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RE: Berkman stepping down at Second Baptist
(06-07-2019 03:43 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 01:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  give him two more years and evaluate at the end of year three.

Can we do interim evaluations on how things are going so far?

I would say so far, not so good.

Hope he turns it around over the next two years.

Separate thread for that. No need to go off on that tangent in this thread.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-877149.html
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RE: Berkman stepping down at Second Baptist
(06-07-2019 05:50 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 03:43 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 01:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  give him two more years and evaluate at the end of year three.

Can we do interim evaluations on how things are going so far?

I would say so far, not so good.

Hope he turns it around over the next two years.

Separate thread for that. No need to go off on that tangent in this thread.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-877149.html


Sorry. I thought Owl 69 was talking about Bragga.
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RE: Berkman stepping down at Second Baptist
(06-07-2019 02:28 PM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 02:12 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 01:37 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 01:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 09:08 AM)Volente Beach Owl Wrote:  The early results on Bragga are obviously not good. I'm not giving up on him at this point, and I am rooting for him to improve.
Berkman would have energized this program and it is a pity that we did not hire him.
I would not necessarily say results on Bragga are bad--more like incomplete. He took over a program that was hitting bottom after an amazing run of success, and he didn't win conference or get back to the dance. This year was neither dramatically better nor dramatically worse than last year. I'd say it's too early to tell. I do think he needs to get better at recruiting Texas, and failing to do that could be a show stopper, but at this point I don't see any reason to do anything other than give him two more years and evaluate at the end of year three.
Bragga has been recruiting Texas.. Nearly all of our commits hail from the state..
I didn't say he wasn't doing any, I said he needed to get better. He needs someone with long and deep ties to Texas HS coaches. Janish and Teykl have ties, for sure, but theirs are fairly short-term.
Not equating the two situations (at least, I certainly hope not) but most of Jerry Berndt's commits were from Texas. He had a capable staff, but they had few Texas connections, so they didn't have the rapport with Texas HS coaches that you need to get the best talent consistently.
Yanking scholarships from commits was a terrible start to his tenure in Texas. Texas HS coaches talk.

It was not a great move. You want to recruit well enough to win in any sport in Texas? You keep the HS coaches happy.
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RE: Berkman stepping down at Second Baptist
(06-08-2019 01:24 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 02:28 PM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 02:12 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 01:37 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 01:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I would not necessarily say results on Bragga are bad--more like incomplete. He took over a program that was hitting bottom after an amazing run of success, and he didn't win conference or get back to the dance. This year was neither dramatically better nor dramatically worse than last year. I'd say it's too early to tell. I do think he needs to get better at recruiting Texas, and failing to do that could be a show stopper, but at this point I don't see any reason to do anything other than give him two more years and evaluate at the end of year three.
Bragga has been recruiting Texas.. Nearly all of our commits hail from the state..
I didn't say he wasn't doing any, I said he needed to get better. He needs someone with long and deep ties to Texas HS coaches. Janish and Teykl have ties, for sure, but theirs are fairly short-term.
Not equating the two situations (at least, I certainly hope not) but most of Jerry Berndt's commits were from Texas. He had a capable staff, but they had few Texas connections, so they didn't have the rapport with Texas HS coaches that you need to get the best talent consistently.
Yanking scholarships from commits was a terrible start to his tenure in Texas. Texas HS coaches talk.

It was not a great move. You want to recruit well enough to win in any sport in Texas? You keep the HS coaches happy.

Absolutely. Especially when you consider one of the recruits stepdad is a longtime HS coach in the Houston area with lots of friends and colleagues. Bragga didn’t know that, of course, because he never bothered to meet the kid or his family. That was a terrible move. Maybe that’s how they do things at the prestigious Tennessee Tech but not down here...
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RE: Berkman stepping down at Second Baptist
(06-08-2019 08:31 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 01:24 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 02:28 PM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 02:12 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 01:37 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Bragga has been recruiting Texas.. Nearly all of our commits hail from the state..
I didn't say he wasn't doing any, I said he needed to get better. He needs someone with long and deep ties to Texas HS coaches. Janish and Teykl have ties, for sure, but theirs are fairly short-term.
Not equating the two situations (at least, I certainly hope not) but most of Jerry Berndt's commits were from Texas. He had a capable staff, but they had few Texas connections, so they didn't have the rapport with Texas HS coaches that you need to get the best talent consistently.
Yanking scholarships from commits was a terrible start to his tenure in Texas. Texas HS coaches talk.

It was not a great move. You want to recruit well enough to win in any sport in Texas? You keep the HS coaches happy.

Absolutely. Especially when you consider one of the recruits stepdad is a longtime HS coach in the Houston area with lots of friends and colleagues. Bragga didn’t know that, of course, because he never bothered to meet the kid or his family. That was a terrible move. Maybe that’s how they do things at the prestigious Tennessee Tech but not down here...

So has Bragga recovered from the misstep? It's a new year. What's the relationship now with Texas select teams and HS coaches? Not trolling, curious if he's recovered a bit.
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RE: Berkman stepping down at Second Baptist
(06-08-2019 08:50 AM)ausowl Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 08:31 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 01:24 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 02:28 PM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 02:12 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I didn't say he wasn't doing any, I said he needed to get better. He needs someone with long and deep ties to Texas HS coaches. Janish and Teykl have ties, for sure, but theirs are fairly short-term.
Not equating the two situations (at least, I certainly hope not) but most of Jerry Berndt's commits were from Texas. He had a capable staff, but they had few Texas connections, so they didn't have the rapport with Texas HS coaches that you need to get the best talent consistently.
Yanking scholarships from commits was a terrible start to his tenure in Texas. Texas HS coaches talk.

It was not a great move. You want to recruit well enough to win in any sport in Texas? You keep the HS coaches happy.

Absolutely. Especially when you consider one of the recruits stepdad is a longtime HS coach in the Houston area with lots of friends and colleagues. Bragga didn’t know that, of course, because he never bothered to meet the kid or his family. That was a terrible move. Maybe that’s how they do things at the prestigious Tennessee Tech but not down here...

So has Bragga recovered from the misstep? It's a new year. What's the relationship now with Texas select teams and HS coaches? Not trolling, curious if he's recovered a bit.

That’s a good question. The teams that I deal with who had kids committed there and yanked by Bragga, have all told me they will not recommend their kids to Rice. How true that is...who knows...it’s still too early to tell. What I do know is that those travel teams who previously did private scrimmages and workouts at Rice are no longer doing them. That doesn’t mean other teams won’t...but the ones I know directly have moved their workouts elsewhere. UIW just hosted one big select team 2 weeks ago that previously went to Rice that weekend. The conversation I had that sticks in my mind last August with a D1 Head Coach (who won a conference title this year) summed it up for me...he said “I hate that it happened to those kids but I’m not gonna lie....it’s good for us. We will use that against them when we’re recruiting the same kids.”

Truth is, we may never know the full impact. Some kids will still sign with Rice. But there will always be a feeling (to me) about what kids did we miss out on because of this? That can never be measured.
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RE: Berkman stepping down at Second Baptist
(06-08-2019 09:01 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 08:50 AM)ausowl Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 08:31 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 01:24 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(06-07-2019 02:28 PM)Owl1998 Wrote:  Yanking scholarships from commits was a terrible start to his tenure in Texas. Texas HS coaches talk.

It was not a great move. You want to recruit well enough to win in any sport in Texas? You keep the HS coaches happy.

Absolutely. Especially when you consider one of the recruits stepdad is a longtime HS coach in the Houston area with lots of friends and colleagues. Bragga didn’t know that, of course, because he never bothered to meet the kid or his family. That was a terrible move. Maybe that’s how they do things at the prestigious Tennessee Tech but not down here...

So has Bragga recovered from the misstep? It's a new year. What's the relationship now with Texas select teams and HS coaches? Not trolling, curious if he's recovered a bit.

That’s a good question. The teams that I deal with who had kids committed there and yanked by Bragga, have all told me they will not recommend their kids to Rice. How true that is...who knows...it’s still too early to tell. What I do know is that those travel teams who previously did private scrimmages and workouts at Rice are no longer doing them. That doesn’t mean other teams won’t...but the ones I know directly have moved their workouts elsewhere. UIW just hosted one big select team 2 weeks ago that previously went to Rice that weekend. The conversation I had that sticks in my mind last August with a D1 Head Coach (who won a conference title this year) summed it up for me...he said “I hate that it happened to those kids but I’m not gonna lie....it’s good for us. We will use that against them when we’re recruiting the same kids.”

Truth is, we may never know the full impact. Some kids will still sign with Rice. But there will always be a feeling (to me) about what kids did we miss out on because of this? That can never be measured.

Must we keep beating a dead horse? Must you post every time Kiddy has a good outing? Most of us got the gist of your message the first time. And the reality is that the 2020 (not the one matriculating this Fall) is shaping up as our best in years, including a couple standouts from local traveling teams. Bragga and Barton have also been working the high school coaches conferences and, based on various twitter posts, have been getting very good reviews.

I'm not debating whether Bragga made some missteps early on-- I'll take your word on that, but he and Barton appear to have made the necessary corrections.
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RE: Berkman stepping down at Second Baptist
(06-08-2019 09:09 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:01 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 08:50 AM)ausowl Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 08:31 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 01:24 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  It was not a great move. You want to recruit well enough to win in any sport in Texas? You keep the HS coaches happy.

Absolutely. Especially when you consider one of the recruits stepdad is a longtime HS coach in the Houston area with lots of friends and colleagues. Bragga didn’t know that, of course, because he never bothered to meet the kid or his family. That was a terrible move. Maybe that’s how they do things at the prestigious Tennessee Tech but not down here...

So has Bragga recovered from the misstep? It's a new year. What's the relationship now with Texas select teams and HS coaches? Not trolling, curious if he's recovered a bit.

That’s a good question. The teams that I deal with who had kids committed there and yanked by Bragga, have all told me they will not recommend their kids to Rice. How true that is...who knows...it’s still too early to tell. What I do know is that those travel teams who previously did private scrimmages and workouts at Rice are no longer doing them. That doesn’t mean other teams won’t...but the ones I know directly have moved their workouts elsewhere. UIW just hosted one big select team 2 weeks ago that previously went to Rice that weekend. The conversation I had that sticks in my mind last August with a D1 Head Coach (who won a conference title this year) summed it up for me...he said “I hate that it happened to those kids but I’m not gonna lie....it’s good for us. We will use that against them when we’re recruiting the same kids.”

Truth is, we may never know the full impact. Some kids will still sign with Rice. But there will always be a feeling (to me) about what kids did we miss out on because of this? That can never be measured.

Must we keep beating a dead horse? Must you post every time Kiddy has a good outing? Most of us got the gist of your message the first time. And the reality is that the 2020 (not the one matriculating this Fall) is shaping up as our best in years, including a couple standouts from local traveling teams. Bragga and Barton have also been working the high school coaches conferences and, based on various twitter posts, have been getting very good reviews.

I'm not debating whether Bragga made some missteps early on-- I'll take your word on that, but he and Barton appear to have made the necessary corrections.

Hey Walt....respectfully....I will say whatever the hell I want to say. Your delusional entitlement to “run the narrative” on all things Rice Baseball is beyond annoying and increasingly narcissistic. Basically how you feel about Trump is how many of us are starting to feel about your behavior on here. Now, unlike you, I will defend your right to say whatever you want but I will not bow down to your imaginary authority. And referencing Kiddy a few times lately had to do with the fact that he was still playing and I cover HS recruits for a living. If Flannery or any of the other multiple kids who were yanked were still playing, I would have referenced them as well.

Your passion for Rice is unmatched. I respect your opinion. And I will never tell you to shut your mouth about any issue even if I disagree with it. You don’t run me or anyone else here so if you don’t like what I have to say, fine. Ignore it, jump back to your twitter troll job, and have a great day.
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(06-08-2019 09:09 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  I'm not debating whether Bragga made some missteps early on-- I'll take your word on that, but he and Barton appear to have made the necessary corrections.

I hope and want to believe that this is the case. You only get one chance to make a first impression. And this was not a good one. It's also a lot easier to recover from a bad first step if you don't make it to begin with.
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(06-08-2019 09:19 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:09 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  I'm not debating whether Bragga made some missteps early on-- I'll take your word on that, but he and Barton appear to have made the necessary corrections.

I hope and want to believe that this is the case. You only get one chance to make a first impression. And this was not a good one. It's also a lot easier to recover from a bad first step if you don't make it to begin with.

We’ve all heard over and over again how Bragga made a mistake with some recruits. That may be true or it might not be, either way his first real class (2020) is shaping up to look pretty good. Let’s not forget in baseball they commit so early his 2019 class is a lot like Bloomgren’s or Pera’s... when he started he was way behind.

If we didn’t drop a few HS guys we couldn’t sign the JUCO guys we have coming. We need to get back to winning now.
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(06-08-2019 09:33 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:19 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:09 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  I'm not debating whether Bragga made some missteps early on-- I'll take your word on that, but he and Barton appear to have made the necessary corrections.

I hope and want to believe that this is the case. You only get one chance to make a first impression. And this was not a good one. It's also a lot easier to recover from a bad first step if you don't make it to begin with.

We’ve all heard over and over again how Bragga made a mistake with some recruits. That may be true or it might not be, either way his first real class (2020) is shaping up to look pretty good. Let’s not forget in baseball they commit so early his 2019 class is a lot like Bloomgren’s or Pera’s... when he started he was way behind.

If we didn’t drop a few HS guys we couldn’t sign the JUCO guys we have coming. We need to get back to winning now.

Now see...this is how you disagree with someone without sounding like a total jerk. Thank you for not being like Walt. Civil discourse is a lost art.
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(06-08-2019 09:37 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:33 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:19 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:09 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  I'm not debating whether Bragga made some missteps early on-- I'll take your word on that, but he and Barton appear to have made the necessary corrections.

I hope and want to believe that this is the case. You only get one chance to make a first impression. And this was not a good one. It's also a lot easier to recover from a bad first step if you don't make it to begin with.

We’ve all heard over and over again how Bragga made a mistake with some recruits. That may be true or it might not be, either way his first real class (2020) is shaping up to look pretty good. Let’s not forget in baseball they commit so early his 2019 class is a lot like Bloomgren’s or Pera’s... when he started he was way behind.

If we didn’t drop a few HS guys we couldn’t sign the JUCO guys we have coming. We need to get back to winning now.

Now see...this is how you disagree with someone without sounding like a total jerk. Thank you for not being like Walt. Civil discourse is a lost art.

Give me a break. Try reading my above post without a jaundiced eye. I said the EXACT same thing cr11Owl did. Hey, but keep personally attacking me if it makes you feel better.
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(06-08-2019 09:39 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:37 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:33 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:19 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:09 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  I'm not debating whether Bragga made some missteps early on-- I'll take your word on that, but he and Barton appear to have made the necessary corrections.

I hope and want to believe that this is the case. You only get one chance to make a first impression. And this was not a good one. It's also a lot easier to recover from a bad first step if you don't make it to begin with.

We’ve all heard over and over again how Bragga made a mistake with some recruits. That may be true or it might not be, either way his first real class (2020) is shaping up to look pretty good. Let’s not forget in baseball they commit so early his 2019 class is a lot like Bloomgren’s or Pera’s... when he started he was way behind.

If we didn’t drop a few HS guys we couldn’t sign the JUCO guys we have coming. We need to get back to winning now.

Now see...this is how you disagree with someone without sounding like a total jerk. Thank you for not being like Walt. Civil discourse is a lost art.

Give me a break. Try reading my above post without a jaundiced eye. I said the EXACT same thing cr11Owl did. Hey, but keep personally attacking me if it makes you feel better.

You really are something else, Walt....attack people, belittle people for different opinions, give arrogant and condescending remarks about how stupid everyone else is....then, when called out for it, turn the narrative into “stop attacking me”....

I’m done with you. I really am. I’ve tried multiple times to disagree with you civilly and I’ve defended your right to your opinions no matter how many times you knew nothing about which you were speaking.

To those of you on here that have respectfully asked questions regarding recruiting and travel ball, I appreciate you and feel free to DM anytime you want. But I will not have my posts quoted and belittled by this person any longer.

Later fellas...
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I talked with Matt about this a while back. He said he had no input into this year's team, and no disrespect to the previous staff, but he wanted to have at least some of his players for his 2nd year. I asked how he chose and he said he watched them play. Maybe he made a mistake on Kiddy, but this was a one-time thing and not something you can recruit against. He was shocked we didn't have any first basemen on the roster, and he wanted to build his team on his philosophy. His dad told me they always had two big guys who could field and had a little punch, one for 1st and one to DH. Like everyone else Bragga isn't perfect, but the players love him and I haven't found anyone who's met him that doesn't like him.
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(06-08-2019 09:50 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:39 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:37 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:33 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:19 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I hope and want to believe that this is the case. You only get one chance to make a first impression. And this was not a good one. It's also a lot easier to recover from a bad first step if you don't make it to begin with.

We’ve all heard over and over again how Bragga made a mistake with some recruits. That may be true or it might not be, either way his first real class (2020) is shaping up to look pretty good. Let’s not forget in baseball they commit so early his 2019 class is a lot like Bloomgren’s or Pera’s... when he started he was way behind.

If we didn’t drop a few HS guys we couldn’t sign the JUCO guys we have coming. We need to get back to winning now.

Now see...this is how you disagree with someone without sounding like a total jerk. Thank you for not being like Walt. Civil discourse is a lost art.

Give me a break. Try reading my above post without a jaundiced eye. I said the EXACT same thing cr11Owl did. Hey, but keep personally attacking me if it makes you feel better.

You really are something else, Walt....attack people, belittle people for different opinions, give arrogant and condescending remarks about how stupid everyone else is....then, when called out for it, turn the narrative into “stop attacking me”....

I’m done with you. I really am. I’ve tried multiple times to disagree with you civilly and I’ve defended your right to your opinions no matter how many times you knew nothing about which you were speaking.

To those of you on here that have respectfully asked questions regarding recruiting and travel ball, I appreciate you and feel free to DM anytime you want. But I will not have my posts quoted and belittled by this person any longer.

Later fellas...

I wouldn’t say calling Walt delusional or trying to belittle him via political commentary is civil.

I’ve had multiple disagreements with Walt over the years, but maybe don’t throw stones from a glass house about civility when you certainly were not meeting that standard.
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(06-08-2019 02:01 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:50 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:39 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:37 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:33 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  We’ve all heard over and over again how Bragga made a mistake with some recruits. That may be true or it might not be, either way his first real class (2020) is shaping up to look pretty good. Let’s not forget in baseball they commit so early his 2019 class is a lot like Bloomgren’s or Pera’s... when he started he was way behind.

If we didn’t drop a few HS guys we couldn’t sign the JUCO guys we have coming. We need to get back to winning now.

Now see...this is how you disagree with someone without sounding like a total jerk. Thank you for not being like Walt. Civil discourse is a lost art.

Give me a break. Try reading my above post without a jaundiced eye. I said the EXACT same thing cr11Owl did. Hey, but keep personally attacking me if it makes you feel better.

You really are something else, Walt....attack people, belittle people for different opinions, give arrogant and condescending remarks about how stupid everyone else is....then, when called out for it, turn the narrative into “stop attacking me”....

I’m done with you. I really am. I’ve tried multiple times to disagree with you civilly and I’ve defended your right to your opinions no matter how many times you knew nothing about which you were speaking.

To those of you on here that have respectfully asked questions regarding recruiting and travel ball, I appreciate you and feel free to DM anytime you want. But I will not have my posts quoted and belittled by this person any longer.

Later fellas...

I wouldn’t say calling Walt delusional or trying to belittle him via political commentary is civil.

I’ve had multiple disagreements with Walt over the years, but maybe don’t throw stones from a glass house about civility when you certainly were not meeting that standard.

Ok ?
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RE: Berkman stepping down at Second Baptist
(06-08-2019 02:01 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:50 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:39 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:37 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(06-08-2019 09:33 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  We’ve all heard over and over again how Bragga made a mistake with some recruits. That may be true or it might not be, either way his first real class (2020) is shaping up to look pretty good. Let’s not forget in baseball they commit so early his 2019 class is a lot like Bloomgren’s or Pera’s... when he started he was way behind.

If we didn’t drop a few HS guys we couldn’t sign the JUCO guys we have coming. We need to get back to winning now.

Now see...this is how you disagree with someone without sounding like a total jerk. Thank you for not being like Walt. Civil discourse is a lost art.

Give me a break. Try reading my above post without a jaundiced eye. I said the EXACT same thing cr11Owl did. Hey, but keep personally attacking me if it makes you feel better.

You really are something else, Walt....attack people, belittle people for different opinions, give arrogant and condescending remarks about how stupid everyone else is....then, when called out for it, turn the narrative into “stop attacking me”....

I’m done with you. I really am. I’ve tried multiple times to disagree with you civilly and I’ve defended your right to your opinions no matter how many times you knew nothing about which you were speaking.

To those of you on here that have respectfully asked questions regarding recruiting and travel ball, I appreciate you and feel free to DM anytime you want. But I will not have my posts quoted and belittled by this person any longer.

Later fellas...

I wouldn’t say calling Walt delusional or trying to belittle him via political commentary is civil.

I’ve had multiple disagreements with Walt over the years, but maybe don’t throw stones from a glass house about civility when you certainly were not meeting that standard.

Ironic.
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RE: Berkman stepping down at Second Baptist
(06-08-2019 09:53 AM)bobreinhold1 Wrote:  I talked with Matt about this a while back. He said he had no input into this year's team, and no disrespect to the previous staff, but he wanted to have at least some of his players for his 2nd year. I asked how he chose and he said he watched them play. Maybe he made a mistake on Kiddy, but this was a one-time thing and not something you can recruit against. He was shocked we didn't have any first basemen on the roster, and he wanted to build his team on his philosophy. His dad told me they always had two big guys who could field and had a little punch, one for 1st and one to DH. Like everyone else Bragga isn't perfect, but the players love him and I haven't found anyone who's met him that doesn't like him.

I like what I know of Matt, and I certainly wish him every success. The way the Graham exit was handled left a bad taste in my mouth, but that's not Matt's fault. I just wish he hadn't pulled Kiddy's offer. Did he pull any others? I really haven't followed that closely and I don't know. I just don't like that practice, and I have seen it come back to haunt. So, a couple of bad tastes.

I think if I were an AD, I'd make it a rule that we don't. I really disliked it wen Todd pulled the Lassley kid's offer, and I think that foreshadowed the dark side of Todd. I don't see signs of the same darkness with Bragga, but I just don't like the practice. I just think honoring commitments means more than the impact of one person on your program.
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RE: Berkman stepping down at Second Baptist
Not sure if it was mentioned on any of the broadcasts over the weekend, but Lance told a mutual friend (and former Rice teammate) today that he will be in the booth for the Astros games tonight and tomorrow night.

Just wanted to share for any of the people here who still like Lance, he has been entertaining when in the booth previously.
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(06-11-2019 02:35 PM)Scooter Wrote:  Not sure if it was mentioned on any of the broadcasts over the weekend, but Lance told a mutual friend (and former Rice teammate) today that he will be in the booth for the Astros games tonight and tomorrow night.

Just wanted to share for any of the people here who still like Lance, he has been entertaining when in the booth previously.

I think most of us like Lance - a lot.
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