa football team that year.

Fun follow up he transferred to SW Missouri St the next season.

Fun fact: Houston came into Tulsa a top 10 team and lost the year before missing out on a bowl when getting one of those really mattered and falling out of the rankings. Yeoman was pissed.

Magically the next year in Houston the Tulsa team got food poisoning and Yeoman ran up the score.

Now 50 years later we're still talking about it all on a conference message board, for a conference that is barely old enough to be a kindergartener. But we don't have rivalries in this conference.

#CoogsSuck
#GlutenFree

(12-03-2019 04:14 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 03:17 PM)tharmon15 Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 12:38 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 12:10 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  https://www.underdogdynasty.com/2019/12/...valry-week

Or people just need to do some research. Also Aresco needs to be slapped for thinking putting a cross division game as a black friday game was a good idea. If we go back to divisions the month of Novemeber should be off limits for cross division games to prevent repeating championship games. Had Cincy and Memphis played earlier in the year Boise and App would have no shot at this since both would have recovered and likely overtaken Boise and App in the polls. As it is he better hope Cincy stays in front of App and right behind Boise tonight or he will have set us up to get screwed and not by ESPN this time.

That's a **** article when it doesn't even bring up the longest rivalry played.

100-6.

F Houston.

Fun fact: Dr. Phil played on that Tulsa football team that year.

Fun follow up he transferred to SW Missouri St the next season.

Fun fact: Houston came into Tulsa a top 10 team and lost the year before missing out on a bowl when getting one of those really mattered and falling out of the rankings. Yeoman was pissed.

Magically the next year in Houston the Tulsa team got food poisoning and Yeoman ran up the score.

Now 50 years later we're still talking about it all on a conference message board, for a conference that is barely old enough to be a kindergartener. But we don't have rivalries in this conference.

#CoogsSuck
#GlutenFree

You are right multiple times Foreveandever,
1. Aresco had no business sceduling a cross divisional game the last wee of the season, that was amateur.

2. Tulsa and Tulane are not rivals in the least.

3. Rivalries are not based on two two evenly matched programs playing one another.


Rivalries are about wanting to beat a certain school more than most others all things being equal and geographic bragging rights.

since the conference is uneven Navy need to sit out rivalry weekend because they will already have a rivalry game vs army. Giving anyone Navy would not be square.

I say in the 11 team format

USF - UCF
ECU - Temple
Cincy - Memphis
SMU - Tulsa
Houston - Tulane

If we go back to 12 and Add divisions then we can look at it again.

(12-03-2019 05:42 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 04:14 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 03:17 PM)tharmon15 Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 12:38 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 12:10 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  https://www.underdogdynasty.com/2019/12/...valry-week

Or people just need to do some research. Also Aresco needs to be slapped for thinking putting a cross division game as a black friday game was a good idea. If we go back to divisions the month of Novemeber should be off limits for cross division games to prevent repeating championship games. Had Cincy and Memphis played earlier in the year Boise and App would have no shot at this since both would have recovered and likely overtaken Boise and App in the polls. As it is he better hope Cincy stays in front of App and right behind Boise tonight or he will have set us up to get screwed and not by ESPN this time.

That's a **** article when it doesn't even bring up the longest rivalry played.

100-6.

F Houston.

Fun fact: Dr. Phil played on that Tulsa football team that year.

Fun follow up he transferred to SW Missouri St the next season.

Fun fact: Houston came into Tulsa a top 10 team and lost the year before missing out on a bowl when getting one of those really mattered and falling out of the rankings. Yeoman was pissed.

Magically the next year in Houston the Tulsa team got food poisoning and Yeoman ran up the score.

Now 50 years later we're still talking about it all on a conference message board, for a conference that is barely old enough to be a kindergartener. But we don't have rivalries in this conference.

#CoogsSuck
#GlutenFree

You are right multiple times Foreveandever,
1. Aresco had no business sceduling a cross divisional game the last wee of the season, that was amateur.

2. Tulsa and Tulane are not rivals in the least.

3. Rivalries are not based on two two evenly matched programs playing one another.


Rivalries are about wanting to beat a certain school more than most others all things being equal and geographic bragging rights.

since the conference is uneven Navy need to sit out rivalry weekend because they will already have a rivalry game vs army. Giving anyone Navy would not be square.

I say in the 11 team format

USF - UCF
ECU - Temple
Cincy - Memphis
SMU - Tulsa
Houston - Tulane

If we go back to 12 and Add divisions then we can look at it again.

Houston and Tulsa can have each other

(12-03-2019 01:37 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 01:27 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  I could see Cincy and Memphis being a thing if they ended up in same division in the 2.0 version.

I agree, I do think having them play the next three years will help. Memphis and UCF seem to have one that is ready to tee up. Memphis and Tulane seems to be building as well. There are some developing for sure, but some came in with the formation of the AAC.

While UCF and Memphis have had some close contests for the conference championship the past few years, I would disagree that anything is ready to be teed up. For a rivalry to exist fans on both sides need to hate each other. Why would a UCF fan hate Memphis? The record between the two is 13-1 in favor of UCF with the only Memphis win almost 30 years ago in their first matchup.

(12-03-2019 06:02 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 05:42 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 04:14 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 03:17 PM)tharmon15 Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 12:38 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Or people just need to do some research. Also Aresco needs to be slapped for thinking putting a cross division game as a black friday game was a good idea. If we go back to divisions the month of Novemeber should be off limits for cross division games to prevent repeating championship games. Had Cincy and Memphis played earlier in the year Boise and App would have no shot at this since both would have recovered and likely overtaken Boise and App in the polls. As it is he better hope Cincy stays in front of App and right behind Boise tonight or he will have set us up to get screwed and not by ESPN this time.

That's a **** article when it doesn't even bring up the longest rivalry played.

100-6.

F Houston.

Fun fact: Dr. Phil played on that Tulsa football team that year.

Fun follow up he transferred to SW Missouri St the next season.

Fun fact: Houston came into Tulsa a top 10 team and lost the year before missing out on a bowl when getting one of those really mattered and falling out of the rankings. Yeoman was pissed.

Magically the next year in Houston the Tulsa team got food poisoning and Yeoman ran up the score.

Now 50 years later we're still talking about it all on a conference message board, for a conference that is barely old enough to be a kindergartener. But we don't have rivalries in this conference.

#CoogsSuck
#GlutenFree

You are right multiple times Foreveandever,
1. Aresco had no business sceduling a cross divisional game the last wee of the season, that was amateur.

2. Tulsa and Tulane are not rivals in the least.

3. Rivalries are not based on two two evenly matched programs playing one another.


Rivalries are about wanting to beat a certain school more than most others all things being equal and geographic bragging rights.

since the conference is uneven Navy need to sit out rivalry weekend because they will already have a rivalry game vs army. Giving anyone Navy would not be square.

I say in the 11 team format

USF - UCF
ECU - Temple
Cincy - Memphis
SMU - Tulsa
Houston - Tulane

If we go back to 12 and Add divisions then we can look at it again.

Houston and Tulsa can have each other

I always thought BC#1 would look better on your arm than Panic anyway

(12-03-2019 06:09 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 01:37 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 01:27 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  I could see Cincy and Memphis being a thing if they ended up in same division in the 2.0 version.

I agree, I do think having them play the next three years will help. Memphis and UCF seem to have one that is ready to tee up. Memphis and Tulane seems to be building as well. There are some developing for sure, but some came in with the formation of the AAC.

While UCF and Memphis have had some close contests for the conference championship the past few years, I would disagree that anything is ready to be teed up. For a rivalry to exist fans on both sides need to hate each other. Why would a UCF fan hate Memphis? The record between the two is 13-1 in favor of UCF with the only Memphis win almost 30 years ago in their first matchup.

I agree, Memphis has to win some. It also helps when those wins have bigger pay offs like the CCG, which is why I said it was ready but not there yet Memphis has to do their part and both have to keep winning overall so the game has meaning. That's also why I said there are some that look ready to form but aren't there yet. We already have some baked in though.

(12-03-2019 03:08 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 01:04 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 12:48 PM)AusTxPony Wrote:  We should have a permanent rivalry week for the last game of the season... each year. I would suggest:
Navy v. Army
UCF v. USF
Houston v. SMU
Cincinnati v Memphis
Tulane v Tulsa
ECU v Temple
Why is this not happening? Maybe this next year?

Because Tulsa and Tulane aren't rivals. Neither are ECU and Temple.

Tulsa's conference rivals: Houston, SMU.

None of those pairings feel like real rivalries. The opposite, feels a lot like UConn UCF "rivalry."

It's not exactly a rivalry, but there is a trophy to be won each year between Navy and SMU. That would be the Gansz Trophy.

UCF and USF huge draw for the conference. Yes, more rivalries need to develop but it takes location or time playing. Has to happen organically.

Houston-Tulsa has history
SMU-Navy has the Gantz trophy

That leaves Memphis-Tulane in the West, assuming we want to avoid cross-divion matchups. Could develop over time given their proximity and Tulane's upward trend. Or maybe when we get back to divisions Cincy and Tulane swap and we get Memphis-Cincy in the West

In the East, the War on I4 is obvious. Not so clear what to do with the others. Maybe once we get a 12th it will sort itself out

(12-03-2019 12:38 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  That's a **** article when it doesn't even bring up the longest rivalry played.

100-6.

F Houston.

100-6?

Doesn't sound like much of a rivalry...

We've got a couple...

(12-03-2019 01:24 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 01:15 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Definitely need to make the last week all divisional games to eliminate the chance that two teams play in the Championship game a week after they met in the regular season.

Well, considering there will be no divisions I don't see that being a true problem. I liked the C-USA days. Especially 2011. Tulsa came into the final week of the season with an 8-3 record (3 losses to ranked OU, OSU, and Boise, but a perfect conference slate). Houston came in ranked #8 with a perfect record. The spot in the championship game was on the line. Even though we lost the game... it was still a huge atmosphere. Tons of cougars traveled to Tulsa, and Tulsa was up for the game as well. We had a near sellout the day after Thanksgiving which is hard to do.

We had a 13-10 game at half before undefeated Houston pulled away in the second half. Then their coach spent the next week interviewing at Texas A&M.

FIFY

Wish ECU was better... the Navy vs the Pirates would be cool. Next time ECU beats Navy I'm posting this:

Tell me adding Air Force doesnt make EVEN more sense when looking at this.

Navy vs Air Force could be Thanksgiving weekend and then Army vs Navy on their normal time slot. Hell of a way to end the year.

Temple has a rivalry problem in that we really don’t have any in football. Basketball vs the Big 5 in Philly are great rivalries though nova has been dominant lately. But in football, the only Big 5 school with football is FCS Villanova. And even though we lost the last one to them it cannot be considered a rivalry because we are on very different levels. We would love to have a rivalry with PSU, but the results have been too one sided historically and they would never debase themselves by calling Temple a rival. As for the American, geography won’t be a factor in creating a rivalry as the closest schools are Cincinnati, Navy and ECU. Navy has a big rivalry already and several lesser ones. The Bearcat fans are way too elitist to consider Temple a rival. ECU could work but there is no organic hatred. Beyond geography, The Florida twins already have their thing. The Texa-homa schools are too remote for a rivalry. Memphis would be a good candidate, both real city schools, up and down histories, we seem to beat each other every time we play. But as noted in an earlier post these things need to be grassroots efforts, can’t force them.

(12-04-2019 12:10 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Tell me adding Air Force doesnt make EVEN more sense when looking at this.

Navy vs Air Force could be Thanksgiving weekend and then Army vs Navy on their normal time slot. Hell of a way to end the year.

I'm not sure how much this would help the perception of the league and may even hurt it tbh. It would be viewed as gimmicky rather than respected football. The service academies are just at too big of a disadvantage. College football isn't going back to the 1950s.

It would be cool but maybe down the road when inclusion to the big boys club is completely off the table. I still have a sliver of hope.

(12-04-2019 12:25 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  

(12-04-2019 12:10 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Tell me adding Air Force doesnt make EVEN more sense when looking at this.

Navy vs Air Force could be Thanksgiving weekend and then Army vs Navy on their normal time slot. Hell of a way to end the year.

I'm not sure how much this would help the perception of the league and may even hurt it tbh. It would be viewed as gimmicky rather than respected football. The service academies are just at too big of a disadvantage. College football isn't going back to the 1950s.

It would be cool but maybe down the road when inclusion to the big boys club is completely off the table. I still have a sliver of hope.

Considering all three Academies are likely to win 10 games in a season in one of the last two years I would say college football isn't going back to the early 1990s.

Is 22-13 really a rivalry?

(12-04-2019 01:57 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Is 22-13 really a rivalry?

Careful... Southern Miss says that about us