(07-04-2019 10:34 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 10:32 AM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  There are rumors James Madison interested in American.

What kind of school are they? I'd stay 11 if no can't-resist-candidate

Not a national university

Terrible basketball

2 year transition to FBS

I know a few Dukes grads. Good people. Not really an AAC fit but more interesting than others proposes.

Boise State is a non- starter for the AAC. Any expansion west wil include either BYU, SDSU or both.

(07-04-2019 10:11 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 09:39 AM)BFieldHusky Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 01:10 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Article is full of misinformation.

The AAC production costs will not be millions of dollars, the old Texas guy is thinking what it cost for ESPN to show up for a football game broadcast, the trucks, crew, etc for a temporary set up.

Also doesn't understand how the plus part of our deal works i.e. we have many more linear games for football and basketball.

According to this article, it costs Pac 12 schools 15-25k to put on a live olympic sporting event. It will be less to put on ESPN + but when you factor in the amount of events school will have to produce, it will be add up. That guy's numbers are accurate.

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Jour...Pac12.aspx

production people are going to be on staff..so they wont cost anymore or less..and 99% chance they hire college students and dont pay them or very little

after the production equipment is already built (which is the only major cost)... do you think its is going to cost millions to carry the camera equiment from the tennis field to the soccer field

anyone thinking it will cost 7mill has a crazy bias..which you as a uconn fan probably do

1) the aac by choice is putting so many Olympics on espn+.. if it cost that much why would we agree to it, especially when we are the ones that likely wanted it..espn doesnt care about aac golf...

2) 70% of it is already broadcast on the aac digital network..we werent losing money on broadcast before on 2 mil each before

3)it is already confirmed espn will be helping with the production costs on espn+ outside of the tv money especially for the revenue sports

Lol. I never said 7 million dollars. And you of all people to bring up being biased!

I will believe Joel Lulla though. You guys act like he is some random message board poster. The production costs for producing events are going to add up based on the volume.

Aresco also admitted in a recent interview to a Tulsa newspaper than ESPN can re-open the deal since UConn is leaving.

“We’re going to sit down with ESPN fairly soon,” Aresco said. “Obviously we hope that the impact is minimal, but I really don’t want to get into it. I don’t want to do anything that would put them on the spot.”

Is “renegotiate” the right word?
“We don’t know yet,” Aresco said. “I think we should leave it at that.”

https://www.tulsaworld.com/sports/colleg...a7bd2.html

(07-04-2019 10:38 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 10:34 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 10:32 AM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  There are rumors James Madison interested in American.

What kind of school are they? I'd stay 11 if no can't-resist-candidate

Not a national university

Terrible basketball

2 year transition to FBS

I know a few Dukes grads. Good people. Not really an AAC fit but more interesting than others proposes.

In what way is it more interesting? Athletically? Academically? I guess I just dont see the strategic benefit this kind of low level ODU/JMU/Liberty type additions is seeking to achieve.

(07-04-2019 12:46 PM)BFieldHusky Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 10:11 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 09:39 AM)BFieldHusky Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 01:10 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Article is full of misinformation.

The AAC production costs will not be millions of dollars, the old Texas guy is thinking what it cost for ESPN to show up for a football game broadcast, the trucks, crew, etc for a temporary set up.

Also doesn't understand how the plus part of our deal works i.e. we have many more linear games for football and basketball.

According to this article, it costs Pac 12 schools 15-25k to put on a live olympic sporting event. It will be less to put on ESPN + but when you factor in the amount of events school will have to produce, it will be add up. That guy's numbers are accurate.

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Jour...Pac12.aspx

production people are going to be on staff..so they wont cost anymore or less..and 99% chance they hire college students and dont pay them or very little

after the production equipment is already built (which is the only major cost)... do you think its is going to cost millions to carry the camera equiment from the tennis field to the soccer field

anyone thinking it will cost 7mill has a crazy bias..which you as a uconn fan probably do

1) the aac by choice is putting so many Olympics on espn+.. if it cost that much why would we agree to it, especially when we are the ones that likely wanted it..espn doesnt care about aac golf...

2) 70% of it is already broadcast on the aac digital network..we werent losing money on broadcast before on 2 mil each before

3)it is already confirmed espn will be helping with the production costs on espn+ outside of the tv money especially for the revenue sports

Lol. I never said 7 million dollars. And you of all people to bring up being biased!

I will believe Joel Lulla though. You guys act like he is some random message board poster. The production costs for producing events are going to add up based on the volume.

Aresco also admitted in a recent interview to a Tulsa newspaper than ESPN can re-open the deal since UConn is leaving.

He didnt admit anything....he just said he would talk to them..that he doesnt know what espn wants to do..

and we also have no clue what he meant by "impact", as tv deals are more than money (example willingness to air women's bball games now etc.)


the productions cost are going up by choice!! it makes no difference if we air womens soccer to espn execs

we already air womens soccer on the aac's website, the majority of things we will air on espn+ is already being broadcast anyways ..and we did fine with our 2 mill

also if you are going to call me out for being biased...name one thing ive been biased about
also Joel Lulla has zero ties to the AAC

(07-04-2019 08:23 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 08:38 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Yikes... Doesn't look good at all for the MWC... If I am a mwc member I'll get the AAC on the horn asap... One huge problem though, majority of their members don't bring much to the table.

Look at the bottom-right corner of this page and looks like MW brings just as much to the table as AAC...
https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm

I'd like Fresno in the AAC.

(07-04-2019 12:47 PM)BFieldHusky Wrote:  “We’re going to sit down with ESPN fairly soon,” Aresco said. “Obviously we hope that the impact is minimal, but I really don’t want to get into it. I don’t want to do anything that would put them on the spot.”

Is “renegotiate” the right word?
“We don’t know yet,” Aresco said. “I think we should leave it at that.”

https://www.tulsaworld.com/sports/colleg...a7bd2.html

Yeah clearly. I mean he was asked point blank and he said "we don't know yet".

That sounds to me like they aren't just telling ESPN to take a walk, we have a contract. Something along lines of "hey we had UConn, now we don't how big an issue is that for you, what do you think we should do?"

Again I know it sucks to see your school just give up, admit that all these schools they talked trash about are actually better than UConn. That the only way for UConn to compete is as a large state flagship in a regional small private catholic school league. While schools like Tulsa keep going. It's even worse when the leadership is so inept they cost you tens of millions now and even more over the long term. Spreading bs doesn't help you or make UConn's disaster look any better.

CUSA and the MAC have the exact same Plus deal as the AAC. They make less than 500k in total media pay out (CUSA mainly off CBSsports) and yet they some how manage to produce all the plus content. They aren't losing money on their streaming deal. Safe to say the total cost to each AAC school is under 500k a year.

Most of the numbers you see involve moving equipment and staff from game to game and doing set ups or mistake a conference network costs for a streaming cost. Most of the equipment needed for the conference network to produce shows will be handled by ESPN. The schools will be responsible for production, cameras, and direction. A school is doing production for an entire Olympic season for something like 80k using three full time employees and student workers. That didn't include their initial costs for set up, which will be minimal since most of the schools have been doing digital broadcasts with the AAC digital network or their own digital broadcasts.

Sorry pup, you won't see much loss in the bottom line to the AAC contract, especially since the conference will be taking on the most expensive portion of the deal, football.

(07-04-2019 09:39 AM)BFieldHusky Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 01:10 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Article is full of misinformation.

The AAC production costs will not be millions of dollars, the old Texas guy is thinking what it cost for ESPN to show up for a football game broadcast, the trucks, crew, etc for a temporary set up.

Also doesn't understand how the plus part of our deal works i.e. we have many more linear games for football and basketball.

According to this article, it costs Pac 12 schools 15-25k to put on a live olympic sporting event. It will be less to put on ESPN + but when you factor in the amount of events school will have to produce, it will be add up. That guy's numbers are accurate.

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Jour...Pac12.aspx

There is a HUGE difference in the production cost of a linear TV network production and the costs associated with a digital ESPN3/ESPN+ level sports production. Ive been searching for a more definitive answer on the exact costs associated with these ESPN3 productions, but have been unable to find a number. However, I have found numerous schools with virtually no budget at all that are handling these production costs with little trouble. Below is an article detailing North Alabama moving up to D1.

So, understand that N Alabama is working with a total budget of 8.5-9 million. They cant even afford to fill all their open coaching positions--so lets be real----there is no way in hell they have 2 million a year to spend on digital TV production costs. Therefore, I think it is safe to assume the annual production costs of ESPN+ will be far below this 2 million figure dollar figure everyone wants to float. Even the first year equipment costs are probably waaaaay overblown.

In the below article, N Alabama says they will spend 2.125 million on a new basketball floor, new arena seating, adding a new video board, and building a new hospitality room in the arena. Now--here's the kicker. Also included in the 2.125 million dollar in spending is the purchase of the equipment that N Alabama will need to produce games for ESPN. Clearly, given all the things being done in that approved spending measure, the TV equipment could really only only represent a small fraction of the total 2.125 in spending


When UNA announced it would join the ASUN in December of 2016, it maintained that the move would not require building new facilities. The ASUN and UNA did agree that Flowers Hall needed renovations before UNA could host any ASUN Conference tournaments.

In December. UNA’s Board of Trustees approved a $2.125 million renovation plan for Flowers Hall, which included a new floor, new seating, the creation of a hospitality room and a video board. The renovation also included the purchase of a mobile production trailer and camera equipment for televising ASUN basketball games on ESPN.

https://www.timesdaily.com/sports/top_sp...17929.html


Its clear that even the intitial equipment costs can be done for a tiny fraction of the 2 million dollar figure often thrown around.

(07-04-2019 01:40 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 09:39 AM)BFieldHusky Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 01:10 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Article is full of misinformation.

The AAC production costs will not be millions of dollars, the old Texas guy is thinking what it cost for ESPN to show up for a football game broadcast, the trucks, crew, etc for a temporary set up.

Also doesn't understand how the plus part of our deal works i.e. we have many more linear games for football and basketball.

According to this article, it costs Pac 12 schools 15-25k to put on a live olympic sporting event. It will be less to put on ESPN + but when you factor in the amount of events school will have to produce, it will be add up. That guy's numbers are accurate.

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Jour...Pac12.aspx

There is a HUGE difference in the production cost of a linear TV network production and the costs associated with a digital ESPN3/ESPN+ level sports production. Ive been searching for a more definitive answer on the exact costs associated with these ESPN3 productions, but have been unable to find a number. However, I have found numerous schools with virtually no budget at all that are handling these production costs with little trouble. Below is an article detailing North Alabama moving up to D1.

They are working with a total budget of 8.5-9 million. They cant afford to fill all their open coaching positions--so there is no way in hell they have 2 million a year to spend on digital TV production costs. Therefore, I think it is safe to assume the annual production costs of ESPN+ will be far below this 2 million figure dollar figure everyone wants to float. Even the first year costs are probably overblown. N Alabama will 2.125 million a new basketball floor, new arena seating, adding a new video board, and building a new hospitality room in the arena. Now--here's the kicker. Also included in the 2.125 million dollar in spending is the purchase of ALL the equipment that N Alabama will needed to produce games for ESPN.


When UNA announced it would join the ASUN in December of 2016, it maintained that the move would not require building new facilities. The ASUN and UNA did agree that Flowers Hall needed renovations before UNA could host any ASUN Conference tournaments.

In December. UNA’s Board of Trustees approved a $2.125 million renovation plan for Flowers Hall, which included a new floor, new seating, the creation of a hospitality room and a video board. The renovation also included the purchase of a mobile production trailer and camera equipment for televising ASUN basketball games on ESPN.

https://www.timesdaily.com/sports/top_sp...17929.html


Its clear that even the intitial equipment costs can be done for a tiny fraction of the 2 million dollar figure often thrown around.

Some lower level Olympic games require 2 cameras. It isn't a huge production operation. Some costs can be sunk in the university for those anyway.

(07-04-2019 08:23 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 08:38 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Yikes... Doesn't look good at all for the MWC... If I am a mwc member I'll get the AAC on the horn asap... One huge problem though, majority of their members don't bring much to the table.

Look at the bottom-right corner of this page and looks like MW brings just as much to the table as AAC...
https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm

Let us know what the bank says when you go to cash your Massey Ratings check

(07-04-2019 09:39 AM)BFieldHusky Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 01:10 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Article is full of misinformation.

The AAC production costs will not be millions of dollars, the old Texas guy is thinking what it cost for ESPN to show up for a football game broadcast, the trucks, crew, etc for a temporary set up.

Also doesn't understand how the plus part of our deal works i.e. we have many more linear games for football and basketball.

According to this article, it costs Pac 12 schools 15-25k to put on a live olympic sporting event. It will be less to put on ESPN + but when you factor in the amount of events school will have to produce, it will be add up. That guy's numbers are accurate.

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Jour...Pac12.aspx

No, they aren't. See Post #49. You just want them to be accurate.

(07-03-2019 07:56 PM)3rdWardCoog Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 07:34 PM)canewton Wrote:  I realize they may never join because of rivalries, but I'd like to see Colorado State join.

I'm with you. I think they are a school that no one talks about but could sneak in.

It would not even be a sneak. It would be a very good addition.

(07-04-2019 04:41 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 07:56 PM)3rdWardCoog Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 07:34 PM)canewton Wrote:  I realize they may never join because of rivalries, but I'd like to see Colorado State join.

I'm with you. I think they are a school that no one talks about but could sneak in.

It would not even be a sneak. It would be a very good addition.

Sounds like ODU, would join with solid basketball and decent football and would be here for the long haul, or until the league dissolved.

LOL ODU???? NO

(07-04-2019 06:00 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  LOL ODU???? NO

Your vote has been tabulated

(07-04-2019 06:04 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 06:00 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  LOL ODU???? NO

Your vote has been tabulated

lol......Im going to let him vote twice....again and again....

(07-04-2019 06:07 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 06:04 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 06:00 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  LOL ODU???? NO

Your vote has been tabulated

lol......Im going to let him vote twice....again and again....

He has my vote to vote also


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(07-04-2019 10:03 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 08:23 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 08:38 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Yikes... Doesn't look good at all for the MWC... If I am a mwc member I'll get the AAC on the horn asap... One huge problem though, majority of their members don't bring much to the table.

Look at the bottom-right corner of this page and looks like MW brings just as much to the table as AAC...
https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm

TV Networks want eyeballs...something AAC has delivered to them over and over again...from ABC to ESPN especially.

If MWC and AAC were really equal in value...then ESPN would be offering the MWC a $1 Billion Deal just like they gave the AAC.

LOL @ $1B. Are you on the Aresco compensation committee?

(07-04-2019 06:56 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 10:03 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(07-04-2019 08:23 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  

(07-03-2019 08:38 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Yikes... Doesn't look good at all for the MWC... If I am a mwc member I'll get the AAC on the horn asap... One huge problem though, majority of their members don't bring much to the table.

Look at the bottom-right corner of this page and looks like MW brings just as much to the table as AAC...
https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm

TV Networks want eyeballs...something AAC has delivered to them over and over again...from ABC to ESPN especially.

If MWC and AAC were really equal in value...then ESPN would be offering the MWC a $1 Billion Deal just like they gave the AAC.

LOL @ $1B. Are you on the Aresco compensation committee?

$1 billion is the AAC deal...lol. catch up