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RE: Bowen BOH
(05-14-2019 10:33 AM)tiger86 Wrote: (05-14-2019 09:57 AM)Tigx Wrote: (05-14-2019 09:54 AM)tiger86 Wrote: I would like to thank Tom Bowen for the fantastic job he did while here.
As I think back to the reign of terror wrought by RC the buffoon for 20 years, how lucky we were to have had someone who actually knew what to do, how to do it, and actually did it.
That National Championship game in San Antonio was pretty terrible. How did we survive his reign of terror?
Just because RC was below average and had bad hair doesn't mean Bowen was better. Unfortunately, Bowen doesn't interview well, or he would have been gone a long time ago.
If you are even attempting to compare Bowen and RC, I don't know what to tell you.
RC had as much to do with the 2008 Natl Championship game as I did. Actually less. I at least bought season tickets that year. We were there IN SPITE of him, not BECAUSE of him.
Yeah, RC's style was do whatever Cal wants. That blew up in our face. Bowen was better than RC. Rudd is better than both. Until Rudd gives me a reason to think otherwise, I trust him with academic and athletic improvements.
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RE: Bowen BOH
(05-14-2019 10:38 AM)WiseMan Wrote: (05-14-2019 09:28 AM)cmt Wrote: (05-14-2019 09:19 AM)fsquid Wrote: I guess Calkins was tipped off, he already had a column ready to go.
https://dailymemphian.com/section/sports..._bJCj0YPw0
He said he knew already, but waited for confirmation. Why would you need to quit before being offered the Sunbelt Commissioner?
Geoff and I discussed this in March. Handwriting on the wall.
Cato and I discussed this last fall, while sipping mai tai's on the Bahama Breeze patio.
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RE: Bowen BOH
I guess my biggest hope is we hire someone who actually wants to be here and not looking for a bigger, better, deal the very next day after being hired.
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RE: Bowen BOH
(05-14-2019 11:10 AM)memtigbb Wrote: I guess my biggest hope is we hire someone who actually wants to be here and not looking for a bigger, better, deal the very next day after being hired.
And who realizes that the AD role at our school is a marketing and sales role, in addition to hiring the right people and deciding how to allocate resources. (Dr. Rudd and the exec. committee hire and fire the football and men's hoops coaches anyway, but that's a different point.) That is why I prefer someone like Wren Baker, who has energy and is an upbeat speaker and promoter of the program.
We should be hearing from our new AD constantly, on any radio or pod that will have him, pumping the programs, especially football, and trying to generate excitement. Twitter and instagram are free, did Bowen even have a twitter or instagram account?
The atrocity of our future OOC football schedule will have to be dealt with. Will cost money to get us out of some of these ridiculous home and home contracts.
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RE: Bowen BOH
I like Alnutt, Baker or Duncan. Maybe N.O. would be greater experience for Tim but Tim has great experience with budgets at D2 schools without the resources Memphis has. Bowen was great identifying people that helped and went on the AD jobs around the nation. If Bowen former people don't want to be considered it could indicate they don't want to deal with Rudd. We should see someone good in that spot though.
(This post was last modified: 05-14-2019 11:28 AM by rolexjames.)
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RE: Bowen BOH
(05-14-2019 10:42 AM)cmt Wrote: Bowen hired Tubby over Rudd's uncertainty. Bowen was against firing Tubby and hiring Penny over Rudd's order to do so.
good riddance Tom
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RE: Bowen BOH
(05-14-2019 11:18 AM)Tigx Wrote: (05-14-2019 11:10 AM)memtigbb Wrote: I guess my biggest hope is we hire someone who actually wants to be here and not looking for a bigger, better, deal the very next day after being hired.
And who realizes that the AD role at our school is a marketing and sales role, in addition to hiring the right people and deciding how to allocate resources. (Dr. Rudd and the exec. committee hire and fire the football and men's hoops coaches anyway, but that's a different point.) That is why I prefer someone like Wren Baker, who has energy and is an upbeat speaker and promoter of the program.
We should be hearing from our new AD constantly, on any radio or pod that will have him, pumping the programs, especially football, and trying to generate excitement. Twitter and instagram are free, did Bowen even have a twitter or instagram account?
The atrocity of our future OOC football schedule will have to be dealt with. Will cost money to get us out of some of these ridiculous home and home contracts.
If the landscape of college football change where we could be considered for a playoff spot our football OOC schedule would hurt us. Imagine if the playoff expanded to 8 and we missed out because we are 12-0 but didn't play anyone respectable or heavens forbid we lose to Georgia State on the road.
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RE: Bowen BOH
(05-14-2019 11:31 AM)rolexjames Wrote: (05-14-2019 11:18 AM)Tigx Wrote: (05-14-2019 11:10 AM)memtigbb Wrote: I guess my biggest hope is we hire someone who actually wants to be here and not looking for a bigger, better, deal the very next day after being hired.
And who realizes that the AD role at our school is a marketing and sales role, in addition to hiring the right people and deciding how to allocate resources. (Dr. Rudd and the exec. committee hire and fire the football and men's hoops coaches anyway, but that's a different point.) That is why I prefer someone like Wren Baker, who has energy and is an upbeat speaker and promoter of the program.
We should be hearing from our new AD constantly, on any radio or pod that will have him, pumping the programs, especially football, and trying to generate excitement. Twitter and instagram are free, did Bowen even have a twitter or instagram account?
The atrocity of our future OOC football schedule will have to be dealt with. Will cost money to get us out of some of these ridiculous home and home contracts.
If the landscape of college football change where we could be considered for a playoff spot our football OOC schedule would hurt us. Imagine if the playoff expanded to 8 and we missed out because we are 12-0 but didn't play anyone respectable or heavens forbid we lose to Georgia State on the road.
Well since that isn't happening in a decade, we are good.
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RE: Bowen BOH
92.9 is skewering Boowen, it's hilarious - "you can't neglect basketball while focusing on making football healthy....bball still the front porch for UM"
saying Rudd went to Prescott awhile ago about the interim AD oppty
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RE: Bowen BOH
(05-14-2019 11:18 AM)Tigx Wrote: (05-14-2019 11:10 AM)memtigbb Wrote: I guess my biggest hope is we hire someone who actually wants to be here and not looking for a bigger, better, deal the very next day after being hired.
And who realizes that the AD role at our school is a marketing and sales role, in addition to hiring the right people and deciding how to allocate resources. (Dr. Rudd and the exec. committee hire and fire the football and men's hoops coaches anyway, but that's a different point.) That is why I prefer someone like Wren Baker, who has energy and is an upbeat speaker and promoter of the program.
We should be hearing from our new AD constantly, on any radio or pod that will have him, pumping the programs, especially football, and trying to generate excitement. Twitter and instagram are free, did Bowen even have a twitter or instagram account?
The atrocity of our future OOC football schedule will have to be dealt with. Will cost money to get us out of some of these ridiculous home and home contracts.
Nope. Bowen never touched social media. That's what I meant about Rudd being more visible as the face of the department. He constantly pumps Tiger athletics on Twitter.
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RE: Bowen BOH
(05-14-2019 10:38 AM)Tigx Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:33 AM)tiger86 Wrote: (05-14-2019 09:57 AM)Tigx Wrote: (05-14-2019 09:54 AM)tiger86 Wrote: I would like to thank Tom Bowen for the fantastic job he did while here.
As I think back to the reign of terror wrought by RC the buffoon for 20 years, how lucky we were to have had someone who actually knew what to do, how to do it, and actually did it.
That National Championship game in San Antonio was pretty terrible. How did we survive his reign of terror?
Just because RC was below average and had bad hair doesn't mean Bowen was better. Unfortunately, Bowen doesn't interview well, or he would have been gone a long time ago.
If you are even attempting to compare Bowen and RC, I don't know what to tell you.
Whatever your opinion, we were there. That's all the really counts, right? Not exactly a reign of terror when the football program starts making bowl games under Tommy, and the basketball team reaches new heights for years. RC was no prize, Bowen was worse.
There was a really good reason why Bill Laurie wasn't involved with Tiger athletics until RC left.
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RE: Bowen BOH
(05-14-2019 10:42 AM)cmt Wrote: Bowen hired Tubby over Rudd's uncertainty. Bowen was against firing Tubby and hiring Penny over Rudd's order to do so.
Bowen hired who he was told to hire, and fired him when those same people realized it was better to pay Tubby to not be employed here (can't say work because he didn't) than be employed here.
Bill Laurie, Rita Sparks, John Stokes, Alan Graf, Fred Smith, et al decide who the coaches are, when to hire and when to fire. To suggest otherwise is silly.
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RE: Bowen BOH
(05-14-2019 12:55 PM)tiger86 Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:42 AM)cmt Wrote: Bowen hired Tubby over Rudd's uncertainty. Bowen was against firing Tubby and hiring Penny over Rudd's order to do so.
Bowen hired who he was told to hire, and fired him when those same people realized it was better to pay Tubby to not be employed here (can't say work because he didn't) than be employed here.
Bill Laurie, Rita Sparks, John Stokes, Alan Graf, Fred Smith, et al decide who the coaches are, when to hire and when to fire. To suggest otherwise is silly.
Very true. He who has the gold makes the rules and they all signed off on Tubby at the beginning so much so that coughed up another million per year when Tech made a counter offer at the last hour.
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RE: Bowen BOH
(05-14-2019 11:27 AM)rolexjames Wrote: I like Alnutt, Baker or Duncan. Maybe N.O. would be greater experience for Tim but Tim has great experience with budgets at D2 schools without the resources Memphis has. Bowen was great identifying people that helped and went on the AD jobs around the nation. If Bowen former people don't want to be considered it could indicate they don't want to deal with Rudd. We should see someone good in that spot though.
Talked to Tim. He would love to be involved.
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RE: Bowen BOH
(05-14-2019 12:52 PM)tiger86 Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:38 AM)Tigx Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:33 AM)tiger86 Wrote: (05-14-2019 09:57 AM)Tigx Wrote: (05-14-2019 09:54 AM)tiger86 Wrote: I would like to thank Tom Bowen for the fantastic job he did while here.
As I think back to the reign of terror wrought by RC the buffoon for 20 years, how lucky we were to have had someone who actually knew what to do, how to do it, and actually did it.
That National Championship game in San Antonio was pretty terrible. How did we survive his reign of terror?
Just because RC was below average and had bad hair doesn't mean Bowen was better. Unfortunately, Bowen doesn't interview well, or he would have been gone a long time ago.
If you are even attempting to compare Bowen and RC, I don't know what to tell you.
Whatever your opinion, we were there. That's all the really counts, right? Not exactly a reign of terror when the football program starts making bowl games under Tommy, and the basketball team reaches new heights for years. RC was no prize, Bowen was worse.
There was a really good reason why Bill Laurie wasn't involved with Tiger athletics until RC left.
The absence of RC doesn't mean Tom Bowen had anything to do with Laurie's contribution.
Brad Martin and Laurie have been friends forever. Martin, as interim Prez, was the impetus for the Laurie re-involvement and contribution for the Laurie Center.
Brad Martin became the interim President in April of 2013. The Laurie donation was announced in December of 2013.
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RE: Bowen BOH
(05-14-2019 01:46 PM)Tigx Wrote: (05-14-2019 12:52 PM)tiger86 Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:38 AM)Tigx Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:33 AM)tiger86 Wrote: (05-14-2019 09:57 AM)Tigx Wrote: That National Championship game in San Antonio was pretty terrible. How did we survive his reign of terror?
Just because RC was below average and had bad hair doesn't mean Bowen was better. Unfortunately, Bowen doesn't interview well, or he would have been gone a long time ago.
If you are even attempting to compare Bowen and RC, I don't know what to tell you.
Whatever your opinion, we were there. That's all the really counts, right? Not exactly a reign of terror when the football program starts making bowl games under Tommy, and the basketball team reaches new heights for years. RC was no prize, Bowen was worse.
There was a really good reason why Bill Laurie wasn't involved with Tiger athletics until RC left.
The absence of RC doesn't mean Tom Bowen had anything to do with Laurie's contribution.
Brad Martin and Laurie have been friends forever. Martin, as interim Prez, was the impetus for the Laurie re-involvement and contribution for the Laurie Center.
Brad Martin became the interim President in April of 2013. The Laurie donation was announced in December of 2013.
Whatever you say. They were friends for the 17 years RC was AD as well.
Just think Larry's "retirement".
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RE: Bowen BOH
(05-14-2019 02:00 PM)tiger86 Wrote: (05-14-2019 01:46 PM)Tigx Wrote: (05-14-2019 12:52 PM)tiger86 Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:38 AM)Tigx Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:33 AM)tiger86 Wrote: If you are even attempting to compare Bowen and RC, I don't know what to tell you.
Whatever your opinion, we were there. That's all the really counts, right? Not exactly a reign of terror when the football program starts making bowl games under Tommy, and the basketball team reaches new heights for years. RC was no prize, Bowen was worse.
There was a really good reason why Bill Laurie wasn't involved with Tiger athletics until RC left.
The absence of RC doesn't mean Tom Bowen had anything to do with Laurie's contribution.
Brad Martin and Laurie have been friends forever. Martin, as interim Prez, was the impetus for the Laurie re-involvement and contribution for the Laurie Center.
Brad Martin became the interim President in April of 2013. The Laurie donation was announced in December of 2013.
Whatever you say. They were friends for the 17 years RC was AD as well.
Brad Martin wasn't the interim President for those 17 years.
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RE: Bowen BOH
(05-14-2019 02:02 PM)Tigx Wrote: (05-14-2019 02:00 PM)tiger86 Wrote: (05-14-2019 01:46 PM)Tigx Wrote: (05-14-2019 12:52 PM)tiger86 Wrote: (05-14-2019 10:38 AM)Tigx Wrote: Whatever your opinion, we were there. That's all the really counts, right? Not exactly a reign of terror when the football program starts making bowl games under Tommy, and the basketball team reaches new heights for years. RC was no prize, Bowen was worse.
There was a really good reason why Bill Laurie wasn't involved with Tiger athletics until RC left.
The absence of RC doesn't mean Tom Bowen had anything to do with Laurie's contribution.
Brad Martin and Laurie have been friends forever. Martin, as interim Prez, was the impetus for the Laurie re-involvement and contribution for the Laurie Center.
Brad Martin became the interim President in April of 2013. The Laurie donation was announced in December of 2013.
Whatever you say. They were friends for the 17 years RC was AD as well.
Brad Martin wasn't the interim President for those 17 years.
On this we agree. Between Lame Rawlins and Shirley Temple, I am sure there was reluctance to engage on his part.
But RC was the target of Bill Laurie's ire I assure you.
Let's just be thankful Dr. Rudd is here and that we will get a great AD to replace Bowen.
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RE: Bowen BOH
(05-14-2019 02:12 PM)tiger86 Wrote: (05-14-2019 02:02 PM)Tigx Wrote: (05-14-2019 02:00 PM)tiger86 Wrote: (05-14-2019 01:46 PM)Tigx Wrote: (05-14-2019 12:52 PM)tiger86 Wrote: There was a really good reason why Bill Laurie wasn't involved with Tiger athletics until RC left.
The absence of RC doesn't mean Tom Bowen had anything to do with Laurie's contribution.
Brad Martin and Laurie have been friends forever. Martin, as interim Prez, was the impetus for the Laurie re-involvement and contribution for the Laurie Center.
Brad Martin became the interim President in April of 2013. The Laurie donation was announced in December of 2013.
Whatever you say. They were friends for the 17 years RC was AD as well.
Brad Martin wasn't the interim President for those 17 years.
On this we agree. Between Lame Rawlins and Shirley Temple, I am sure there was reluctance to engage on his part.
But RC was the target of Bill Laurie's ire I assure you.
Let's just be thankful Dr. Rudd is here and that we will get a great AD to replace Bowen.
Amen.
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