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Bad Leadership at our School
Whoever is in charge over there is risking our program by encouraging Penny to play him with this bogus Restraining order that won't make a difference with the NCAA.

We are facing "likely" major Level 1 infractions now. And we are now Appealing? How dumb are we?

We are screwed now. How can we recruit with this now facing post season bans, reduction of scholarships, probation, etc.

What needs to happen now. Drop the appeal. The AD needs to make sure to Sit Wiseman for 20 games. Suspend Penny for 5 games.

Then maybe we can get a favorable ruling and we won't kill our recruiting for the future.

Look, I get it. We were scared with the rumors of wiseman bolting to europe when all this started but we acted stupid and did something no other school would do.
11-20-2019 05:57 PM
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No.
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Forde wrote that for clicks. Wouldn’t be surprised if there is another lawsuit if that’s the case.
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Let it all play out before we jump to conclusions.
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What about the appeal thingy?

OSU appealed and it got reduced. At least that's kind of what I remember.
Maybe someone else remembers exACT numbers.
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(11-20-2019 06:00 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  What about the appeal thingy?

OSU appealed and it got reduced. At least that's kind of what I remember.
Maybe someone else remembers exACT numbers.

appeal will be filed on SATurday.
11-20-2019 06:14 PM
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Wtf... why would they randomly sit him 20 games? Why not just the whole season at that point.
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(11-20-2019 06:00 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  What about the appeal thingy?

OSU appealed and it got reduced. At least that's kind of what I remember.
Maybe someone else remembers exACT numbers.

We're not on the same equal playing field as OSU.
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Why is everyone saying we need to suspend Penny?

Dial it back about 10 notches for Christ's sake
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(11-20-2019 06:00 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  What about the appeal thingy?

OSU appealed and it got reduced. At least that's kind of what I remember.
Maybe someone else remembers exACT numbers.
Ohio State never appealed. The NCAA gave them 2 games. They would have appealed if they gave him more games.
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Our recruiting rivals (inaccurately): "if you sign with Penny, *you* will have to pay the NCAA!!" Smh... inaccurate on several counts, but you know they will argue it.
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(11-20-2019 06:24 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  Why is everyone saying we need to suspend Penny?

Dial it back about 10 notches for Christ's sake

To assert and demonstrate institutional control, probably.
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(11-20-2019 06:31 PM)kabluey Wrote:  
(11-20-2019 06:24 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  Why is everyone saying we need to suspend Penny?

Dial it back about 10 notches for Christ's sake

To assert and demonstrate institutional control, probably.

So we should suspend an innocent man like the NCAA is doing to Wiseman? Good idea. Not.
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Level one rules investigation to begin? What is level one?
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Read the friggin lawsuit!!!!
UofM was a DEFENDANT in the suit, not a PLAINTIFF. They did exactly what the court instructed them to do.
What could the repercussions have been if the UofM VIOLATED the TRO and held JW out from the start of the season?

The mistake was JW dropping the lawsuit that then allowed UofM to hold him out, and the NCAA get a double grip on the schools gonads.

This played out exactly as I figured it would.
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(11-20-2019 06:34 PM)Penny1 Wrote:  
(11-20-2019 06:31 PM)kabluey Wrote:  
(11-20-2019 06:24 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  Why is everyone saying we need to suspend Penny?

Dial it back about 10 notches for Christ's sake

To assert and demonstrate institutional control, probably.

So we should suspend an innocent man like the NCAA is doing to Wiseman? Good idea. Not.

Look, whatever. Aim your argumentative arrows elsewhere bub, I just answered a question. I wasn't "shoulding" anything.
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(11-20-2019 06:31 PM)kabluey Wrote:  
(11-20-2019 06:24 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  Why is everyone saying we need to suspend Penny?

Dial it back about 10 notches for Christ's sake

To assert and demonstrate institutional control, probably.

I don't think so... He wasn't an employee and not really a booster in the sense that he was involved in recruiting for UM at the time the "violation" occurred.
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(11-20-2019 06:34 PM)Penny1 Wrote:  
(11-20-2019 06:31 PM)kabluey Wrote:  
(11-20-2019 06:24 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  Why is everyone saying we need to suspend Penny?

Dial it back about 10 notches for Christ's sake

To assert and demonstrate institutional control, probably.

So we should suspend an innocent man like the NCAA is doing to Wiseman? Good idea. Not.
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(11-20-2019 05:59 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Let it all play out before we jump to conclusions.

That's how we get our exercise around here, jumping to conclusions, flying off the handle, going off the deep end, running people down, making mountains out of molehills, etc.
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(11-20-2019 05:57 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  Whoever is in charge over there is risking our program by encouraging Penny to play him with this bogus Restraining order that won't make a difference with the NCAA.

We are facing "likely" major Level 1 infractions now. And we are now Appealing? How dumb are we?

We are screwed now. How can we recruit with this now facing post season bans, reduction of scholarships, probation, etc.

What needs to happen now. Drop the appeal. The AD needs to make sure to Sit Wiseman for 20 games. Suspend Penny for 5 games.

Then maybe we can get a favorable ruling and we won't kill our recruiting for the future.

Look, I get it. We were scared with the rumors of wiseman bolting to europe when all this started but we acted stupid and did something no other school would do.
One of the dumber posts I've read here.
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