(07-30-2019 04:57 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:46 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Basically, UConn threw football into indy limbo to jump from the #7 conference in basketball to the #6.

It's more like third or fourth than sixth.

Per Massey Ratings Index, the BE and AAC were the 5th and 6th highest rated conferences, respectively, last season. The AAC managed the ranking despite UConn's 9th placed drag.

Ironically, excluding UConn last season from the AAC and adding them to the BE would have made the gap closer between the two leagues.

https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Thats what I was thinking--the conferences were within one slot of each other.

He's laying the groundwork for closing down UConn football.
- We are losing money on travel expenses for a conference that doesn't fit us
- No more future P5 expansion
- Even if the CFP expands, its near impossible to get a G5 team to make the championship

Next we will hear
- Scheduling as an independent is hard
- Bowls agreements are hard to find, unless you're in the CFP these bowls don't make money. We have lost money on bowl games in the past.

Then finally,
- UConn is closing down football

(07-30-2019 05:08 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  He's laying the groundwork for closing down UConn football.
- We are losing money on travel expenses for a conference that doesn't fit us
- No more future P5 expansion
- Even if the CFP expands, its near impossible to get a G5 team to make the championship

Next we will hear
- Scheduling as an independent is hard
- Bowls agreements are hard to find, unless you're in the CFP these bowls don't make money. We have lost money on bowl games in the past.

Then finally,
- UConn is closing down football

Yup. Its does sound a lot like "Act One" of a three season play that ends with---"Well, we tried indy and it just hasnt worked." If UConn football fans are smart, they will show in droves for whatever football entertainment gruel the UConn administration shovels into the Rent. Thats the most effective (and perhaps only) way to deter what I have a feeling is being set up.

(07-30-2019 04:57 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:46 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Basically, UConn threw football into indy limbo to jump from the #7 conference in basketball to the #6.

It's more like third or fourth than sixth.

Per Massey Ratings Index, the BE and AAC were the 5th and 6th highest rated conferences, respectively, last season. The AAC managed the ranking despite UConn's 9th placed drag.

Ironically, excluding UConn last season from the AAC and adding them to the BE would have made the gap closer between the two leagues.

https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Since the split the Big East has finished (going backwards) 5-3-4-4-2-4 in Massey while the AAC has finished 6-7-7-7-8-8. It's not inaccurate to say the Big East has been around the third or fourth best conference recently.

(07-30-2019 05:18 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:57 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:46 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Basically, UConn threw football into indy limbo to jump from the #7 conference in basketball to the #6.

It's more like third or fourth than sixth.

Per Massey Ratings Index, the BE and AAC were the 5th and 6th highest rated conferences, respectively, last season. The AAC managed the ranking despite UConn's 9th placed drag.

Ironically, excluding UConn last season from the AAC and adding them to the BE would have made the gap closer between the two leagues.

https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Since the split the Big East has finished (going backwards) 5-3-4-4-2-4 in Massey while the AAC has finished 6-7-7-7-8-8. It's not inaccurate to say the Big East has been around the third or fourth best conference recently.

The AAC ascends while the BE wans - especially if Memphis reaches its potential and ECU and Tulane improves.

(07-30-2019 05:30 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 05:18 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:57 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:46 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Basically, UConn threw football into indy limbo to jump from the #7 conference in basketball to the #6.

It's more like third or fourth than sixth.

Per Massey Ratings Index, the BE and AAC were the 5th and 6th highest rated conferences, respectively, last season. The AAC managed the ranking despite UConn's 9th placed drag.

Ironically, excluding UConn last season from the AAC and adding them to the BE would have made the gap closer between the two leagues.

https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Since the split the Big East has finished (going backwards) 5-3-4-4-2-4 in Massey while the AAC has finished 6-7-7-7-8-8. It's not inaccurate to say the Big East has been around the third or fourth best conference recently.

The AAC ascends while the BE wans - especially if Memphis reaches its potential and ECU and Tulane improves.

Eh, I'm not concerned about the Big East - especially if UConn reaches its potential and DePaul improves.

In all seriousness though, it'd be good for a few more conferences to be in the jumble with the P5 and the Big East on an annual basis, because the narrative 5 years ago was anyone outside the P5 would eventually die off. If it means there's a year where the AAC finishes third and the Big East is fifth, such is life. I'm going not really concerned that the Big East gets multiple bids long-term and retains MSG (or whatever replaces MSG in the unlikely event of MSG's demolition).

(07-30-2019 12:36 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 12:31 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 11:55 AM)pesik Wrote:  2) says he thinks the playoff will eventually expand to 8 (not realistic to stay at 4). and thinks there will be a spot for the g5 but notes that it is only 1 spot for 60 teams, not great odds, then they'll be put against the top seed every year. and that's if its not an all at-large playoff which would be worse... how that's not ideal, he doesn't think its a legitimate shot, nothing to plan a future around

A couple of thoughts on this:

1) How does he know that there will be a G5 slot in the 8-team playoff if nothing has been decided yet?

2) I'd rather see an at-large system than a guaranteed spot (assuming none of the other conferences have a guaranteed spot). Reasoning?
a) it seems like a handout, and whatever team we field will be sold as a wellfare slot.
b) If we can produce the 6th or 7th best team, I don't want to be automatically slotted in the 8-spot.
c) If we can't produce a top 8 team, then we have no business being in the playoff.

counter, no g5 has ever cracked the top 10 of the cfp ever....even if they were top 10 in the AP/Coaches...

we wont be given a fair shake without some auto bid...not with a committee style selection system

Except, well, last year. We were #8 in the final CFP rankings.

(07-30-2019 06:20 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 05:30 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 05:18 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:57 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:46 PM)Bogg Wrote:  It's more like third or fourth than sixth.

Per Massey Ratings Index, the BE and AAC were the 5th and 6th highest rated conferences, respectively, last season. The AAC managed the ranking despite UConn's 9th placed drag.

Ironically, excluding UConn last season from the AAC and adding them to the BE would have made the gap closer between the two leagues.

https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Since the split the Big East has finished (going backwards) 5-3-4-4-2-4 in Massey while the AAC has finished 6-7-7-7-8-8. It's not inaccurate to say the Big East has been around the third or fourth best conference recently.

The AAC ascends while the BE wans - especially if Memphis reaches its potential and ECU and Tulane improves.

Eh, I'm not concerned about the Big East - especially if UConn reaches its potential and DePaul improves.

In all seriousness though, it'd be good for a few more conferences to be in the jumble with the P5 and the Big East on an annual basis, because the narrative 5 years ago was anyone outside the P5 would eventually die off. If it means there's a year where the AAC finishes third and the Big East is fifth, such is life. I'm going not really concerned that the Big East gets multiple bids long-term and retains MSG (or whatever replaces MSG in the unlikely event of MSG's demolition).

Yeah, I've been waiting for DePaul to improve since 2005!... Good Luck With That...

He should be an expert on collapses

(07-30-2019 05:18 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:57 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:46 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Basically, UConn threw football into indy limbo to jump from the #7 conference in basketball to the #6.

It's more like third or fourth than sixth.

Per Massey Ratings Index, the BE and AAC were the 5th and 6th highest rated conferences, respectively, last season. The AAC managed the ranking despite UConn's 9th placed drag.

Ironically, excluding UConn last season from the AAC and adding them to the BE would have made the gap closer between the two leagues.

https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Since the split the Big East has finished (going backwards) 5-3-4-4-2-4 in Massey while the AAC has finished 6-7-7-7-8-8. It's not inaccurate to say the Big East has been around the third or fourth best conference recently.

So the AAC was 8th when UConn was good in MBB and was happy... And ever since the AAC is on an upward trajectory while UConn has been on a downward spiral... My appologies for being critical of UConns decision makers... I/We should be thanking the for QUITTING.

(07-30-2019 07:05 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 06:20 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 05:30 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 05:18 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:57 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Per Massey Ratings Index, the BE and AAC were the 5th and 6th highest rated conferences, respectively, last season. The AAC managed the ranking despite UConn's 9th placed drag.

Ironically, excluding UConn last season from the AAC and adding them to the BE would have made the gap closer between the two leagues.

https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Since the split the Big East has finished (going backwards) 5-3-4-4-2-4 in Massey while the AAC has finished 6-7-7-7-8-8. It's not inaccurate to say the Big East has been around the third or fourth best conference recently.

The AAC ascends while the BE wans - especially if Memphis reaches its potential and ECU and Tulane improves.

Eh, I'm not concerned about the Big East - especially if UConn reaches its potential and DePaul improves.

In all seriousness though, it'd be good for a few more conferences to be in the jumble with the P5 and the Big East on an annual basis, because the narrative 5 years ago was anyone outside the P5 would eventually die off. If it means there's a year where the AAC finishes third and the Big East is fifth, such is life. I'm going not really concerned that the Big East gets multiple bids long-term and retains MSG (or whatever replaces MSG in the unlikely event of MSG's demolition).

Yeah, I've been waiting for DePaul to improve since 2005!... Good Luck With That...

You didn't catch what I did there, did you?

(07-30-2019 07:13 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 05:18 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:57 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:46 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Basically, UConn threw football into indy limbo to jump from the #7 conference in basketball to the #6.

It's more like third or fourth than sixth.

Per Massey Ratings Index, the BE and AAC were the 5th and 6th highest rated conferences, respectively, last season. The AAC managed the ranking despite UConn's 9th placed drag.

Ironically, excluding UConn last season from the AAC and adding them to the BE would have made the gap closer between the two leagues.

https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Since the split the Big East has finished (going backwards) 5-3-4-4-2-4 in Massey while the AAC has finished 6-7-7-7-8-8. It's not inaccurate to say the Big East has been around the third or fourth best conference recently.

So the AAC was 8th when UConn was good in MBB and was happy... And ever since the AAC is on an upward trajectory while UConn has been on a downward spiral... My appologies for being critical of UConns decision makers... I/We should be thanking the for QUITTING.

Be critical of the decision makers at UConn all you want, just make sure your argument makes sense while you do it. Don't claim the university that keeps firing coaches doesn't blame their coaches.

(07-30-2019 05:08 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  He's laying the groundwork for closing down UConn football.
- We are losing money on travel expenses for a conference that doesn't fit us
- No more future P5 expansion
- Even if the CFP expands, its near impossible to get a G5 team to make the championship

Next we will hear
- Scheduling as an independent is hard
- Bowls agreements are hard to find, unless you're in the CFP these bowls don't make money. We have lost money on bowl games in the past.

Then finally,
- UConn is closing down football

This guy gets it.

(07-30-2019 07:28 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 07:05 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 06:20 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 05:30 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 05:18 PM)Bogg Wrote:  Since the split the Big East has finished (going backwards) 5-3-4-4-2-4 in Massey while the AAC has finished 6-7-7-7-8-8. It's not inaccurate to say the Big East has been around the third or fourth best conference recently.

The AAC ascends while the BE wans - especially if Memphis reaches its potential and ECU and Tulane improves.

Eh, I'm not concerned about the Big East - especially if UConn reaches its potential and DePaul improves.

In all seriousness though, it'd be good for a few more conferences to be in the jumble with the P5 and the Big East on an annual basis, because the narrative 5 years ago was anyone outside the P5 would eventually die off. If it means there's a year where the AAC finishes third and the Big East is fifth, such is life. I'm going not really concerned that the Big East gets multiple bids long-term and retains MSG (or whatever replaces MSG in the unlikely event of MSG's demolition).

Yeah, I've been waiting for DePaul to improve since 2005!... Good Luck With That...

You didn't catch what I did there, did you?

(07-30-2019 07:13 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 05:18 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:57 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:46 PM)Bogg Wrote:  It's more like third or fourth than sixth.

Per Massey Ratings Index, the BE and AAC were the 5th and 6th highest rated conferences, respectively, last season. The AAC managed the ranking despite UConn's 9th placed drag.

Ironically, excluding UConn last season from the AAC and adding them to the BE would have made the gap closer between the two leagues.

https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Since the split the Big East has finished (going backwards) 5-3-4-4-2-4 in Massey while the AAC has finished 6-7-7-7-8-8. It's not inaccurate to say the Big East has been around the third or fourth best conference recently.

So the AAC was 8th when UConn was good in MBB and was happy... And ever since the AAC is on an upward trajectory while UConn has been on a downward spiral... My appologies for being critical of UConns decision makers... I/We should be thanking the for QUITTING.

Be critical of the decision makers at UConn all you want, just make sure your argument makes sense while you do it. Don't claim the university that keeps firing coaches doesn't blame their coaches.

I don't know how to respond to that comment, you have made it before as well... I'll try this to describe those decisions by the UConn Administrators...

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.” - Albert Einstein

(07-30-2019 11:55 AM)pesik Wrote:  https://www.iheart.com/podcast/455-the-h...-47253111/

Part 2 of a interview he did yesterday: ignoring the big east stuff, he goes on a conversation about the landscape of college athletics. And said some note worthy stuff

1) says he has had a ton of talks with lots of ADs in similar situations as UConn with big traveling expenses who have been contemplating "whats best for their future".
Makes it clear he isnt talking about other AAC ADs, as he says those teams didnt get the benefit of the AACs tv budget and competition
that atleast in the AAC they were making more than the their travel expenses.

2) says he thinks the playoff will eventually expand to 8 (not realistic to stay at 4). and thinks there will be a spot for the g5 but notes that it is only 1 spot for 60 teams, not great odds, then they'll be put against the top seed every year. and that's if its not an all at-large playoff which would be worse... how that's not ideal, he doesn't think its a legitimate shot, nothing to plan a future around

3) doesn't think the p5 will expand..they've reached a point where they are making too much money for it to make sense...the conference members will either be taking a big paycut or media companies will have to shell out 40mil-80mill extra a year for no reason if they expand, which isnt realistic
- spoke to people in the industry about it

the change coming is the playoff, not expansion...but notes that is his opinion

Job saver interview.

(07-30-2019 10:45 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 07:28 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 07:05 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 06:20 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 05:30 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The AAC ascends while the BE wans - especially if Memphis reaches its potential and ECU and Tulane improves.

Eh, I'm not concerned about the Big East - especially if UConn reaches its potential and DePaul improves.

In all seriousness though, it'd be good for a few more conferences to be in the jumble with the P5 and the Big East on an annual basis, because the narrative 5 years ago was anyone outside the P5 would eventually die off. If it means there's a year where the AAC finishes third and the Big East is fifth, such is life. I'm going not really concerned that the Big East gets multiple bids long-term and retains MSG (or whatever replaces MSG in the unlikely event of MSG's demolition).

Yeah, I've been waiting for DePaul to improve since 2005!... Good Luck With That...

You didn't catch what I did there, did you?

(07-30-2019 07:13 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 05:18 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 04:57 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Per Massey Ratings Index, the BE and AAC were the 5th and 6th highest rated conferences, respectively, last season. The AAC managed the ranking despite UConn's 9th placed drag.

Ironically, excluding UConn last season from the AAC and adding them to the BE would have made the gap closer between the two leagues.

https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Since the split the Big East has finished (going backwards) 5-3-4-4-2-4 in Massey while the AAC has finished 6-7-7-7-8-8. It's not inaccurate to say the Big East has been around the third or fourth best conference recently.

So the AAC was 8th when UConn was good in MBB and was happy... And ever since the AAC is on an upward trajectory while UConn has been on a downward spiral... My appologies for being critical of UConns decision makers... I/We should be thanking the for QUITTING.

Be critical of the decision makers at UConn all you want, just make sure your argument makes sense while you do it. Don't claim the university that keeps firing coaches doesn't blame their coaches.

I don't know how to respond to that comment, you have made it before as well... I'll try this to describe those decisions by the UConn Administrators...

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.” - Albert Einstein

Shouldn’t UConn start blaming the people hiring these awful coaches? Spend $80mm a year and get next to no return. Just buy out these admins and pay them for their horrific performance. Then dump another $20mm to go to the BE and destroy all the millions invested in a now dead fball program. Academic admins are a joke. There is a special wing in hell reserved for them. Totally self involved
Mich St just paid a president $2.5mm after she oversaw the raping of countless athletes. Let that soak in. Obviously no one here bear as bad A’s UCONN losing games, but it speaks to how broken this public education system has become

(07-30-2019 11:41 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 10:45 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 07:28 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 07:05 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 06:20 PM)Bogg Wrote:  Eh, I'm not concerned about the Big East - especially if UConn reaches its potential and DePaul improves.

In all seriousness though, it'd be good for a few more conferences to be in the jumble with the P5 and the Big East on an annual basis, because the narrative 5 years ago was anyone outside the P5 would eventually die off. If it means there's a year where the AAC finishes third and the Big East is fifth, such is life. I'm going not really concerned that the Big East gets multiple bids long-term and retains MSG (or whatever replaces MSG in the unlikely event of MSG's demolition).

Yeah, I've been waiting for DePaul to improve since 2005!... Good Luck With That...

You didn't catch what I did there, did you?

(07-30-2019 07:13 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 05:18 PM)Bogg Wrote:  Since the split the Big East has finished (going backwards) 5-3-4-4-2-4 in Massey while the AAC has finished 6-7-7-7-8-8. It's not inaccurate to say the Big East has been around the third or fourth best conference recently.

So the AAC was 8th when UConn was good in MBB and was happy... And ever since the AAC is on an upward trajectory while UConn has been on a downward spiral... My appologies for being critical of UConns decision makers... I/We should be thanking the for QUITTING.

Be critical of the decision makers at UConn all you want, just make sure your argument makes sense while you do it. Don't claim the university that keeps firing coaches doesn't blame their coaches.

I don't know how to respond to that comment, you have made it before as well... I'll try this to describe those decisions by the UConn Administrators...

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.” - Albert Einstein

Shouldn’t UConn start blaming the people hiring these awful coaches? Spend $80mm a year and get next to no return. Just buy out these admins and pay them for their horrific performance. Then dump another $20mm to go to the BE and destroy all the millions invested in a now dead fball program. Academic admins are a joke. There is a special wing in hell reserved for them. Totally self involved
Mich St just paid a president $2.5mm after she oversaw the raping of countless athletes. Let that soak in. Obviously no one here bear as bad A’s UCONN losing games, but it speaks to how broken this public education system has become

100% ^^^

(07-30-2019 05:08 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  He's laying the groundwork for closing down UConn football.
- We are losing money on travel expenses for a conference that doesn't fit us
- No more future P5 expansion
- Even if the CFP expands, its near impossible to get a G5 team to make the championship

Next we will hear
- Scheduling as an independent is hard
- Bowls agreements are hard to find, unless you're in the CFP these bowls don't make money. We have lost money on bowl games in the past.

Then finally,
- UConn is closing down football

Missed one:

We don't have a 10,000 seat FCS stadium on campus because we tore it down, so we can't drop to FCS, so we are shutting FB down. That means we can drop the equivalent number of women's sports scholarships but not women's basketball scholarships, so now we are only losing money on men's and women's basketball, so they will hang around for the annual trip to the Garden and Mohican, now that the AAC has left town.


So there as the AD I saved a bunch of money .

(07-30-2019 06:26 PM)NothingButKnight Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 12:36 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 12:31 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 11:55 AM)pesik Wrote:  2) says he thinks the playoff will eventually expand to 8 (not realistic to stay at 4). and thinks there will be a spot for the g5 but notes that it is only 1 spot for 60 teams, not great odds, then they'll be put against the top seed every year. and that's if its not an all at-large playoff which would be worse... how that's not ideal, he doesn't think its a legitimate shot, nothing to plan a future around

A couple of thoughts on this:

1) How does he know that there will be a G5 slot in the 8-team playoff if nothing has been decided yet?

2) I'd rather see an at-large system than a guaranteed spot (assuming none of the other conferences have a guaranteed spot). Reasoning?
a) it seems like a handout, and whatever team we field will be sold as a wellfare slot.
b) If we can produce the 6th or 7th best team, I don't want to be automatically slotted in the 8-spot.
c) If we can't produce a top 8 team, then we have no business being in the playoff.

counter, no g5 has ever cracked the top 10 of the cfp ever....even if they were top 10 in the AP/Coaches...

we wont be given a fair shake without some auto bid...not with a committee style selection system

Except, well, last year. We were #8 in the final CFP rankings.

(07-30-2019 12:31 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 11:55 AM)pesik Wrote:  2) says he thinks the playoff will eventually expand to 8 (not realistic to stay at 4). and thinks there will be a spot for the g5 but notes that it is only 1 spot for 60 teams, not great odds, then they'll be put against the top seed every year. and that's if its not an all at-large playoff which would be worse... how that's not ideal, he doesn't think its a legitimate shot, nothing to plan a future around

A couple of thoughts on this:

1) How does he know that there will be a G5 slot in the 8-team playoff if nothing has been decided yet?

2) I'd rather see an at-large system than a guaranteed spot (assuming none of the other conferences have a guaranteed spot). Reasoning?
a) it seems like a handout, and whatever team we field will be sold as a wellfare slot.
b) If we can produce the 6th or 7th best team, I don't want to be automatically slotted in the 8-spot.
c) If we can't produce a top 8 team, then we have no business being in the playoff.

If you don’t have an automatic spot for top G5 champ they will never get in. You know it as well as I do. They will find a reason to keep them out, not a tough enough schedule, etc. The same crap they told UCF and Houston when they were good enough to play in the playoff.

Also the P5 leagues want to make sure their champions get in. The Pac12 and B10 are tired of getting left out. Auto bids will be part of it. The UConn AD is right.

Odds are it will be 8 teams. 5 P5 champs, 1 G5 champ (AAC), plus 2 wild card selections who don’t win their league. Seed the 8 and play it off.

At least then the AAC would have a good shot to make it. Currently there is virtually zero chance. As it would be if they had a selection committee pick the 8. And who do you think would be on that selection committee? That’s right, a bunch of Bill Hancocks, P5 former coaches, ADs, etc. they’ll shut the G5 out.

(07-30-2019 06:26 PM)NothingButKnight Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 12:36 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 12:31 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-30-2019 11:55 AM)pesik Wrote:  2) says he thinks the playoff will eventually expand to 8 (not realistic to stay at 4). and thinks there will be a spot for the g5 but notes that it is only 1 spot for 60 teams, not great odds, then they'll be put against the top seed every year. and that's if its not an all at-large playoff which would be worse... how that's not ideal, he doesn't think its a legitimate shot, nothing to plan a future around

A couple of thoughts on this:

1) How does he know that there will be a G5 slot in the 8-team playoff if nothing has been decided yet?

2) I'd rather see an at-large system than a guaranteed spot (assuming none of the other conferences have a guaranteed spot). Reasoning?
a) it seems like a handout, and whatever team we field will be sold as a wellfare slot.
b) If we can produce the 6th or 7th best team, I don't want to be automatically slotted in the 8-spot.
c) If we can't produce a top 8 team, then we have no business being in the playoff.

counter, no g5 has ever cracked the top 10 of the cfp ever....even if they were top 10 in the AP/Coaches...

we wont be given a fair shake without some auto bid...not with a committee style selection system

Except, well, last year. We were #8 in the final CFP rankings.

After the playoff or before? And you know as well as I do if that was part of the criteria for selecting the 8 teams UCF would’ve been conveniently ranked 9 or 10. Wait and see.

That’s why an auto bid is a must. The P5 can stack any selection committee and make the rules so no G5 would ever be ranked top 8 and get in. It has to be auto—