recruiting - 16 Tennesseans & 7 from Shelby County on the Navy roster for Thursday. I dont know that its still true but at one point Texas was the #1 state for Navy football players and Tennessee was #2

https://dailymemphian.com/section/sports...t-and-that

(09-25-2019 12:59 PM)tigerjeb Wrote:  recruiting - 16 Tennesseans & 7 from Shelby County on the Navy roster for Thursday. I dont know that its still true but at one point Texas was the #1 state for Navy football players and Tennessee was #2

https://dailymemphian.com/section/sports...t-and-that

Couldn't that work both ways? i.e. I wonder if Florida/Ohio/Pennsylvania would be a bigger source now if they'd been in the East the last few years.

Divisions are going away, so kinda moot

(09-25-2019 01:02 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 12:59 PM)tigerjeb Wrote:  recruiting - 16 Tennesseans & 7 from Shelby County on the Navy roster for Thursday. I dont know that its still true but at one point Texas was the #1 state for Navy football players and Tennessee was #2

https://dailymemphian.com/section/sports...t-and-that

Couldn't that work both ways? i.e. I wonder if Florida/Ohio/Pennsylvania would be a bigger source now if they'd been in the East the last few years.

Feel like Texans are more likely to join the military

(09-25-2019 01:02 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 12:59 PM)tigerjeb Wrote:  recruiting - 16 Tennesseans & 7 from Shelby County on the Navy roster for Thursday. I dont know that its still true but at one point Texas was the #1 state for Navy football players and Tennessee was #2

https://dailymemphian.com/section/sports...t-and-that

Couldn't that work both ways? i.e. I wonder if Florida/Ohio/Pennsylvania would be a bigger source now if they'd been in the East the last few years.

it was like that before they joined the conference. it's not like they lack name recognition in those other places. it's more "this is where we do our best recruiting, so let's make sure we play these teams every year."

also with 2 florida schools in the conference, the state is like a divisional opponent. they'll visit florida every other year just like they do tennessee.

SMU and Tulane are also in the West. Navy has played a large number of games with both those schools. In fact the SMU Navy game even has its own trophy.

(09-25-2019 01:03 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 01:02 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 12:59 PM)tigerjeb Wrote:  recruiting - 16 Tennesseans & 7 from Shelby County on the Navy roster for Thursday. I dont know that its still true but at one point Texas was the #1 state for Navy football players and Tennessee was #2

https://dailymemphian.com/section/sports...t-and-that

Couldn't that work both ways? i.e. I wonder if Florida/Ohio/Pennsylvania would be a bigger source now if they'd been in the East the last few years.

Feel like Texans are more likely to join the military

That's valid. They have age restrictions and all.

(09-25-2019 03:25 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  SMU and Tulane are also in the West. Navy has played a large number of games with both those schools. In fact the SMU Navy game even has its own trophy.

A legit trophy - not the UConn/UCF type.

Navy likes playing in Houston and Dallas for recruiting reasons.

(09-25-2019 01:02 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Divisions are going away, so kinda moot

Temporarily. Not (I believe) on a permanent basis.

Check back in 2 years or so, and I’d lay 100:1 odds that at least one new football member will either have joined, or will have announced intention to do so.

Navy's reasons for preferring to be in the West Division, in rough order of priority:
- Navy football recruiting. As pointed out, Tennessee has been huge for us. O-Line Coach / Run Game Coordinator Ashley Ingram has been responsible for this region and has killed. Malcolm Perry, Keenan Reynolds, Jabaree Tuani, we have a real pipeline there. Plus, of course Texas.
- Similar Institutions in SMU, Tulsa, Tulane. Much like our comfort in the Patriot League for all sports, these schools fit well with our overall mission. Add in the history with them greater than any of the East teams, including the Gansz Trophy between Navy and SMU.
- National Profile. The geographic footprint of the West Division is more in line with our intent to be a national program, rather than focusing on the East Division and therefore having a more regional profile.
- USNA recruiting and Navy recruiting. These two factors are almost a subset of the "National Profile" factor, but I will mention them just to distinguish from football recruiting.

I will highlight "preferred" and step away from "insisted." "Prefer" is the verb AD Chet Gladchuk has used, including recently. When we negotiated and signed the agreement to join the Big East in 2012, there were certain requirements that were in the paperwork: Navy home games on Saturday only, identifying an October date for Homecoming in advance, no Navy home games on Thanksgiving weekend, Air Force on the first Saturday of October, Navy-ND getting scheduling priority, Army-Navy second Saturday of December. The separate AAC-CBSSN contract for Navy home games is a result of those conditions built into Navy's agreement to join the Big East / AAC.
If the AAC stays at eleven but has to pick permanent rivals, Navy will likely lobby for some of the West teams for the reasons above. If there is some expansion, Navy will continue to prefer the West and lobby hard for permanent rivals that fit the above.
If there is some expansion or a single addition with East-West divisions remaining, Navy will lobby to stay West for the reasons above, but that is not as fundamental as the things already in the signed paperwork for Navy's entry into the Big East / AAC.

(09-25-2019 06:11 PM)Digetydog Wrote:  

(09-25-2019 03:25 PM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  SMU and Tulane are also in the West. Navy has played a large number of games with both those schools. In fact the SMU Navy game even has its own trophy.

A legit trophy - not the UConn/UCF type.

Navy likes playing in Houston and Dallas for recruiting reasons.

When Navy is talking about recruiting they mean the entire student body, not just the potential varsity football team.