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(11-19-2019 07:37 AM)the_blazerman Wrote:  Ehsan is no different a coach than Haase was. He just has a bit more tougher environment now than Haase had.

The program as a whole started tanking towards the end of Davis' coaching here and certainly dropped quite a bit after Ray Watts' decision in football.

The fact that Haase was able to squeeze an NCAA bid out of it due to a conference tournament championship is the only thing that resembles success that we have seen from Coach Bartow & Anderson.

Lol it dropped quite a bit when Ehsan was hired

(11-19-2019 07:37 AM)the_blazerman Wrote:  Ehsan is no different a coach than Haase was. He just has a bit more tougher environment now than Haase had.

The program as a whole started tanking towards the end of Davis' coaching here and certainly dropped quite a bit after Ray Watts' decision in football.

The fact that Haase was able to squeeze an NCAA bid out of it due to a conference tournament championship is the only thing that resembles success that we have seen from Coach Bartow & Anderson.

Did we not set the program record for wins in a year the very next season under Haase? I’d say that’s a pretty good encore to the tourney bid.

Under Haase we played hard nosed defense and didn’t set our best players up for failure by playing them wildly out of position on offense.
Under Haase we actually set effective screens and did a good job defending them.

Take Eshan out of the equation for a moment. We pay our assistant coaches peanuts. It’s why all of our successful coaches have lost good assistants on an almost yearly basis and a point of contention for every coach we have had since Gene.

Basketball people know who the good coaches are because they recruit against them and compete against them and so it’s pretty easy for good assistants to find higher paying jobs that align with their career goals. Eshan has the same three assistants he hired his first year. I sincerely doubt any of them get a gig on the same or higher level once Eshan is gone.

Am I mistaken, or was Bryant not benched some last year for issues?

I'm not saying Eshan is a good or bad coach, but the man gets paid for winning. The kid gets an education regardless of the number of wins. I highly doubt the coach makes a decision willingly that may result in his own termination. Just my $0.02 and probably not worth that.

(11-18-2019 06:45 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Someone mentioned class. I hope we act that way as boosters and fans.

Ditto. Unfortunately the Gump culture is too well embedded in the state DNA.

Mike Davis and UAB weren’t a great match. Our program was coming off some really good years, based around gimmick ball. He was coming from a Blue Blood(in my opinion). I don’t remember the vibes we had upon the hiring. I was in early teenage years. I know that he played tougher nonconference schedules and he never finished worse than tied-5th(something we are clearly ok with now) in CUSA. He lost his mother in the middle of preseason camp of his final season.

That season had a nonconference slate that included Wichita State, Creighton, VCU, Kent State, Florida, Murry State. Since we like to make excuses for losing key players. We were without Aaron Johnson and Jamarr Sanders following their graduation.

The man had 4 legitimate(yes, we now consider NIT to be that even though so many of us didn’t back then) post season berths in a row in spite of not being able to win a game in the conference tournament. He did constantly try to get hired away but I understand now, how our former players under him, feel we did him dirty compared to the crap we put up with now.

We could do a lot worse than hiring him back.

Mike Davis was fired for off the court reasons

comparing UAB in Davis tenure and Ehsan now is dumb.

like those stupid Xmas week talk shows arguing

Who is Better? the 1985 Bears or the 2019 Pats


who gives a !@#$^

I gave him a lot of crap, but mike Davis was a good coach. Infinitely better than Ehsan. We actually played defense and players got better every year they played under him. No defense or player development under the current coach.. he got fired bc of the off the court stuff and he was completely unable to win post season games.

Ehsan should’ve been gone two years ago, but people kept defending him and making excuses. I pray that the school takes this hiring seriously and uses this to start a complete reboot of the basketball program so it can be on a commensurate level with the football program. No reason whatsoever UAB should settle for where we are currently or have been the past 3-4 years.

It is relevant whether we want to go back that far or not. If he’s gonna take the fall for the downfall of the program, then there should be some perspective.

(11-19-2019 10:56 AM)BlazinBham Wrote:  Mike Davis and UAB weren’t a great match. Our program was coming off some really good years, based around gimmick ball. He was coming from a Blue Blood(in my opinion). I don’t remember the vibes we had upon the hiring. I was in early teenage years. I know that he played tougher nonconference schedules and he never finished worse than tied-5th(something we are clearly ok with now) in CUSA. He lost his mother in the middle of preseason camp of his final season.

That season had a nonconference slate that included Wichita State, Creighton, VCU, Kent State, Florida, Murry State. Since we like to make excuses for losing key players. We were without Aaron Johnson and Jamarr Sanders following their graduation.

The man had 4 legitimate(yes, we now consider NIT to be that even though so many of us didn’t back then) post season berths in a row in spite of not being able to win a game in the conference tournament. He did constantly try to get hired away but I understand now, how our former players under him, feel we did him dirty compared to the crap we put up with now.

We could do a lot worse than hiring him back.

Gimmick ball got Nolan Richardson to the tournament 16 out of 22 years. Gimmick ball got Nolan a couple of sweet 16’s, an elite eight, a final four and a national championship. Gimmick ball got UAB to the tournament 3 out of four years that included a sweet 16 appearance. I would love for UAB to play so called gimmick ball

(11-19-2019 01:21 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(11-19-2019 10:56 AM)BlazinBham Wrote:  Mike Davis and UAB weren’t a great match. Our program was coming off some really good years, based around gimmick ball. He was coming from a Blue Blood(in my opinion). I don’t remember the vibes we had upon the hiring. I was in early teenage years. I know that he played tougher nonconference schedules and he never finished worse than tied-5th(something we are clearly ok with now) in CUSA. He lost his mother in the middle of preseason camp of his final season.

That season had a nonconference slate that included Wichita State, Creighton, VCU, Kent State, Florida, Murry State. Since we like to make excuses for losing key players. We were without Aaron Johnson and Jamarr Sanders following their graduation.

The man had 4 legitimate(yes, we now consider NIT to be that even though so many of us didn’t back then) post season berths in a row in spite of not being able to win a game in the conference tournament. He did constantly try to get hired away but I understand now, how our former players under him, feel we did him dirty compared to the crap we put up with now.

We could do a lot worse than hiring him back.

Gimmick ball got Nolan Richardson to the tournament 16 out of 22 years. Gimmick ball got Nolan a couple of sweet 16’s, an elite eight, a final four and a national championship. Gimmick ball got UAB to the tournament 3 out of four years that included a sweet 16 appearance. I would love for UAB to play so called gimmick ball

Given how soft today’s game is and the fact that defense isn’t allowed to be played and this style will no longer work. That’s why I referred to it as a gimmick. Didn’t mean it as an insult. But since I and all are b1tching about something, guess we can about this, too.

(11-19-2019 01:34 PM)BlazinBham Wrote:  

(11-19-2019 01:21 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(11-19-2019 10:56 AM)BlazinBham Wrote:  Mike Davis and UAB weren’t a great match. Our program was coming off some really good years, based around gimmick ball. He was coming from a Blue Blood(in my opinion). I don’t remember the vibes we had upon the hiring. I was in early teenage years. I know that he played tougher nonconference schedules and he never finished worse than tied-5th(something we are clearly ok with now) in CUSA. He lost his mother in the middle of preseason camp of his final season.

That season had a nonconference slate that included Wichita State, Creighton, VCU, Kent State, Florida, Murry State. Since we like to make excuses for losing key players. We were without Aaron Johnson and Jamarr Sanders following their graduation.

The man had 4 legitimate(yes, we now consider NIT to be that even though so many of us didn’t back then) post season berths in a row in spite of not being able to win a game in the conference tournament. He did constantly try to get hired away but I understand now, how our former players under him, feel we did him dirty compared to the crap we put up with now.

We could do a lot worse than hiring him back.

Gimmick ball got Nolan Richardson to the tournament 16 out of 22 years. Gimmick ball got Nolan a couple of sweet 16’s, an elite eight, a final four and a national championship. Gimmick ball got UAB to the tournament 3 out of four years that included a sweet 16 appearance. I would love for UAB to play so called gimmick ball

Given how soft today’s game is and the fact that defense isn’t allowed to be played and this style will no longer work. That’s why I referred to it as a gimmick. Didn’t mean it as an insult. But since I and all are b1tching about something, guess we can about this, too.

I want "gimmick ball" back

Mike Davis didn't coach the defense only the offense that used to dribble around the 3point line for 33 seconds then jack up a 3 or a contested 2.


you have a man-crush on Donnie Marsh, you just didn't know it.

If anyone cares how Ehsan statistically stacks up to every other coach in UAB history here's something I put together:

(11-19-2019 10:56 AM)BlazinBham Wrote:  Mike Davis and UAB weren’t a great match. Our program was coming off some really good years, based around gimmick ball. He was coming from a Blue Blood(in my opinion). I don’t remember the vibes we had upon the hiring. I was in early teenage years. I know that he played tougher nonconference schedules and he never finished worse than tied-5th(something we are clearly ok with now) in CUSA. He lost his mother in the middle of preseason camp of his final season.

That season had a nonconference slate that included Wichita State, Creighton, VCU, Kent State, Florida, Murry State. Since we like to make excuses for losing key players. We were without Aaron Johnson and Jamarr Sanders following their graduation.

The man had 4 legitimate(yes, we now consider NIT to be that even though so many of us didn’t back then) post season berths in a row in spite of not being able to win a game in the conference tournament. He did constantly try to get hired away but I understand now, how our former players under him, feel we did him dirty compared to the crap we put up with now.

We could do a lot worse than hiring him back.

Can the people who are okay with finishing 5th in this version of CUSA please come out and announce it? I've yet to see one person say that's okay, so unless that is a fact, can we stop spreading it?

Mike Davis had a chance to make some noise yearly because the conference wasn't complete trash. People forget we had Memphis, Tulsa, UCF, a rising Southern Miss, Houston, etc. at the time in conference. The bad games were a couple of random Tulane or Rice or SMU games. Half the conference was consistently in the top 100 or so.

Davis decided not to recruit at the end of his tenure(or go after another grad transfer that failed) and it bit him in the butt. If he could have recruited as well as he coached for us, he would have been extremely succesful and likely hired away for real. But let's not act like he didn't have his flaws when comparing him to the current staff. Davis' time was up, and I feel like Ehsan's is now too.

(11-19-2019 12:08 PM)THE_LEGEND Wrote:  comparing UAB in Davis tenure and Ehsan now is dumb.

like those stupid Xmas week talk shows arguing

Who is Better? the 1985 Bears or the 2019 Pats


who gives a !@#$^

+1

It’s ridiculous now

(11-19-2019 02:35 PM)Auburn_Blazer Wrote:  If anyone cares how Ehsan statistically stacks up to every other coach in UAB history here's something I put together:

The numbers say it all.

(11-19-2019 02:35 PM)Auburn_Blazer Wrote:  If anyone cares how Ehsan statistically stacks up to every other coach in UAB history here's something I put together:

Looks who’s at the bottom guess it didn’t start with Davis but after him. And if I was Davis I would sell myself to other programs too. That’s the only off the court thing I remember. Oops apr which he fixed.

In late August 2007 Sharpe was one of five UAB players arrested for disorderly conduct by Birmingham Police after a fight at Club Red on Highland Avenue. All players were put on a strict curfew, which included no nightclub visits, by coach Mike Davis following the arrests.

This was the year we lost 4 players.

That's not on the court.

Continue trolling away.

(11-19-2019 03:24 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  

(11-19-2019 02:35 PM)Auburn_Blazer Wrote:  If anyone cares how Ehsan statistically stacks up to every other coach in UAB history here's something I put together:

Looks who’s at the bottom guess it didn’t start with Davis but after him. And if I was Davis I would sell myself to other programs too. That’s the only off the court thing I remember. Oops apr which he fixed.

How did Davis average 40 games/year when everyone else is around 33/year?