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RE: OT: CA passes ‘Fair Pay To Play’ Act
Yeah Rod is a good opinion to hear on this topic.
11-08-2019 04:37 PM
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RE: OT: CA passes ‘Fair Pay To Play’ Act
(11-07-2019 11:58 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  I honestly don't think money in the pocket of Athletic-Students will not change the game drastically. For example , in 2008 of Rodney Landers wanted to run a football camp he would have been able to profit off of it in Harrisonburg. Y'all forget that towns like Harrisonburg love their Athletic Students just the same as the P-5 conferences. Or just allowing athletes to work camps during the summer for money from these million dollar coaches would help as well. If it wasn't for Pell Grant I wouldn't have been able to afford to send my brother money back home so he could eat and have clothes to wear.

And if these Athletes should be making a decision based on education and not football they shouldn't allow FB coaches to recruit them and offer them scholarships before they are even accepted. Let athletes make the choice without being pressured by coaches who can leave when they are offered a "better" opportunity.

Thank you HotRod. That angle doesn't get discussed enough and has cost athletes, money/opportunities. Also, for everyone assuming this only benefits the big schools, I'm not entirely sure and think it could be sport-dependent. In any case, we all can guarantee there will be unintended, and unforeseen, consequences, down the road.

For example, while the money from the return of an EA Sports Football/Basketball game could be enough to encourage most athletes in those sports to go to schools where that is paid out because their team is featured in the game, what about the other sports?? In a sport like Softball, for example, I wonder if even more local stars might go somewhere like JMU instead of [insert random SEC/PAC12 school here]. The car dealership in Tuscaloosa or Tuscon, or for that matter Westwood/LA ain't hiring the softball pitcher when the nickel corner or the sixth man is a bigger deal in those towns. But at JMU, the "hypothetical" star local upperclass pitcher from Softball might be much better positioned than almost anyone in town to benefit. In turn, if you're Gonzaga hoops or JMU Softball or Bemidji St. hockey or Hopkins lax now you might have even more incentive to double-down on a successful sport that becomes your niche and suddenly be able to out-recruit schools you only dreamed of in that niche sport since the others have a lot more hands in the pot.

And let's say the EA Sports money doesn't turn out all that great. If you're EA, and now you have to pay something to 1000+ people every time you crank out a new edition, maybe you make the game P5 only, or maybe you decide the juice just ain't worth the squeeze at all as one of the things that made the games so fun was being able to play with so many schools and build out your favorite team. In that case, where does a "hypothetical" Wide Receiver stand to gain more - making 10 grabs a year at a B1G school or being an absolute star at an FCS school in a small-town with a devoted market?

I'm as cynical as anyone about who this will benefit, but I just think there are a whole bunch of unknowns. And the one thing that is known is that if the NCAA can find a way to do something stupid that makes even their "big" members unhappy, they will.
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11-08-2019 04:49 PM
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RE: OT: CA passes ‘Fair Pay To Play’ Act
(10-30-2019 10:20 AM)RamDawg Wrote:  
(10-30-2019 09:45 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(10-30-2019 07:06 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  
(10-29-2019 07:55 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Like I said earlier in this thread, at least the current charade of ‘student athletes’ for the Professional 5 Conferences can end. Let the bulk of G5/I-AA/Div II/Div III have the real student athletes, and the P5 be the professional athletes, students in name only..

An article I read suggested this may include/filter down to all levels and programs in the NCAA. Don’t be surprised if it even happens to some degree with DIII softball. Think it said they will finalize the rules by 2021, so we have maybe one year before everything is set and it kicks in. Seems it is not limited to P5 football though.

99% of the $$ is going to flow to P5 football & its basketball equivalent. Its not going to Div III softball lol..

Agree, what a student athlete may see at a school like JMU is minimal, maybe a few bucks from Jersey sales. Recruits are going to be making choices based on where they can get the most exposure. Number of games shown on TV may become a priority for some seeking to cash in. The gap between student and athlete just became much greater.

There are a whole lot of questions that need to be answered in the next few years. Will we see athletes putting themselves first and the team second? A big one for me is; why should I donate $10,000 to help pay for a student-athletes education when the players on that same basketball team are signing $100,000 shoe deals and getting a free education Most supporters donate the athletics program. Will we see more people requesting their donations go to specific sports?


1. You should have a choice to where your money goes exactly.
2. Your donation helps the University and not the player. That player is still going to receive that scholarship whether you donate that 10k or not. And if a athlete is getting an 100k shoe deal he must be a helluva player and that education surely isn't free. And I'm would be happy that they are playing for the Dukes lol.
11-09-2019 08:07 AM
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