(06-22-2019 10:10 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 09:56 AM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Be interested to see what happens with football. Can’t imagine any conference is stupid enough to add them as FB only for a couple of basketball games each year

To the MAC with UMass?

Nah, I think UConn would see that as "stooping" too low.

(06-22-2019 10:10 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 09:56 AM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Be interested to see what happens with football. Can’t imagine any conference is stupid enough to add them as FB only for a couple of basketball games each year

To the MAC with UMass?

And that benefits the MAC how??? UMass and UConn are two bad football programs. Why would ESPN give the MAC more money for those 2 teams? You don't even need UMass, as travel partners are unnecessary for football.

AAC is going to raid the MWC aren't they? BYU's acting real weird right now like 2019 is the last year of college football. They've got some sort of artificial timeline in place that ends arter this year.

(06-22-2019 10:15 AM)Mav Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 10:08 AM)ccd494 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 09:58 AM)Mav Wrote:  https://twitter.com/ManthonyCourant/stat...2996346880
Why even bother splitting off if you're just going to let FBS flagship publics in anyway?
Dumb move on the Big East's part. UConn needs them more than they need UConn.

UConn or its status as a public was never the issue. Cincinnati, West Virginia, Rutgers, Louisville, all fine. When the football schools started needing to reach for the dregs like East Carolina, that was the final straw.

Right, and UConn's not just a public school, but a public school with FBS football. The Catholic 7 breaking off was a tactical retreat from the AAC schools making their conference more football-centric. The Big East was about similar profiles of universities, small private schools that wanted to play basketball at an elite level without sponsoring FBS football. Re-adding UConn isn't just an admission of failure on the part of UConn, but an admission that the Big East's "no FBS" approach is a failure as well.

Unfortunately, it appears that they have 100 million reasons to make this move. It makes me wonder who #12 is going to be.
https://twitter.com/NickMentaGC/status/1...6241059842

Nothing to say that the Big East would add a 12th member. They apparently like their double round robin in basketball, and 22 games is probably a bit too much.

(06-22-2019 10:16 AM)jrj84105 Wrote:  AAC is going to raid the MWC aren't they? BYU's acting real weird right now like 2019 is the last year of college football. They've got some sort of artificial timeline in place that ends arter this year.

UConn out of the picture could mean the AAC goes West.

Hartford Courant says sources confirm the story this morning:

"UConn is on the verge of joining the Big East for all sports that the conference sponsors, sources confirmed Saturday morning. Though the university is awaiting and fully expecting an official invitation from the Big East, an announcement of the Huskies' move is forthcoming.

This move will return UConn to its storied basketball roots and trigger long-term security and better opportunity for its two programs in that sport. However, UConn must figure out what to do with its football program. Dropping the program is not being considered. It is highly unlikely that the American Athletic Conference would have interest in retaining UConn as a football-only member, though with scheduling done well in advance the Huskies are expected to play in the AAC for the upcoming season.

For 2020, UConn will have to find another conference for football or have the program operate as an independent. Details are still being negotiated out on several fronts, including financial. UConn has explored a move to the Big East in recent years but found several sticking points, including high exit fees. The timing of the move for basketball is also uncertain. UConn had no comment Saturday. The move was first reported by Digital Sports Desk, a Boston-based website."


https://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-hus...story.html

(06-22-2019 10:08 AM)ccd494 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 09:58 AM)Mav Wrote:  https://twitter.com/ManthonyCourant/stat...2996346880
Why even bother splitting off if you're just going to let FBS flagship publics in anyway?
Dumb move on the Big East's part. UConn needs them more than they need UConn.

UConn or its status as a public was never the issue. Cincinnati, West Virginia, Rutgers, Louisville, all fine. When the football schools started needing to reach for the dregs like East Carolina, that was the final straw.

Not only that but the balance of power was more with the football schools even though it was split even 8 fb/ 8 non-fb.
Now the BE non-fb schools have the power even with 1 or 2 FBS football schools.

(06-22-2019 10:16 AM)jrj84105 Wrote:  AAC is going to raid the MWC aren't they? BYU's acting real weird right now like 2019 is the last year of college football. They've got some sort of artificial timeline in place that ends arter this year.

Cutting back is more in vogue for G5s, I'd say. If they can't land Army or BYU, then dropping Navy down to a partial scheduling agreement might be a preferable option to expansion. Fewer teams means a larger share of the postseason pot.

(06-22-2019 10:17 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 10:15 AM)Mav Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 10:08 AM)ccd494 Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 09:58 AM)Mav Wrote:  https://twitter.com/ManthonyCourant/stat...2996346880
Why even bother splitting off if you're just going to let FBS flagship publics in anyway?
Dumb move on the Big East's part. UConn needs them more than they need UConn.

UConn or its status as a public was never the issue. Cincinnati, West Virginia, Rutgers, Louisville, all fine. When the football schools started needing to reach for the dregs like East Carolina, that was the final straw.

Right, and UConn's not just a public school, but a public school with FBS football. The Catholic 7 breaking off was a tactical retreat from the AAC schools making their conference more football-centric. The Big East was about similar profiles of universities, small private schools that wanted to play basketball at an elite level without sponsoring FBS football. Re-adding UConn isn't just an admission of failure on the part of UConn, but an admission that the Big East's "no FBS" approach is a failure as well.

Unfortunately, it appears that they have 100 million reasons to make this move. It makes me wonder who #12 is going to be.
https://twitter.com/NickMentaGC/status/1...6241059842

Nothing to say that the Big East would add a 12th member. They apparently like their double round robin in basketball, and 22 games is probably a bit too much.

Well, they could either add UConn and divide that $42 million a year among 11 schools instead of 10, or they can add another, up the amount they get per year as a conference to $50 million and divide it 12 ways. Doing the math, they break even by going to 12 members, but lose money by going to 11.

500m/10 schools/12 years = $4.17 mil per school per year
500m/11 schools/12 years = $3.79 mil per school per year
600m/12 schools/12 years = $4.17 mil per school per year

If they're going to add UConn they'll need to bring in another to avoid getting a paycut. The deal's good through 2026, I want to say.

A flagship public school sticks out like a sore thumb in a conference of private schools. But, there is a history that both sides would like to reclaim. Plus, this just adds to the value of the Big East tournament in NYC.

UConn sees the writing on the wall, that they're not going to make it into a P5 conference. So, they're attempting to do the next best thing for their program. They see that they are a basketball school in a basketball region. Their best days were in the old Big East. The current Big East isn't the same, but it's close enough for them.

Big-time football was a worthy endeavor. It just hasn't worked out for them, especially once they were left in the AAC. But, as a flagship institution, and with the investment in the stadium in East Hartford, they still need to play football at the highest level possible. If they can pull off independence at the FBS level, it will be a good thing.

A wise solution to a bad situation.

(06-22-2019 05:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-21-2019 11:17 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Sounds like it comes directly from the Boneyard Carwash.

I would love for UConn to rejoin the Big East, and they are still smoldering about the TV deal Aresco just inked.

Nevertheless, I will believe it when I see it. I think this has maybe a 5% chance of being true.

You raise an interesting point. UConn officials were not happy about the possible loss of the YES women’s basketball deal which would be replaced by ESPN+ coverage. It was just a few years ago that the AAC had voted to let UConn keep all the money from that deal. Last we heard, the option to sublicense games to YES was still a possibility.

What if UConn is floating rumors of a return to the Big East as leverage to push ESPN to sublicense the UConn women’s basketball to YES.

Pete Thamel

@PeteThamel
Sources: UConn headed back to the Big East. Here's a dive on the details. What happens with TV deal? How does the AAC replace them? What does it mean for future of UConn football? https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-u-conn-...00471.html …


Sources: UConn move to the Big East inevitable
Calls with multiple sources on Saturday morning indicated to Yahoo Sports that a deal is being finalized for UConn to return to the Big East in basketball and other sports.

sports.yahoo.com

Looks like the story is true, UConn is indeed heading to the Big East.

(06-22-2019 10:32 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 05:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(06-21-2019 11:17 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Sounds like it comes directly from the Boneyard Carwash.

I would love for UConn to rejoin the Big East, and they are still smoldering about the TV deal Aresco just inked.

Nevertheless, I will believe it when I see it. I think this has maybe a 5% chance of being true.

You raise an interesting point. UConn officials were not happy about the possible loss of the YES women’s basketball deal which would be replaced by ESPN+ coverage. It was just a few years ago that the AAC had voted to let UConn keep all the money from that deal. Last we heard, the option to sublicense games to YES was still a possibility.

What if UConn is floating rumors of a return to the Big East as leverage to push ESPN to sublicense the UConn women’s basketball to YES.

It's SNY that has the sublicense, not YES.

Dang...This is pretty big realignment news for this summer. I guess the AAC isn't so good that even UConn wants to leave.

(06-22-2019 10:08 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 09:54 AM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  https://twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/...55680?s=21

"With that being said, we have been and remain proud members of the American Athletic Conference.”


The quote all schools says just before they move. So it must be true. Didn't seem like they denied it.

Unfortunately—-I have to agree. That weak azz non-denial essentially validates the story for me.

Why wouldn’t the AAC just let them stay for football only? It seems like the best medium term solution.

Otherwise they would have to kick someone out or add someone

(06-22-2019 10:41 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Why wouldn’t the AAC just let them stay for football only? It seems like the best medium term solution.

Otherwise they would have to kick someone out or add someone

May make sense for 1 year, but not more than that. That would let them have time to work on schedule, and AAC time to reload. And I would not give them more than 1/2 a football share in TV revenue for that year.

(06-22-2019 10:43 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(06-22-2019 10:41 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Why wouldn’t the AAC just let them stay for football only? It seems like the best medium term solution.

Otherwise they would have to kick someone out or add someone

May make sense for 1 year, but not more than that. That would let them have time to work on schedule, and AAC time to reload. And I would not give them more than 1/2 a football share in TV revenue for that year.

Yeah at least for 2020. Don’t think UConn can come anywhere close to putting together a schedule by then.

(06-22-2019 10:16 AM)jrj84105 Wrote:  AAC is going to raid the MWC aren't they? BYU's acting real weird right now like 2019 is the last year of college football. They've got some sort of artificial timeline in place that ends arter this year.

Do tell!

UMass
BYU
Army
Liberty
New Mexico State

That's 5 of 12 games you need right there for independent schedule.