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RE: Strong to be fired after War on I-4?
(11-24-2019 10:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
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(11-23-2019 11:22 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  I have a family. If I am bad at my job, I get fired. Charlie Strong is Special?

This was a joke referencing the cruelty of comparing one’s coaching prowess to Larry Porter...or /s

Larry Porter was the worst head coach I have ever seen. He makes Charlie Strong look like Bear Bryant. That said Strong has been a disaster for the Bulls

Porter, a good person and position coach, is the embodiment of the Peter Principle.

It was just too soon for Porter. Not enough experience, too young. I cringed when he was hired because I thought he was in over his head and was being handed a complete trainwreck.

Strong is a program killer when not using the Hugh Freeze method of success.

Ive rarely ever seen a more inept team than the one fielded by USF. I'll regret this but I almost felt sorry for them.

I felt twinges of empathy yesterday. I remember when those were Tiger teams getting crushed. It ain't no fun.
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RE: Strong to be fired after War on I-4?
(11-24-2019 10:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 09:46 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 09:43 AM)Tor Johnson Wrote:  
(11-23-2019 11:32 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  
(11-23-2019 11:22 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  I have a family. If I am bad at my job, I get fired. Charlie Strong is Special?

This was a joke referencing the cruelty of comparing one’s coaching prowess to Larry Porter...or /s

Larry Porter was the worst head coach I have ever seen. He makes Charlie Strong look like Bear Bryant. That said Strong has been a disaster for the Bulls

Porter, a good person and position coach, is the embodiment of the Peter Principle.

It was just too soon for Porter. Not enough experience, too young. I cringed when he was hired because I thought he was in over his head and was being handed a complete trainwreck.

Strong is a program killer when not using the Hugh Freeze method of success.

Ive rarely ever seen a more inept team than the one fielded by USF. I'll regret this but I almost felt sorry for them.

Even though you've seen UConn play the past 4 years?

Thank you for the kind words 04-cheers
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RE: Strong to be fired after War on I-4?
(11-24-2019 10:43 AM)Nameless Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 10:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 09:46 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 09:43 AM)Tor Johnson Wrote:  
(11-23-2019 11:32 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  This was a joke referencing the cruelty of comparing one’s coaching prowess to Larry Porter...or /s

Larry Porter was the worst head coach I have ever seen. He makes Charlie Strong look like Bear Bryant. That said Strong has been a disaster for the Bulls

Porter, a good person and position coach, is the embodiment of the Peter Principle.

It was just too soon for Porter. Not enough experience, too young. I cringed when he was hired because I thought he was in over his head and was being handed a complete trainwreck.

Strong is a program killer when not using the Hugh Freeze method of success.

Ive rarely ever seen a more inept team than the one fielded by USF. I'll regret this but I almost felt sorry for them.

Even though you've seen UConn play the past 4 years?

Thank you for the kind words 04-cheers

I would argue the difference is USF has talent. I honestly thought ECU-USF was a toss-up game going into it, but from a talent perspective, they outmanned us everywhere. Arguably more so than the games against the top teams. USF should not be bad, that's why Strong is a disaster of a coach. You guys are very similar to ECU in that you just don't have very much talent.
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RE: Strong to be fired after War on I-4?
(11-24-2019 10:56 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 10:43 AM)Nameless Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 10:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 09:46 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 09:43 AM)Tor Johnson Wrote:  Larry Porter was the worst head coach I have ever seen. He makes Charlie Strong look like Bear Bryant. That said Strong has been a disaster for the Bulls

Porter, a good person and position coach, is the embodiment of the Peter Principle.

It was just too soon for Porter. Not enough experience, too young. I cringed when he was hired because I thought he was in over his head and was being handed a complete trainwreck.

Strong is a program killer when not using the Hugh Freeze method of success.

Ive rarely ever seen a more inept team than the one fielded by USF. I'll regret this but I almost felt sorry for them.

Even though you've seen UConn play the past 4 years?

Thank you for the kind words 04-cheers

I would argue the difference is USF has talent. I honestly thought ECU-USF was a toss-up game going into it, but from a talent perspective, they outmanned us everywhere. Arguably more so than the games against the top teams. USF should not be bad, that's why Strong is a disaster of a coach. You guys are very similar to ECU in that you just don't have very much talent.

Yea, I can definitely agree with that assessment
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RE: Strong to be fired after War on I-4?
(11-24-2019 10:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 09:46 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 09:43 AM)Tor Johnson Wrote:  
(11-23-2019 11:32 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  
(11-23-2019 11:22 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  I have a family. If I am bad at my job, I get fired. Charlie Strong is Special?

This was a joke referencing the cruelty of comparing one’s coaching prowess to Larry Porter...or /s

Larry Porter was the worst head coach I have ever seen. He makes Charlie Strong look like Bear Bryant. That said Strong has been a disaster for the Bulls

Porter, a good person and position coach, is the embodiment of the Peter Principle.

It was just too soon for Porter. Not enough experience, too young. I cringed when he was hired because I thought he was in over his head and was being handed a complete trainwreck.

Strong is a program killer when not using the Hugh Freeze method of success.

Ive rarely ever seen a more inept team than the one fielded by USF. I'll regret this but I almost felt sorry for them.

Wrong, wrong, wrong! Plenty of people at the age of 40 are not "too young" to be good head coaches. Experience? Plenty have had less experience and done better. Too Soon? How about NEVER! Some people are not meant to be head coaches, and Porter was a prime example of this. He is a recruiter, and nothing more. That's how he is able to hold jobs at major programs.
Also, he did just about everything wrong you could do. He shut himself off from the local media. Dumb. He started FedEx dummy at QB, Dumb. I could go on, but you and I already don't get along, so there is no need to persist.

Go ahead and throw some half witted comment back at me, but everything I just posted about Larry Porter is 100% correct.

I can say that he is legit a nice person, but that doesn't change all of his shortcomings listed above.
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RE: Strong to be fired after War on I-4?
(11-24-2019 11:21 AM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 10:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 09:46 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 09:43 AM)Tor Johnson Wrote:  
(11-23-2019 11:32 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  This was a joke referencing the cruelty of comparing one’s coaching prowess to Larry Porter...or /s

Larry Porter was the worst head coach I have ever seen. He makes Charlie Strong look like Bear Bryant. That said Strong has been a disaster for the Bulls

Porter, a good person and position coach, is the embodiment of the Peter Principle.

It was just too soon for Porter. Not enough experience, too young. I cringed when he was hired because I thought he was in over his head and was being handed a complete trainwreck.

Strong is a program killer when not using the Hugh Freeze method of success.

Ive rarely ever seen a more inept team than the one fielded by USF. I'll regret this but I almost felt sorry for them.

Wrong, wrong, wrong! Plenty of people at the age of 40 are not "too young" to be good head coaches. Experience? Plenty have had less experience and done better. Too Soon? How about NEVER! Some people are not meant to be head coaches, and Porter was a prime example of this. He is a recruiter, and nothing more. That's how he is able to hold jobs at major programs.
Also, he did just about everything wrong you could do. He shut himself off from the local media. Dumb. He started FedEx dummy at QB, Dumb. I could go on, but you and I already don't get along, so there is no need to persist.

Go ahead and throw some half witted comment back at me, but everything I just posted about Larry Porter is 100% correct.

I can say that he is legit a nice person, but that doesn't change all of his shortcomings listed above.

100% correct 03-lmfao whatever voltard.

You know everything. If you were half as correct as you think you are it would be scary. I'm sure he is pleased you consider him a legit nice person. Lulz

If I agree will you just go back to butchugging and volchat and quit bandwagonning the Tigers.

Ps. I apologize if you are truly mentally impaired like from a head injury or something
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RE: Strong to be fired after War on I-4?
(11-23-2019 10:41 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  I doubt he will be fired. Buyout too much, which would delay USF's IPF. His buyout is 5 million which is too much to fire a coach who is above 500.

He will be fired guaranteed, after USF is blown out by UCF. USF will have no choice at that point.

I personally, hope they bring back Taggart. A view that isn't shared by most USF fans.
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RE: Strong to be fired after War on I-4?
(11-24-2019 02:00 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(11-23-2019 10:41 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  I doubt he will be fired. Buyout too much, which would delay USF's IPF. His buyout is 5 million which is too much to fire a coach who is above 500.

He will be fired guaranteed, after USF is blown out by UCF. USF will have no choice at that point.

I personally, hope they bring back Taggart. A view that isn't shared by most USF fans.

I for one hope the hell not. Taggart's not a great coach - he just managed to $core Flowers, who covered up most of his coaching ineptness. Bringing him back would mean we'd once again be an undisciplined team that might win because he got enough talent.

Frankly, I'd rather hire a Tom Allen disciple - the only guy who had our defense playing worth a damn in the Taggart era.

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RE: Strong to be fired after War on I-4?
(11-24-2019 02:00 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(11-23-2019 10:41 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  I doubt he will be fired. Buyout too much, which would delay USF's IPF. His buyout is 5 million which is too much to fire a coach who is above 500.

He will be fired guaranteed, after USF is blown out by UCF. USF will have no choice at that point.

I personally, hope they bring back Taggart. A view that isn't shared by most USF fans.

But definitely shared by your opponents.
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RE: Strong to be fired after War on I-4?
(11-24-2019 10:56 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 10:43 AM)Nameless Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 10:13 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 09:46 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 09:43 AM)Tor Johnson Wrote:  Larry Porter was the worst head coach I have ever seen. He makes Charlie Strong look like Bear Bryant. That said Strong has been a disaster for the Bulls

Porter, a good person and position coach, is the embodiment of the Peter Principle.

It was just too soon for Porter. Not enough experience, too young. I cringed when he was hired because I thought he was in over his head and was being handed a complete trainwreck.

Strong is a program killer when not using the Hugh Freeze method of success.

Ive rarely ever seen a more inept team than the one fielded by USF. I'll regret this but I almost felt sorry for them.

Even though you've seen UConn play the past 4 years?

Thank you for the kind words 04-cheers

I would argue the difference is USF has talent. I honestly thought ECU-USF was a toss-up game going into it, but from a talent perspective, they outmanned us everywhere. Arguably more so than the games against the top teams. USF should not be bad, that's why Strong is a disaster of a coach. You guys are very similar to ECU in that you just don't have very much talent.

Yep. This and USF is worse than when he arrived talent wise
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RE: Strong to be fired after War on I-4?
You should look no further than the the head coach in C-USA that has been to 6 straight bowls counting this year, has won 2 division titles in past 5 years and may not break your bank account for the IPF because I think he is still on your payroll.

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(11-24-2019 05:33 AM)jerrycoog92 Wrote:  How was he successful at Louisville and an utter failure everywhere else ?

Two words...

Teddy. Bridgewater.
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(11-24-2019 02:00 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(11-23-2019 10:41 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  I doubt he will be fired. Buyout too much, which would delay USF's IPF. His buyout is 5 million which is too much to fire a coach who is above 500.

He will be fired guaranteed, after USF is blown out by UCF. USF will have no choice at that point.

I personally, hope they bring back Taggart. A view that isn't shared by most USF fans.

Tags blows. I’d take Skippy back before Slick Willie
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Oh man. This hire has Lane Kiffin written all over it.
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RE: Strong to be fired after War on I-4?
(11-23-2019 10:41 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  I doubt he will be fired. Buyout too much, which would delay USF's IPF. His buyout is 5 million which is too much to fire a coach who is above 500.

If USF wants to go after WT and do FSU a favor, then maybe they could return the favor and supply the $5m needed to fire Charlie Strong. I don’t know if such cooperation exist between 2 ADs.
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RE: Strong to be fired after War on I-4?
(11-23-2019 11:32 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  
(11-23-2019 11:22 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  
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(11-23-2019 10:25 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  This might not be fair. Charlie Strong reminds me of Larry Porter at Memphis. We couldn't figure out a Legal Formation. Larry Porter looked dumbfounded on the Sideline, Charlie Strong has the same clueless look on his face.

Personal attacks of this nature should not be allowed. Charlie has a family

I have a family. If I am bad at my job, I get fired. Charlie Strong is Special?

This was a joke referencing the cruelty of comparing one’s coaching prowess to Larry Porter...or /s

I gotcha.' I apologize, I didn't mean to be overly-sensitive. 04-cheers
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RE: Strong to be fired after War on I-4?
(11-24-2019 06:29 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  
(11-24-2019 02:00 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(11-23-2019 10:41 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  I doubt he will be fired. Buyout too much, which would delay USF's IPF. His buyout is 5 million which is too much to fire a coach who is above 500.

He will be fired guaranteed, after USF is blown out by UCF. USF will have no choice at that point.

I personally, hope they bring back Taggart. A view that isn't shared by most USF fans.

Tags blows. I’d take Skippy back before Slick Willie

You can't be serious. This has to be a joke. I'm going to assume you made a joke. Because, Skip absolutely destroyed USF football. Willie cam in and cleaned up his mess within 2-3 years. Or maybe you forgot that.
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RE: Strong to be fired after War on I-4?
(11-24-2019 06:15 PM)UCF_SystemsEng Wrote:  You should look no further than the the head coach in C-USA that has been to 6 straight bowls counting this year, has won 2 division titles in past 5 years and may not break your bank account for the IPF because I think he is still on your payroll.

I don't know who lied to you, but no former coaches, including Holtz are on USF's payroll. Holtz was paid off like 3 years ago.
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(11-23-2019 10:41 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  I doubt he will be fired. Buyout too much, which would delay USF's IPF. His buyout is 5 million which is too much to fire a coach who is above 500.

$5 Million is just a Fixed Opportunity Cost in the mind of a professional Economist or Financier trying to run a business. It's already spent, it's already gone.

You can keep pouring good money after bad money, or just swallow your lumps and invest in a new product that will generate a Net Present Value greater than $5M.

Memphis literally did it overnight by firing Tubby Smith and hiring Penny Hardaway. We were below 6,000 average attendance mandated by the Memphis Grizzlies to play in the FedEx Forum and paying them $800,000 for falling below their minimum average attendance. Now we're back to 16,000+ crowds. Tubby's Buyout problem solved in one season. It was a Fixed Opportunity Cost to sweep away and move on to run a Financially successful business.
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