RE: The American will be a major conference one day
(11-03-2019 08:20 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:
(11-02-2019 11:19 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-02-2019 10:49 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:
(11-02-2019 10:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:
(11-02-2019 10:02 PM)Stay Cool Wrote: Please save us before then.
We suck right now, oh boy do we suck...
But y'all miss my Dr. Who memes, admit it
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Had to take care of the little one, she kinda took precedent. Sleep deprivation and work (luckily they gave me paternity leave for 4 weeks).
First time jitters as a parent, all that jazz. Wouldn't trade it for the world though
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Congrats on your baby girl! My company now gives 4 weeks paternity leave, but I only got one measly day five years ago when my daughter came along.
Girls steal your heart, man. Enjoy every minute.
Paternity leave? Really? What are you guys? GIRLY MEN? When my daughter was born I was Up all night at the hospital until 8 am, and was at work when my shift started at 2 pm.
I only got 8 hours of time off... not exactly a windfall of free time.
In retrospect, I would never work for a company again who didn’t offer a paternity leave. It tells you about how family friendly their corporate culture is. If their attitude is that parenting is just for the women folk, then their culture is stuck in the 1950’s.
RE: The American will be a major conference one day
(11-03-2019 07:45 AM)_C2_ Wrote:
(11-02-2019 11:14 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-02-2019 10:01 PM)_C2_ Wrote: Unless moving to a major conference, hang tight, we have come a long way in 5 years.
I said a MAJOR conference. In all seriousness, the Big East could decline into something like the A-10 t best.
I am not going to say that there isn’t some possible truth to your statement. That said, the AAC could also decline into something like the A-10 at best as well. Once you are outside the P5, there are no guarantees of any sustained level of conference success.
We decided that the right move for us was to go back to a northeastern based conference. Our administration feels that this puts us in a better spot come the next round of realignment (in the unlikely event it happens again). And if there is no more realignment, we at least won’t have nightmarish travel and will get many of our historic basketball rivals back.
With the advent of TV streaming, though, I see a day where football independence becomes more popular again. When the day comes that most games will be streamed, some schools will want to monetize themselves in a way that ensures that they don’t have to share with lesser brands if they are a larger TV draw. For instance, why should UCF and Memphis get paid what Tulsa and Tulane get paid if UCF and Memphis are the games getting streamed by a much larger audience? Why wouldn’t they go it alone for more money. Once enough schools come to the conclusion that independence in football can possibly be more profitable by not sharing with weaker brands, scheduling will open up and bowl contracts will be changed. It won’t work that way for UConn (unless we somehow find a way to win), but I can see a school like UCF trying to control their own destiny and finances should a P5 slot never materialize for them.
RE: The American will be a major conference one day
I hate to be that guy: But NIU has no shot in hell of getting in the American! This is shifting to more of a Southern, south Mid-west, Mid-Atlantic conference. Getting rid of one outlier (though technically on their own terms) does not justify inviting another outlier. I've studied about UNI's potential, and just don't see it. Not a huge appetite for college athletics in that area, outside of BI0 sports. The only schools that have a shot at getting an American bid are Old Dominion, UAB, Southern Miss, and a few others not listed here. I know it sucks being in the MAC, but it is what it is. There was once a time when it was very advantageous to be located where UNI is, but now, the rust belt is just that. And there won't be one school currently in the MAC to ever make it out. Sorry if the words seem disingenuous, but that's the God's honest truth.
(This post was last modified: 11-03-2019 12:38 PM by Coach Bonez89.)
RE: The American will be a major conference one day
(11-03-2019 12:36 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote: I hate to be that guy: But NIU has no shot in hell of getting in the American! This is shifting to more of a Southern, south Mid-west, Mid-Atlantic conference. Getting rid of one outlier (though technically on their own terms) does not justify inviting another outlier. I've studied about UNI's potential, and just don't see it. Not a huge appetite for college athletics in that area, outside of BI0 sports. The only schools that have a shot at getting an American bid are Old Dominion, UAB, Southern Miss, and a few others not listed here. I know it sucks being in the MAC, but it is what it is. There was once a time when it was very advantageous to be located where UNI is, but now, the rust belt is just that. And there won't be one school currently in the MAC to ever make it out. Sorry if the words seem disingenuous, but that's the God's honest truth.
I'm not sure what the University of Northern Iowa has to do with any of this
RE: The American will be a major conference one day
(11-03-2019 11:22 AM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-03-2019 07:45 AM)_C2_ Wrote:
(11-02-2019 11:14 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-02-2019 10:01 PM)_C2_ Wrote: Unless moving to a major conference, hang tight, we have come a long way in 5 years.
I said a MAJOR conference. In all seriousness, the Big East could decline into something like the A-10 t best.
I am not going to say that there isn’t some possible truth to your statement. That said, the AAC could also decline into something like the A-10 at best as well. Once you are outside the P5, there are no guarantees of any sustained level of conference success.
We decided that the right move for us was to go back to a northeastern based conference. Our administration feels that this puts us in a better spot come the next round of realignment (in the unlikely event it happens again). And if there is no more realignment, we at least won’t have nightmarish travel and will get many of our historic basketball rivals back.
With the advent of TV streaming, though, I see a day where football independence becomes more popular again. When the day comes that most games will be streamed, some schools will want to monetize themselves in a way that ensures that they don’t have to share with lesser brands if they are a larger TV draw. For instance, why should UCF and Memphis get paid what Tulsa and Tulane get paid if UCF and Memphis are the games getting streamed by a much larger audience? Why wouldn’t they go it alone for more money. Once enough schools come to the conclusion that independence in football can possibly be more profitable by not sharing with weaker brands, scheduling will open up and bowl contracts will be changed. It won’t work that way for UConn (unless we somehow find a way to win), but I can see a school like UCF trying to control their own destiny and finances should a P5 slot never materialize for them.
There is no way that becoming an independent in football will make you more attractive in the next round of realignment, and the fact that your administration thinks that is indicative of the catastrophic level of mismanagement that brought you to this point. It’s so wrongheaded I can’t possibly think it’s true — Occam’s Razor is actually that they just gave up on the P5 thing, but don’t want to say so.
RE: The American will be a major conference one day
(11-03-2019 08:20 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:
(11-02-2019 11:19 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-02-2019 10:49 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:
(11-02-2019 10:40 PM)shere khan Wrote:
(11-02-2019 10:02 PM)Stay Cool Wrote: Please save us before then.
We suck right now, oh boy do we suck...
But y'all miss my Dr. Who memes, admit it
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Stay cool. Were you been mane
Had to take care of the little one, she kinda took precedent. Sleep deprivation and work (luckily they gave me paternity leave for 4 weeks).
First time jitters as a parent, all that jazz. Wouldn't trade it for the world though
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Congrats on your baby girl! My company now gives 4 weeks paternity leave, but I only got one measly day five years ago when my daughter came along.
Girls steal your heart, man. Enjoy every minute.
Paternity leave? Really? What are you guys? GIRLY MEN? When my daughter was born I was Up all night at the hospital until 8 am, and was at work when my shift started at 2 pm.
Lol I never got why some people brag about having it bad. Even the Army gets 21 days.
RE: The American will be a major conference one day
(11-03-2019 11:22 AM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-03-2019 07:45 AM)_C2_ Wrote:
(11-02-2019 11:14 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-02-2019 10:01 PM)_C2_ Wrote: Unless moving to a major conference, hang tight, we have come a long way in 5 years.
I said a MAJOR conference. In all seriousness, the Big East could decline into something like the A-10 t best.
I am not going to say that there isn’t some possible truth to your statement. That said, the AAC could also decline into something like the A-10 at best as well. Once you are outside the P5, there are no guarantees of any sustained level of conference success.
We decided that the right move for us was to go back to a northeastern based conference. Our administration feels that this puts us in a better spot come the next round of realignment (in the unlikely event it happens again). And if there is no more realignment, we at least won’t have nightmarish travel and will get many of our historic basketball rivals back.
With the advent of TV streaming, though, I see a day where football independence becomes more popular again. When the day comes that most games will be streamed, some schools will want to monetize themselves in a way that ensures that they don’t have to share with lesser brands if they are a larger TV draw. For instance, why should UCF and Memphis get paid what Tulsa and Tulane get paid if UCF and Memphis are the games getting streamed by a much larger audience? Why wouldn’t they go it alone for more money. Once enough schools come to the conclusion that independence in football can possibly be more profitable by not sharing with weaker brands, scheduling will open up and bowl contracts will be changed. It won’t work that way for UConn (unless we somehow find a way to win), but I can see a school like UCF trying to control their own destiny and finances should a P5 slot never materialize for them.
I see it the other way around. As an SMU fan I follow SMU's games, but also follow American games. If Memphis is playing UCF I'll watch because they are in SMU's conference. If Memphis or UCF were independent, I probably wouldn't watch that game. I think UConn will probably be happy to be back in the Big East, but it is also possible they will greatly regret their decision to leave the American when it gains status as a true P6 with automatic bid to a New Year's 6 Bowl and when the tv contract is up and we finally sign for big money.
RE: The American will be a major conference one day
I don’t think the existing Power conferences will allow that. Once a program or 2 separates itself as “big time”/“a threat”, the B12 et al will grab them. Any team here will accept it as the money gap is too wide.
RE: The American will be a major conference one day
(11-03-2019 08:08 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote: I don’t think the existing Power conferences will allow that. Once a program or 2 separates itself as “big time”/“a threat”, the B12 et al will grab them. Any team here will accept it as the money gap is too wide.
Have to disagree. The Big12-2 will do nothing unless UT, Oklahoma, or ESPiN will want that to happen, and that seems unlikely at this time.
RE: The American will be a major conference one day
(11-03-2019 11:22 AM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-03-2019 07:45 AM)_C2_ Wrote:
(11-02-2019 11:14 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: [quote='_C2_' pid='16419718' dateline='1572750092']
Unless moving to a major conference, hang tight, we have come a long way in 5 years.
In all seriousness, the Big East could decline into something like the A-10 at best.
I am not going to say that there isn’t some possible truth to your statement. That said, the AAC could also decline into something like the A-10 at best as well.
Once you are outside the P5, there are no guarantees of any sustained level of conference success.
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Could the Big East or AAC "decline to the A-10" "at best?" If you're suggesting that the Big East could fall behind the A-10, that might conceivably be possible, but it seems unlikely to happen in the foreseeable future. Until the A-10 can start to place 3 teams in the NCAA tournament, as they once did, the A-10 may not be able to achieve full parity with the BE or AAC.
The BE is predicted to be stronger this season, and the overall talent level of the AAC appears to be on an upswing, so any suggestions of their impending demise would seem to be "premature," to paraphrase Mark Twain.
p.s. Even in the P5 (FB & BB), there are no guarantees of conference success, as we've seen in 2019.
(This post was last modified: 11-03-2019 10:57 PM by jedclampett.)
RE: The American will be a major conference one day
(11-03-2019 08:08 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote: I don’t think the existing Power conferences will allow that. Once a program or 2 separates itself as “big time”/“a threat”, the B12 et al will grab them. Any team here will accept it as the money gap is too wide.
We've already done that. UCF, Cincy, Memphis are already there on fan support and performance, and Houston, SMU, Navy, Temple, and USF are all getting there. By the time the next time conference realignment rolls around in 2022-2024 the conference may be too strong to be poached. Demographics are realigning football popularity away from the west coast towards the southeast and Midwest. At that point, who is ESPN going to choose? The PAC-xx or the AAC?
RE: The American will be a major conference one day
(11-04-2019 11:24 AM)bullsbucsfan426 Wrote:
(11-03-2019 08:08 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote: I don’t think the existing Power conferences will allow that. Once a program or 2 separates itself as “big time”/“a threat”, the B12 et al will grab them. Any team here will accept it as the money gap is too wide.
We've already done that. UCF, Cincy, Memphis are already there on fan support and performance, and Houston, SMU, Navy, Temple, and USF are all getting there. By the time the next time conference realignment rolls around in 2022-2024 the conference may be too strong to be poached. Demographics are realigning football popularity away from the west coast towards the southeast and Midwest. At that point, who is ESPN going to choose? The PAC-xx or the AAC?
RE: The American will be a major conference one day
(11-04-2019 11:29 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:
(11-04-2019 11:24 AM)bullsbucsfan426 Wrote:
(11-03-2019 08:08 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote: I don’t think the existing Power conferences will allow that. Once a program or 2 separates itself as “big time”/“a threat”, the B12 et al will grab them. Any team here will accept it as the money gap is too wide.
We've already done that. UCF, Cincy, Memphis are already there on fan support and performance, and Houston, SMU, Navy, Temple, and USF are all getting there. By the time the next time conference realignment rolls around in 2022-2024 the conference may be too strong to be poached. Demographics are realigning football popularity away from the west coast towards the southeast and Midwest. At that point, who is ESPN going to choose? The PAC-xx or the AAC?
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As crazy as this sounds, this might be true.
That would be great, but without the $$$ I don’t see it. The gap is too wide on finances. Why create a P6 if you are Disney by giving a $10M raise to 10 teams? Why allow a P6 if you are part of the P5 by giving up voting power, and letting another conference in one of “your” bowls when you can grab 2-3 teams and put them into existing conferences and keep the status quo? TV wants a P5, not 6. Major conferences want 5 not 6. They hold the cards
When we become a real threat, and we are close to that now, we will get poached. Not a school will turn it down and the P5 structure won’t allow a true P6.
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