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Elderly Vet Has Guns Seized After Criticizing School Resource Officer
Quote:An 84-year-old veteran of the Korean war who also served as a police officer for decades was relieved of his job as a crossing guard and had his guns seized after criticizing a school resource officer (SRO) for allegedly leaving his post during school hours.

Stephen Nichols, who worked as a crossing guard in Tisbury, Massachusetts, was eating at Linda Jean’s restaurant in Oak Bluff and speaking with another patron when a waitress reportedly overheard part of their conversation. As the MV Times reported, Nichols said he was discussing the SRO’s alleged visits to Xtra Mart to get coffee when children came to school in the morning. Nichols said that he told his friend that someone could “shoot up the school” as the SRO was “leaving his post.”

Nichols, who was a Morse Code specialist for the U.S. Army, told the MV Times, “When I was in the U.S. Army, and it wasn’t just me, it’s anybody who’s in the U.S. service, if you are on guard duty for eight hours, you didn’t leave that position. … And I’m just so accustomed to that, that when I see someone who’s supposed to be protecting kids … leave the school unguarded — if you’re on guard duty, you stay there.”

The waitress reported Nichols to the police two days later, prompting Police Chief Mark Saloio and another police officer to relieve Nichols from working as a crossing guard while he was at the job , then going to Nichols’ home and confiscating his firearms license and guns, as the MV Times reported.

Nichols, who said he has been licensed for firearms for over 60 years, told the MV Times that Saloio “told me to hand [the firearm license] over so I took it out of my wallet and handed it to him,” adding that no paperwork was given to him regarding the stripping of his firearms.

Linda Jean’s owner Marc Hanover, who said he’s known Nichols for decades, called the events “absolutely outrageous,” adding that his waitress “overreacted.” Hanover also spoke with Andy Marcus, who was the person Nichols had conversed with, and said Marcus “assured me there was never a threat made.” Marcus called the affair “absurd,” adding that Nichols never threatened the school and that no other employee at the restaurant thought Nichols was threatening the school. Noting that Nichols was a veteran police officer and constable, he concluded, “He loves kids. It’s almost like of all the people … ”

Nichols, a widower for two years who has 11 grandchildren and 11 great grandchildren, concluded, “I would never, ever, ever, harm a child … I just need something to do to get out of the house and I love the kids.

Saloio met with Nichols on Columbus Day to offer his job as a crossing guard back to him. NRAILA reported that an attorney who represents Nichols told the MV Times that Nichols intended to file an appeal to secure the return of his firearms. NRAILA continued, “Meanwhile, Nichols was informed that his grandson, who manages a Worcester gun shop, is ‘going to be allowed to come down and take the weapons and sell them for me.’ As it stands, Nichols has yet to receive his license or firearms back.”

NRAILA added, “Because there was no proven justification for depriving Nichols of his legally owned firearms, commentators are citing the situation as a cautionary tale against ‘red flag’ firearm seizure laws.”

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You just have to demonstrate wrong think, or say something that can be misrepresented by another, and it's justification to confiscate your weapons. It's so sad that this is an end run around due process and the 2nd amendment.

Mean neighbors, mean coworkers, mean relatives, ex-wives, and now nosy waitresses. Oh, these red flag laws will work so well.

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ. Its that simple.
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Here is a post about a United States citizen being stripped of his Constitutional rights with ZERO due process and mine is the first reply?


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Nichols should sue them big time. He's right, a guard should never leave his post. I know of a guard during my time in Thailand where his boss caught him napping and was executed on the spot. That's because it's a major no-no.
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Geez.. he makes a comment because he's LOOKING OUT FOR THE KIDS, and they go after him???

Kap's right... this is a COMPLETE and total violation of the 2nd amendment, and there needs to be a huge shitstorm about this one.
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if there was ever a relevant fast track to the SCOTUS, this would be it....

I'd sue the shite out of the city to kickstart that heart....
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(10-30-2019 07:17 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Geez.. he makes a comment because he's LOOKING OUT FOR THE KIDS, and they go after him???

Kap's right... this is a COMPLETE and total violation of the 2nd amendment, and there needs to be a huge shitstorm about this one.

Beyond the 2nd amendment, its a total violation of his civil rights (at least given what info we have in this story).
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(10-30-2019 07:17 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Geez.. he makes a comment because he's LOOKING OUT FOR THE KIDS, and they go after him???

Kap's right... this is a COMPLETE and total violation of the 2nd amendment, and there needs to be a huge shitstorm about this one.

His Constitutional rights were violated multiple times.

His Second Amendment rights were violated when they took away his firearms.

His Fourth Amendment rights were violated when they unreasonably seized his property.

His Fifth Amendment rights were violated when they did not provide him due process prior to violating his rights.
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(10-30-2019 08:15 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(10-30-2019 07:17 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Geez.. he makes a comment because he's LOOKING OUT FOR THE KIDS, and they go after him???

Kap's right... this is a COMPLETE and total violation of the 2nd amendment, and there needs to be a huge shitstorm about this one.

His Constitutional rights were violated multiple times.

His Second Amendment rights were violated when they took away his firearms.

His Fourth Amendment rights were violated when they unreasonably seized his property.

His Fifth Amendment rights were violated when they did not provide him due process prior to violating his rights.

^^^^ #theHammer
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(10-30-2019 08:59 AM)ummechengr Wrote:  Reinstated

this was a gimme putt....

Quote:Dan Larkosh of the Edgartown firm Larkosh and Jackson represents Nichols. He said he is pleased Nichols was reinstated. Nevertheless, he intends to file an appeal of the decision by Tisbury Police Chief Mark Saloio to seize guns owned by Nichols, as well as his license to carry. Larkosh said his firm has received repeated offers to contribute to Nichols’ legal costs, including from some national organizations.
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(10-30-2019 08:59 AM)ummechengr Wrote:  Reinstated

That's part of it resolved... now does he gets his weapons back from the city and whomever has them at the moment and his license reinstated?
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