Quote:The senators who recanted their initial support for former Minnesota senator Al Franken's resignation remained silent as a ninth woman has stepped forward to say that the ex-Democratic senator groped her without consent.

An anonymous veteran who also worked as a Democratic Senate staffer on Monday became the ninth woman to accuse Franken of unwanted touching or kissing. The newest allegation comes after the New Yorker‘s Jane Mayer suggested in July in "The Case of Al Franken" that 36 Democratic senators were wrong to demand Franken's resignation after the first 8 allegations.

The woman told New York Magazine that the comedian intentionally groped her buttocks during a 2006 photo-op.

"He puts his hand on my ass. He’s telling the photographer, ‘Take another one. I think I blinked. Take another one.’ And I’m just frozen," she said. "It’s so violating. And then he gives me a little squeeze on my buttock, and I am bright red. I don’t say anything at the time, but I felt deeply, deeply uncomfortable."

Mayer argued over the course of 12,000 words that Franken's first accuser, Leann Tweeden, was a politically motivated conservative who schemed with talk show hosts to go after the liberal senator. She blamed the other seven incidents on Franken's lack of coordination and warm demeanor, pointing out that he "could be physically obtuse." She quoted Franken and his supporters making the case that the disgraced ex-senator was "sort of clumsy," "a very physical person," "a warm, tactile person," and a "social—not a sexual—'lip-kisser.'"

Five of the sitting senators who publicly supported Franken's resignation in 2017 told Mayer that they regretted their public statements. "If there’s one decision I’ve made that I would take back, it’s the decision to call for his resignation," Tammy Duckworth (D., Ill.) said. Tom Udall (D., N.M.) said he "made a mistake," while Patrick Leahy (D., Vt.) called it "one of the biggest mistakes I’ve made" in his forty-five years in the Senate. Angus King (I., Maine) called Franken's resignation "the political equivalent of capital punishment" and Jeff Merkley (D., Ore.) said, "in my heart, I’ve not felt right about it."

None of the senators commented publicly on the newest allegation or responded by press time to emails asking whether they stood by their belief that they erred in calling for Franken's resignation. Prominent Democratic megadonor Susie Tompkins Buell, who renounced support for any Democrats who ousted Franken, also did not respond to a request for comment. A representative for former senator Heidi Heitkamp (D., N.D.)—who called her support for Franken's resignation the "one decision" she would take back—initially responded to an emailed request for comment, but went silent after being asked about Franken.

While her New Yorker piece was framed as a detached assessment of the evidence, Mayer's social media posts were more vocal in their support for Franken. "How Al Franken got railroaded," Mayer tweeted.

How @alfranken got railroaded: my story here https://t.co/zNzRMPRoa2

— Jane Mayer (@JaneMayerNYer) July 22, 2019

"How about this," she also tweeted before Franken's resignation, "Dems will consider Al Franken resigning if Trump resigns first?"

How about this: Dems will consider Al Franken resigning if Trump resigns first?

— Jane Mayer (@JaneMayerNYer) November 22, 2017

Mayer's piece prompted criticism even from many liberals. Vox‘s Matt Yglesias wrote that "the substance of Franken’s post-resignation retroactive defense is—despite the extraordinary length of Mayer’s exposition—incredibly simple to sum up: What he did just wasn’t that bad."

Mayer also maintained radio silence following the newest allegation. She did not respond to a request for comment by press time, or answer whether it was still her belief that Franken was "railroaded."

Link

(10-01-2019 12:30 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:The senators who recanted their initial support for former Minnesota senator Al Franken's resignation remained silent as a ninth woman has stepped forward to say that the ex-Democratic senator groped her without consent.

An anonymous veteran who also worked as a Democratic Senate staffer on Monday became the ninth woman to accuse Franken of unwanted touching or kissing. The newest allegation comes after the New Yorker‘s Jane Mayer suggested in July in "The Case of Al Franken" that 36 Democratic senators were wrong to demand Franken's resignation after the first 8 allegations.

The woman told New York Magazine that the comedian intentionally groped her buttocks during a 2006 photo-op.

"He puts his hand on my ass. He’s telling the photographer, ‘Take another one. I think I blinked. Take another one.’ And I’m just frozen," she said. "It’s so violating. And then he gives me a little squeeze on my buttock, and I am bright red. I don’t say anything at the time, but I felt deeply, deeply uncomfortable."

Mayer argued over the course of 12,000 words that Franken's first accuser, Leann Tweeden, was a politically motivated conservative who schemed with talk show hosts to go after the liberal senator. She blamed the other seven incidents on Franken's lack of coordination and warm demeanor, pointing out that he "could be physically obtuse." She quoted Franken and his supporters making the case that the disgraced ex-senator was "sort of clumsy," "a very physical person," "a warm, tactile person," and a "social—not a sexual—'lip-kisser.'"

Five of the sitting senators who publicly supported Franken's resignation in 2017 told Mayer that they regretted their public statements. "If there’s one decision I’ve made that I would take back, it’s the decision to call for his resignation," Tammy Duckworth (D., Ill.) said. Tom Udall (D., N.M.) said he "made a mistake," while Patrick Leahy (D., Vt.) called it "one of the biggest mistakes I’ve made" in his forty-five years in the Senate. Angus King (I., Maine) called Franken's resignation "the political equivalent of capital punishment" and Jeff Merkley (D., Ore.) said, "in my heart, I’ve not felt right about it."

None of the senators commented publicly on the newest allegation or responded by press time to emails asking whether they stood by their belief that they erred in calling for Franken's resignation. Prominent Democratic megadonor Susie Tompkins Buell, who renounced support for any Democrats who ousted Franken, also did not respond to a request for comment. A representative for former senator Heidi Heitkamp (D., N.D.)—who called her support for Franken's resignation the "one decision" she would take back—initially responded to an emailed request for comment, but went silent after being asked about Franken.

While her New Yorker piece was framed as a detached assessment of the evidence, Mayer's social media posts were more vocal in their support for Franken. "How Al Franken got railroaded," Mayer tweeted.

How @alfranken got railroaded: my story here https://t.co/zNzRMPRoa2

— Jane Mayer (@JaneMayerNYer) July 22, 2019

"How about this," she also tweeted before Franken's resignation, "Dems will consider Al Franken resigning if Trump resigns first?"

How about this: Dems will consider Al Franken resigning if Trump resigns first?

— Jane Mayer (@JaneMayerNYer) November 22, 2017

Mayer's piece prompted criticism even from many liberals. Vox‘s Matt Yglesias wrote that "the substance of Franken’s post-resignation retroactive defense is—despite the extraordinary length of Mayer’s exposition—incredibly simple to sum up: What he did just wasn’t that bad."

Mayer also maintained radio silence following the newest allegation. She did not respond to a request for comment by press time, or answer whether it was still her belief that Franken was "railroaded."

Link

So, Republicans get one alleged grope before being stoned, but Democrats get 9 actual gropes before being forgotten. But there is no double standard right???? I guess Women's rights don't apply to Democrats anymore than actual guilt applies to some minorities.

(10-01-2019 12:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-01-2019 12:30 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:The senators who recanted their initial support for former Minnesota senator Al Franken's resignation remained silent as a ninth woman has stepped forward to say that the ex-Democratic senator groped her without consent.

An anonymous veteran who also worked as a Democratic Senate staffer on Monday became the ninth woman to accuse Franken of unwanted touching or kissing. The newest allegation comes after the New Yorker‘s Jane Mayer suggested in July in "The Case of Al Franken" that 36 Democratic senators were wrong to demand Franken's resignation after the first 8 allegations.

The woman told New York Magazine that the comedian intentionally groped her buttocks during a 2006 photo-op.

"He puts his hand on my ass. He’s telling the photographer, ‘Take another one. I think I blinked. Take another one.’ And I’m just frozen," she said. "It’s so violating. And then he gives me a little squeeze on my buttock, and I am bright red. I don’t say anything at the time, but I felt deeply, deeply uncomfortable."

Mayer argued over the course of 12,000 words that Franken's first accuser, Leann Tweeden, was a politically motivated conservative who schemed with talk show hosts to go after the liberal senator. She blamed the other seven incidents on Franken's lack of coordination and warm demeanor, pointing out that he "could be physically obtuse." She quoted Franken and his supporters making the case that the disgraced ex-senator was "sort of clumsy," "a very physical person," "a warm, tactile person," and a "social—not a sexual—'lip-kisser.'"

Five of the sitting senators who publicly supported Franken's resignation in 2017 told Mayer that they regretted their public statements. "If there’s one decision I’ve made that I would take back, it’s the decision to call for his resignation," Tammy Duckworth (D., Ill.) said. Tom Udall (D., N.M.) said he "made a mistake," while Patrick Leahy (D., Vt.) called it "one of the biggest mistakes I’ve made" in his forty-five years in the Senate. Angus King (I., Maine) called Franken's resignation "the political equivalent of capital punishment" and Jeff Merkley (D., Ore.) said, "in my heart, I’ve not felt right about it."

None of the senators commented publicly on the newest allegation or responded by press time to emails asking whether they stood by their belief that they erred in calling for Franken's resignation. Prominent Democratic megadonor Susie Tompkins Buell, who renounced support for any Democrats who ousted Franken, also did not respond to a request for comment. A representative for former senator Heidi Heitkamp (D., N.D.)—who called her support for Franken's resignation the "one decision" she would take back—initially responded to an emailed request for comment, but went silent after being asked about Franken.

While her New Yorker piece was framed as a detached assessment of the evidence, Mayer's social media posts were more vocal in their support for Franken. "How Al Franken got railroaded," Mayer tweeted.

How @alfranken got railroaded: my story here https://t.co/zNzRMPRoa2

— Jane Mayer (@JaneMayerNYer) July 22, 2019

"How about this," she also tweeted before Franken's resignation, "Dems will consider Al Franken resigning if Trump resigns first?"

How about this: Dems will consider Al Franken resigning if Trump resigns first?

— Jane Mayer (@JaneMayerNYer) November 22, 2017

Mayer's piece prompted criticism even from many liberals. Vox‘s Matt Yglesias wrote that "the substance of Franken’s post-resignation retroactive defense is—despite the extraordinary length of Mayer’s exposition—incredibly simple to sum up: What he did just wasn’t that bad."

Mayer also maintained radio silence following the newest allegation. She did not respond to a request for comment by press time, or answer whether it was still her belief that Franken was "railroaded."

Link

So, Republicans get one alleged grope before being stoned, but Democrats get 9 actual gropes before being forgotten. But there is no double standard right???? I guess Women's rights don't apply to Democrats anymore than actual guilt applies to some minorities.

You got it JR... Weird right.. It's like if you're not part of a certain party you're always guilty of something.

(10-01-2019 12:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-01-2019 12:30 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:The senators who recanted their initial support for former Minnesota senator Al Franken's resignation remained silent as a ninth woman has stepped forward to say that the ex-Democratic senator groped her without consent.

An anonymous veteran who also worked as a Democratic Senate staffer on Monday became the ninth woman to accuse Franken of unwanted touching or kissing. The newest allegation comes after the New Yorker‘s Jane Mayer suggested in July in "The Case of Al Franken" that 36 Democratic senators were wrong to demand Franken's resignation after the first 8 allegations.

The woman told New York Magazine that the comedian intentionally groped her buttocks during a 2006 photo-op.

"He puts his hand on my ass. He’s telling the photographer, ‘Take another one. I think I blinked. Take another one.’ And I’m just frozen," she said. "It’s so violating. And then he gives me a little squeeze on my buttock, and I am bright red. I don’t say anything at the time, but I felt deeply, deeply uncomfortable."

Mayer argued over the course of 12,000 words that Franken's first accuser, Leann Tweeden, was a politically motivated conservative who schemed with talk show hosts to go after the liberal senator. She blamed the other seven incidents on Franken's lack of coordination and warm demeanor, pointing out that he "could be physically obtuse." She quoted Franken and his supporters making the case that the disgraced ex-senator was "sort of clumsy," "a very physical person," "a warm, tactile person," and a "social—not a sexual—'lip-kisser.'"

Five of the sitting senators who publicly supported Franken's resignation in 2017 told Mayer that they regretted their public statements. "If there’s one decision I’ve made that I would take back, it’s the decision to call for his resignation," Tammy Duckworth (D., Ill.) said. Tom Udall (D., N.M.) said he "made a mistake," while Patrick Leahy (D., Vt.) called it "one of the biggest mistakes I’ve made" in his forty-five years in the Senate. Angus King (I., Maine) called Franken's resignation "the political equivalent of capital punishment" and Jeff Merkley (D., Ore.) said, "in my heart, I’ve not felt right about it."

None of the senators commented publicly on the newest allegation or responded by press time to emails asking whether they stood by their belief that they erred in calling for Franken's resignation. Prominent Democratic megadonor Susie Tompkins Buell, who renounced support for any Democrats who ousted Franken, also did not respond to a request for comment. A representative for former senator Heidi Heitkamp (D., N.D.)—who called her support for Franken's resignation the "one decision" she would take back—initially responded to an emailed request for comment, but went silent after being asked about Franken.

While her New Yorker piece was framed as a detached assessment of the evidence, Mayer's social media posts were more vocal in their support for Franken. "How Al Franken got railroaded," Mayer tweeted.

How @alfranken got railroaded: my story here https://t.co/zNzRMPRoa2

— Jane Mayer (@JaneMayerNYer) July 22, 2019

"How about this," she also tweeted before Franken's resignation, "Dems will consider Al Franken resigning if Trump resigns first?"

How about this: Dems will consider Al Franken resigning if Trump resigns first?

— Jane Mayer (@JaneMayerNYer) November 22, 2017

Mayer's piece prompted criticism even from many liberals. Vox‘s Matt Yglesias wrote that "the substance of Franken’s post-resignation retroactive defense is—despite the extraordinary length of Mayer’s exposition—incredibly simple to sum up: What he did just wasn’t that bad."

Mayer also maintained radio silence following the newest allegation. She did not respond to a request for comment by press time, or answer whether it was still her belief that Franken was "railroaded."

Link

So, Republicans get one alleged grope before being stoned, but Democrats get 9 actual gropes before being forgotten. But there is no double standard right???? I guess Women's rights don't apply to Democrats anymore than actual guilt applies to some minorities.

So that's a 2nd veteran he's mistreated. His groping photo may have been forgiveable if it was a fellow comedian (note-I'm saying 'may'). But it was a female vet he wasn't kidding, but was intimidating with that photo.

A lot of Dems think what Clinton did in the Oval office with a young impressionable intern was ok and the vicious Clinton deceitful attacks on her were ok, but what Trump did before he was president with women in their 30s and 40s who didn't work for him was not ok.

As I've said before, if not for the principle of hypocrisy, the Democrats would have no principles at all.

And don't even start on Teddy Kennedy/China, Clinton/Ukraine/Russia/Britain/Australia and Biden/Ukraine.

Interesting that none of our left wing loons who post here have jumped in this thread

(10-01-2019 02:34 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Interesting that none of our left wing loons who post here have jumped in this thread

Too busy salivating over an impeachment that won't happen.

(10-01-2019 02:35 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(10-01-2019 02:34 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Interesting that none of our left wing loons who post here have jumped in this thread

Too busy salivating over an impeachment that won't happen.

Does it make me a cruel person that I get so much joy out of the Democrats misery?

I'm not sure what you want from Franken. He's been out of the Senate for almost 2 years now.

(10-01-2019 02:58 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I'm not sure what you want from Franken. He's been out of the Senate for almost 2 years now.

You whiffed on the point.

Its that a bunch of Democrats are saying what he did was ok and that he should still be there.

No I don't think they said that at all. They just felt like he deserved a hearing to face the allegations. But they pressured him to resign before a hearing could take place. You'll have to show me the quotes that say what he did was okay.

Read the OP. There's also Gillibrand who got shunned by Dem donors for calling for his resignation (OP alludes to that).

"Mayer argued over the course of 12,000 words that Franken's first accuser, Leann Tweeden, was a politically motivated conservative who schemed with talk show hosts to go after the liberal senator. She blamed the other seven incidents on Franken's lack of coordination and warm demeanor, pointing out that he "could be physically obtuse." She quoted Franken and his supporters making the case that the disgraced ex-senator was "sort of clumsy," "a very physical person," "a warm, tactile person," and a "social—not a sexual—'lip-kisser.'"

Five of the sitting senators who publicly supported Franken's resignation in 2017 told Mayer that they regretted their public statements. "If there’s one decision I’ve made that I would take back, it’s the decision to call for his resignation," Tammy Duckworth (D., Ill.) said. Tom Udall (D., N.M.) said he "made a mistake," while Patrick Leahy (D., Vt.) called it "one of the biggest mistakes I’ve made" in his forty-five years in the Senate. Angus King (I., Maine) called Franken's resignation "the political equivalent of capital punishment" and Jeff Merkley (D., Ore.) said, "in my heart, I’ve not felt right about it.""

(10-01-2019 04:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  Read the OP. There's also Gillibrand who got shunned by Dem donors for calling for his resignation (OP alludes to that).

"Mayer argued over the course of 12,000 words that Franken's first accuser, Leann Tweeden, was a politically motivated conservative who schemed with talk show hosts to go after the liberal senator. She blamed the other seven incidents on Franken's lack of coordination and warm demeanor, pointing out that he "could be physically obtuse." She quoted Franken and his supporters making the case that the disgraced ex-senator was "sort of clumsy," "a very physical person," "a warm, tactile person," and a "social—not a sexual—'lip-kisser.'"

Five of the sitting senators who publicly supported Franken's resignation in 2017 told Mayer that they regretted their public statements. "If there’s one decision I’ve made that I would take back, it’s the decision to call for his resignation," Tammy Duckworth (D., Ill.) said. Tom Udall (D., N.M.) said he "made a mistake," while Patrick Leahy (D., Vt.) called it "one of the biggest mistakes I’ve made" in his forty-five years in the Senate. Angus King (I., Maine) called Franken's resignation "the political equivalent of capital punishment" and Jeff Merkley (D., Ore.) said, "in my heart, I’ve not felt right about it.""

Ah! That's because they are thinking of the leftist donations they'll miss or because they are remembering their past sins and hoping they don't get a #metoo popping up for them.

(10-01-2019 12:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-01-2019 12:30 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:The senators who recanted their initial support for former Minnesota senator Al Franken's resignation remained silent as a ninth woman has stepped forward to say that the ex-Democratic senator groped her without consent.

An anonymous veteran who also worked as a Democratic Senate staffer on Monday became the ninth woman to accuse Franken of unwanted touching or kissing. The newest allegation comes after the New Yorker‘s Jane Mayer suggested in July in "The Case of Al Franken" that 36 Democratic senators were wrong to demand Franken's resignation after the first 8 allegations.

The woman told New York Magazine that the comedian intentionally groped her buttocks during a 2006 photo-op.

"He puts his hand on my ass. He’s telling the photographer, ‘Take another one. I think I blinked. Take another one.’ And I’m just frozen," she said. "It’s so violating. And then he gives me a little squeeze on my buttock, and I am bright red. I don’t say anything at the time, but I felt deeply, deeply uncomfortable."

Mayer argued over the course of 12,000 words that Franken's first accuser, Leann Tweeden, was a politically motivated conservative who schemed with talk show hosts to go after the liberal senator. She blamed the other seven incidents on Franken's lack of coordination and warm demeanor, pointing out that he "could be physically obtuse." She quoted Franken and his supporters making the case that the disgraced ex-senator was "sort of clumsy," "a very physical person," "a warm, tactile person," and a "social—not a sexual—'lip-kisser.'"

Five of the sitting senators who publicly supported Franken's resignation in 2017 told Mayer that they regretted their public statements. "If there’s one decision I’ve made that I would take back, it’s the decision to call for his resignation," Tammy Duckworth (D., Ill.) said. Tom Udall (D., N.M.) said he "made a mistake," while Patrick Leahy (D., Vt.) called it "one of the biggest mistakes I’ve made" in his forty-five years in the Senate. Angus King (I., Maine) called Franken's resignation "the political equivalent of capital punishment" and Jeff Merkley (D., Ore.) said, "in my heart, I’ve not felt right about it."

None of the senators commented publicly on the newest allegation or responded by press time to emails asking whether they stood by their belief that they erred in calling for Franken's resignation. Prominent Democratic megadonor Susie Tompkins Buell, who renounced support for any Democrats who ousted Franken, also did not respond to a request for comment. A representative for former senator Heidi Heitkamp (D., N.D.)—who called her support for Franken's resignation the "one decision" she would take back—initially responded to an emailed request for comment, but went silent after being asked about Franken.

While her New Yorker piece was framed as a detached assessment of the evidence, Mayer's social media posts were more vocal in their support for Franken. "How Al Franken got railroaded," Mayer tweeted.

How @alfranken got railroaded: my story here https://t.co/zNzRMPRoa2

— Jane Mayer (@JaneMayerNYer) July 22, 2019

"How about this," she also tweeted before Franken's resignation, "Dems will consider Al Franken resigning if Trump resigns first?"

How about this: Dems will consider Al Franken resigning if Trump resigns first?

— Jane Mayer (@JaneMayerNYer) November 22, 2017

Mayer's piece prompted criticism even from many liberals. Vox‘s Matt Yglesias wrote that "the substance of Franken’s post-resignation retroactive defense is—despite the extraordinary length of Mayer’s exposition—incredibly simple to sum up: What he did just wasn’t that bad."

Mayer also maintained radio silence following the newest allegation. She did not respond to a request for comment by press time, or answer whether it was still her belief that Franken was "railroaded."

Link

So, Republicans get one alleged grope before being stoned, but Democrats get 9 actual gropes before being forgotten. But there is no double standard right???? I guess Women's rights don't apply to Democrats anymore than actual guilt applies to some minorities.

https://youtu.be/q5pESPQpXxE


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