Why do we need another bowl game?

(03-30-2019 10:01 AM)HoustonCougarNation Wrote:  Why do we need another bowl game?

Because the next quality bowl we sign will be our first.

Sorry, but I hope this new bowl is better than the Independence Bowl. That was even lower on the pecking order for the SEC than Birmingham.

Shouldn't it be a p6 bowl?

(03-30-2019 12:14 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Sorry, but I hope this new bowl is better than the Independence Bowl. That was even lower on the pecking order for the SEC than Birmingham.

Yup...I figure is either the Indy Bowl or First Responders Bowl. Since the SEC is adding Vegas, the Indy Bowl, at the bottom of the barrel, is the most likely to lose thier SEC tie. That’s why I think we have a good shot of picking that one up vs the ACC. I think we have a really good shot of landing the First Responders Bowl as well as they have publicly mentioned the need to upgrade the existing ties all but admitting it will likely fail otherwise.

(03-29-2019 10:40 AM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(03-29-2019 10:34 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-29-2019 09:45 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  Also, random...

I hard him mention something about us going to a 9-game conference schedule in 10+ years. I don't think I'd heard that before. Anyone have any more details? What year? Any thoughts on how the schedules will be put together?

That would be really surprising since we told Navy we would NOT do that. Not really sure what the motivation to go to 9 games would be.

Unless Navy gets a waiver to maintain scheduling flexibility? Navy Schedule (Army, Notre Dame, Air Force, FCS or Hawaii+FCS in that order)

Yeah, that’s not happening unless Navy is given a waiver, or the league expands to include Army and/or Air Force. And to be sure, none of things are impossible.

(03-30-2019 01:49 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 12:14 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Sorry, but I hope this new bowl is better than the Independence Bowl. That was even lower on the pecking order for the SEC than Birmingham.

Yup...I figure is either the Indy Bowl or First Responders Bowl. Since the SEC is adding Vegas, the Indy Bowl, at the bottom of the barrel, is the most likely to lose thier SEC tie. That’s why I think we have a good shot of picking that one up vs the ACC. I think we have a really good shot of landing the First Responders Bowl as well as they have publicly mentioned the need to upgrade the existing ties all but admitting it will likely fail otherwise.

Honestly, it's almost a 'no, thank you' on the Indy Bowl. The thing hardly ever gets filled by the primary partners and we'd be playing the Sun Belt, or CUSA every year. What's the point? To say we have a "P6" bowl?

If this is all Aresco can come up with, then he failed on securing bowls.

Don't get me wrong, I'd take the Indy Bowl...as long as it isn't the marquee bowl he is talking about bringing in.

We need some type of, at least partial, tie in to the Liberty or Sun Bowl. Do that, and he accomplished something.

(03-30-2019 02:08 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 01:49 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 12:14 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Sorry, but I hope this new bowl is better than the Independence Bowl. That was even lower on the pecking order for the SEC than Birmingham.

Yup...I figure is either the Indy Bowl or First Responders Bowl. Since the SEC is adding Vegas, the Indy Bowl, at the bottom of the barrel, is the most likely to lose thier SEC tie. That’s why I think we have a good shot of picking that one up vs the ACC. I think we have a really good shot of landing the First Responders Bowl as well as they have publicly mentioned the need to upgrade the existing ties all but admitting it will likely fail otherwise.

Honestly, it's almost a 'no, thank you' on the Indy Bowl. The thing hardly ever gets filled by the primary partners and we'd be playing the Sun Belt, or CUSA every year. What's the point? To say we have a "P6" bowl?

If this is all Aresco can come up with, then he failed on securing bowls.

Don't get me wrong, I'd take the Indy Bowl...as long as it isn't the marquee bowl he is talking about bringing in.

We need some type of, at least partial, tie in to the Liberty or Sun Bowl. Do that, and he accomplished something.

He's failed in that regard---as has every other current non-P5 commissioner and as has every non-power conference in the years before now. He's already admitted that we cant get the number 3, 4,5 P5 opponents in bowl games. Thats not a surprise at all to anyone watching how the bowls treat the quality G5 teams. As Ive said before--the only way to get such a game is via some innovative out of the box thinking. Ultimately---it will require a G5

1) creating a new bowl and financing a payout high enough to attract a high slection from a P5.

2) Working with a network to create a bowl with a payout high enough to attract a P5.

3) Partnering with an existing bowl to increase its payout high enough to attract a high selection from a P5.

or

4) Entering one team into a pool of P5 bowl teams that will be distributed to a coalition of mid-level bowls. This would likely require some sort of push from someone like ESPN or the AAC paying a fee to a bowl that selects us in order to be included into such a pool.

Essentially---its going to require something different and innovative that has never been tried and it will require a significant financial investment by the G5 conference. It wont be handed to us. The conference will have to invest real money in its post season fate if it wants to obtain a tie to that kind of bowl in the existing college football landscape. Its not going to happen without us paying money to make it happen. I see no willingness among the leagues schools to do anything like that. By the way, I dont think Aresco said anything about it being a marquee bowl. I think he just said it would be against a P5.

(03-30-2019 01:49 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 12:14 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Sorry, but I hope this new bowl is better than the Independence Bowl. That was even lower on the pecking order for the SEC than Birmingham.

Yup...I figure is either the Indy Bowl or First Responders Bowl. Since the SEC is adding Vegas, the Indy Bowl, at the bottom of the barrel, is the most likely to lose thier SEC tie. That’s why I think we have a good shot of picking that one up vs the ACC. I think we have a really good shot of landing the First Responders Bowl as well as they have publicly mentioned the need to upgrade the existing ties all but admitting it will likely fail otherwise.

The SEC is only half the tie in to Vegas and gave up half of Belk so it is a wash for them. The ACC has always filled the independence so if you could get that with them on the other side that isn’t a bad add. I mean the SEC isn’t filling it on a regular basis or barely at all. I would take the 6-8 ACC teams on the Military, Independence and St Pete. Add Birmingham vs SEC and it isn’t all bad. Just not seeing another in the cards unless the ACC added the holiday to drop the Sun.

(03-30-2019 04:27 PM)PT_american Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 01:49 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 12:14 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Sorry, but I hope this new bowl is better than the Independence Bowl. That was even lower on the pecking order for the SEC than Birmingham.

Yup...I figure is either the Indy Bowl or First Responders Bowl. Since the SEC is adding Vegas, the Indy Bowl, at the bottom of the barrel, is the most likely to lose thier SEC tie. That’s why I think we have a good shot of picking that one up vs the ACC. I think we have a really good shot of landing the First Responders Bowl as well as they have publicly mentioned the need to upgrade the existing ties all but admitting it will likely fail otherwise.

The SEC is only half the tie in to Vegas and gave up half of Belk so it is a wash for them. The ACC has always filled the independence so if you could get that with them on the other side that isn’t a bad add. I mean the SEC isn’t filling it on a regular basis or barely at all. I would take the 6-8 ACC teams on the Military, Independence and St Pete. Add Birmingham vs SEC and it isn’t all bad. Just not seeing another in the cards unless the ACC added the holiday to drop the Sun.

Yeah...basically I think the most we can really hope for is incremental improvment. Try to get every G5 vs P5 bowl game east of the Rockies. Fill in the rest of the bowls with fun G5 vs G5 locations---NOLA and Orlando would be two good spots. There are 5 G5 vs P5 bowls east of the Rockies (Birmingham, St Pete, Military, Ft Worth, and First Responders bowl in the old Cotton Bowl). The Indy could feasibly join that group. We can have 7 bowl ties per the NCAA Bowl Committee. So, our realistic best case is going to be all 5 G5 vs P5 bowls+Indy+NOLA or Cure. The Sun Bowl would be a homerun---but I dont see the ACC giving up a bowl that pays that well. With the Big12 renewing all its bowl ties---I think that means any hope of a Liberty tie is off the table.

(03-30-2019 04:34 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 04:27 PM)PT_american Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 01:49 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 12:14 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Sorry, but I hope this new bowl is better than the Independence Bowl. That was even lower on the pecking order for the SEC than Birmingham.

Yup...I figure is either the Indy Bowl or First Responders Bowl. Since the SEC is adding Vegas, the Indy Bowl, at the bottom of the barrel, is the most likely to lose thier SEC tie. That’s why I think we have a good shot of picking that one up vs the ACC. I think we have a really good shot of landing the First Responders Bowl as well as they have publicly mentioned the need to upgrade the existing ties all but admitting it will likely fail otherwise.

The SEC is only half the tie in to Vegas and gave up half of Belk so it is a wash for them. The ACC has always filled the independence so if you could get that with them on the other side that isn’t a bad add. I mean the SEC isn’t filling it on a regular basis or barely at all. I would take the 6-8 ACC teams on the Military, Independence and St Pete. Add Birmingham vs SEC and it isn’t all bad. Just not seeing another in the cards unless the ACC added the holiday to drop the Sun.

Yeah...basically I think the most we can really hope for is incremental improvment. Try to get every G5 vs P5 bowl game east of the Rockies. Fill in the rest of the bowls with fun G5 vs G5 locations---NOLA and Orlando would be two good spots. There are 5 G5 vs P5 bowls east of the Rockies (Birmingham, St Pete, Military, Ft Worth, and First Responders bowl in the old Cotton Bowl). The Indy could feasibly join that group. We can have 7 bowl ties per the NCAA Bowl Committee. So, our realistic best case is going to be all 5 G5 vs P5 bowls+Indy+NOLA or Cure. The Sun Bowl would be a homerun---but I dont see the ACC giving up a bowl that pays that well. With the Big12 renewing all its bowl ties---I think that means any hope of a Liberty tie is off the table.

Agreed.

Military vs ACC
Independence vs ACC
First Responders vs Big10
BHam vs SEC
St Pete vs ACC

Cure and New Orleans maybe to round it out.

That’s is the best I think that could happen with being the #1 backup to the Liberty.

(03-30-2019 03:29 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 02:08 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 01:49 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 12:14 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Sorry, but I hope this new bowl is better than the Independence Bowl. That was even lower on the pecking order for the SEC than Birmingham.

Yup...I figure is either the Indy Bowl or First Responders Bowl. Since the SEC is adding Vegas, the Indy Bowl, at the bottom of the barrel, is the most likely to lose thier SEC tie. That’s why I think we have a good shot of picking that one up vs the ACC. I think we have a really good shot of landing the First Responders Bowl as well as they have publicly mentioned the need to upgrade the existing ties all but admitting it will likely fail otherwise.

Honestly, it's almost a 'no, thank you' on the Indy Bowl. The thing hardly ever gets filled by the primary partners and we'd be playing the Sun Belt, or CUSA every year. What's the point? To say we have a "P6" bowl?

If this is all Aresco can come up with, then he failed on securing bowls.

Don't get me wrong, I'd take the Indy Bowl...as long as it isn't the marquee bowl he is talking about bringing in.

We need some type of, at least partial, tie in to the Liberty or Sun Bowl. Do that, and he accomplished something.

He's failed in that regard---as has every other current non-P5 commissioner and as has every non-power conference in the years before now. He's already admitted that we cant get the number 3, 4,5 P5 opponents in bowl games. Thats not a surprise at all to anyone watching how the bowls treat the quality G5 teams. As Ive said before--the only way to get such a game is via some innovative out of the box thinking. Ultimately---it will require a G5

1) creating a new bowl and financing a payout high enough to attract a high slection from a P5.

2) Working with a network to create a bowl with a payout high enough to attract a P5.

3) Partnering with an existing bowl to increase its payout high enough to attract a high selection from a P5.

or

4) Entering one team into a pool of P5 bowl teams that will be distributed to a coalition of mid-level bowls. This would likely require some sort of push from someone like ESPN or the AAC paying a fee to a bowl that selects us in order to be included into such a pool.

Essentially---its going to require something different and innovative that has never been tried and it will require a significant financial investment by the G5 conference. It wont be handed to us. The conference will have to invest real money in its post season fate if it wants to obtain a tie to that kind of bowl in the existing college football landscape. Its not going to happen without us paying money to make it happen. I see no willingness among the leagues schools to do anything like that. By the way, I dont think Aresco said anything about it being a marquee bowl. I think he just said it would be against a P5.

Didn't we already try this (1 and/or 2) with the Miami Beach Bowl?

(03-30-2019 04:47 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 03:29 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 02:08 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 01:49 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 12:14 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Sorry, but I hope this new bowl is better than the Independence Bowl. That was even lower on the pecking order for the SEC than Birmingham.

Yup...I figure is either the Indy Bowl or First Responders Bowl. Since the SEC is adding Vegas, the Indy Bowl, at the bottom of the barrel, is the most likely to lose thier SEC tie. That’s why I think we have a good shot of picking that one up vs the ACC. I think we have a really good shot of landing the First Responders Bowl as well as they have publicly mentioned the need to upgrade the existing ties all but admitting it will likely fail otherwise.

Honestly, it's almost a 'no, thank you' on the Indy Bowl. The thing hardly ever gets filled by the primary partners and we'd be playing the Sun Belt, or CUSA every year. What's the point? To say we have a "P6" bowl?

If this is all Aresco can come up with, then he failed on securing bowls.

Don't get me wrong, I'd take the Indy Bowl...as long as it isn't the marquee bowl he is talking about bringing in.

We need some type of, at least partial, tie in to the Liberty or Sun Bowl. Do that, and he accomplished something.

He's failed in that regard---as has every other current non-P5 commissioner and as has every non-power conference in the years before now. He's already admitted that we cant get the number 3, 4,5 P5 opponents in bowl games. Thats not a surprise at all to anyone watching how the bowls treat the quality G5 teams. As Ive said before--the only way to get such a game is via some innovative out of the box thinking. Ultimately---it will require a G5

1) creating a new bowl and financing a payout high enough to attract a high slection from a P5.

2) Working with a network to create a bowl with a payout high enough to attract a P5.

3) Partnering with an existing bowl to increase its payout high enough to attract a high selection from a P5.

or

4) Entering one team into a pool of P5 bowl teams that will be distributed to a coalition of mid-level bowls. This would likely require some sort of push from someone like ESPN or the AAC paying a fee to a bowl that selects us in order to be included into such a pool.

Essentially---its going to require something different and innovative that has never been tried and it will require a significant financial investment by the G5 conference. It wont be handed to us. The conference will have to invest real money in its post season fate if it wants to obtain a tie to that kind of bowl in the existing college football landscape. Its not going to happen without us paying money to make it happen. I see no willingness among the leagues schools to do anything like that. By the way, I dont think Aresco said anything about it being a marquee bowl. I think he just said it would be against a P5.

Didn't we already try this (1 and/or 2) with the Miami Beach Bowl?

We sort of did---but not really. We started our own bowl but the financial commitment to a payout large enough to attract a P5 opponent wasnt there. It wasnt even close. In fact, the Miami Beach Bowl was the lowest paying bowl in FBS most of its years. The payout probably needs to be in the 3 million per team range to get a good P5 selection. I like the idea of doing it this way for one reason. Once you build up a 6-10 million dollar fund to finance the bowl---there is no reason its ongoing operations wont be self supporting (may even throw off a profit). Thus, after the initial investment---if its run efficiently, you no longer have to keep pouring money into it. In fact, it may even become a small revenue source. Lest say in year one of the new deal---we set aside 10 million. That could work really well because no school every even sees a drop in payout. Im fairly sure the AAC is the only non-P5 that could really afford to do this.

(03-30-2019 10:01 AM)HoustonCougarNation Wrote:  Why do we need another bowl game?

Cannot tell if serious. ?

(03-30-2019 10:01 AM)HoustonCougarNation Wrote:  Why do we need another bowl game?

For UCONN, you silly goose!

Not sure if this was posted before but a good read on the Independence Bowl. I think this is the likely P5 bowl Aresco is alluding too. I honestly think it would be a good get if you can keep the ACC and potentially have them move up their pick a spot or two. Seems like the region is trying to make it into an event. The bowl has history and would be an upgrade over Hawaii, Cure, Bahamas and some of the current bowls in the lineup. I think while the Independence loves the SEC it is highly unlikely they actually get an SEC team even though they are contracted with them. So it would probably look a whole lot better to get a ranked team from the American in some cases.

Independence Bowl

(04-05-2019 07:56 AM)PT_american Wrote:  Not sure if this was posted before but a good read on the Independence Bowl. I think this is the likely P5 bowl Aresco is alluding too. I honestly think it would be a good get if you can keep the ACC and potentially have them move up their pick a spot or two. Seems like the region is trying to make it into an event. The bowl has history and would be an upgrade over Hawaii, Cure, Bahamas and some of the current bowls in the lineup. I think while the Independence loves the SEC it is highly unlikely they actually get an SEC team even though they are contracted with them. So it would probably look a whole lot better to get a ranked team from the American in some cases.

Independence Bowl

Yup. Key pickups to look for---

#1) Any or all of the P5 vs G5 games currently east of the Rockies. There are 5 of those. We already have Birmingham, Military, and St Pete. There are two G5 vs P5 Bowls we dont have---the First Responders and the Armed Forces Bowl---both in the Dallas-Ft Worth Metro.

#2) Indy Bowl---as the article pointed out, its currently a ACC vs SEC---but with the last pick in the SEC, the Indy Bowl rarely gets an SEC team. Be nice to get that as a 6 year AAC vs ACC bowl.

#3) St Pete only gets an ACC team every other year when St Pete is a post Christmas Bowl. When the ACC isnt there, its a AAC vs CUSA bowl. It would be nice if it goes post Christmas kick off and full 6 year ties as an ACC vs AAC bowl.

#4) Of the G5 vs G5 bowls, I'd like to see us pick up NOLA. Great location. Always a fun place to spend a few days.

We could potentially have 6 G5 vs P5 ties if everything went our way (7 in years where we grab the access bowl).

(04-05-2019 10:51 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-05-2019 07:56 AM)PT_american Wrote:  Not sure if this was posted before but a good read on the Independence Bowl. I think this is the likely P5 bowl Aresco is alluding too. I honestly think it would be a good get if you can keep the ACC and potentially have them move up their pick a spot or two. Seems like the region is trying to make it into an event. The bowl has history and would be an upgrade over Hawaii, Cure, Bahamas and some of the current bowls in the lineup. I think while the Independence loves the SEC it is highly unlikely they actually get an SEC team even though they are contracted with them. So it would probably look a whole lot better to get a ranked team from the American in some cases.

Independence Bowl

Yup. Key pickups to look for---

#1) Any or all of the P5 vs G5 games currently east of the Rockies. There are 5 of those. We already have Birmingham, Military, and St Pete. There are two G5 vs P5 Bowls we dont have---the First Responders and the Armed Forces Bowl---both in the Dallas-Ft Worth Metro.

#2) Indy Bowl---as the article pointed out, its currently a ACC vs SEC---but with the last pick in the SEC, the Indy Bowl rarely gets an SEC team. Be nice to get that as a 6 year AAC vs ACC bowl.

#3) St Pete only gets an ACC team every other year when St Pete is a post Christmas Bowl. When the ACC isnt there, its a AAC vs CUSA bowl. It would be nice if it goes post Christmas kick off and full 6 year ties as an ACC vs AAC bowl.

#4) Of the G5 vs G5 bowls, I'd like to see us pick up NOLA. Great location. Always a fun place to spend a few days.

We could potentially have 6 G5 vs P5 ties if everything went our way (7 in years where we grab the access bowl).

I don't think it is likely or even makes sense to grab the First Responders and the Armed Forces Bowl. Would seem redundant to have two bowls in the same location to me. The Big 12 never fills the Armed Forces anyways so i would try to nab the Big 10 for the First Responders. they at least filled it most of the time they were the partner.

(04-05-2019 03:40 PM)PT_american Wrote:  

(04-05-2019 10:51 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-05-2019 07:56 AM)PT_american Wrote:  Not sure if this was posted before but a good read on the Independence Bowl. I think this is the likely P5 bowl Aresco is alluding too. I honestly think it would be a good get if you can keep the ACC and potentially have them move up their pick a spot or two. Seems like the region is trying to make it into an event. The bowl has history and would be an upgrade over Hawaii, Cure, Bahamas and some of the current bowls in the lineup. I think while the Independence loves the SEC it is highly unlikely they actually get an SEC team even though they are contracted with them. So it would probably look a whole lot better to get a ranked team from the American in some cases.

Independence Bowl

Yup. Key pickups to look for---

#1) Any or all of the P5 vs G5 games currently east of the Rockies. There are 5 of those. We already have Birmingham, Military, and St Pete. There are two G5 vs P5 Bowls we dont have---the First Responders and the Armed Forces Bowl---both in the Dallas-Ft Worth Metro.

#2) Indy Bowl---as the article pointed out, its currently a ACC vs SEC---but with the last pick in the SEC, the Indy Bowl rarely gets an SEC team. Be nice to get that as a 6 year AAC vs ACC bowl.

#3) St Pete only gets an ACC team every other year when St Pete is a post Christmas Bowl. When the ACC isnt there, its a AAC vs CUSA bowl. It would be nice if it goes post Christmas kick off and full 6 year ties as an ACC vs AAC bowl.

#4) Of the G5 vs G5 bowls, I'd like to see us pick up NOLA. Great location. Always a fun place to spend a few days.

We could potentially have 6 G5 vs P5 ties if everything went our way (7 in years where we grab the access bowl).

I don't think it is likely or even makes sense to grab the First Responders and the Armed Forces Bowl. Would seem redundant to have two bowls in the same location to me. The Big 12 never fills the Armed Forces anyways so i would try to nab the Big 10 for the First Responders. they at least filled it most of the time they were the partner.

I get that the Big12 rarely fills it----but Id rather have go ahead and grab the Armed Forces even if its rarely filled by the Big12. I mean---what would you end up replacing it with? Its either the Armed Forces or something like Frisco, Boca, Molbile, ect that has ZERO chance of a P5 opponent. So, grab the 5 or 6 that can potentially be P5 matchups and fill in the rest with whatever G5 vs G5 is in the best location. Besides, our HQ will soon be in that Dallas/Ft Worth area so that would allow us to work with those bowls very effectively.

(04-05-2019 04:15 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-05-2019 03:40 PM)PT_american Wrote:  

(04-05-2019 10:51 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-05-2019 07:56 AM)PT_american Wrote:  Not sure if this was posted before but a good read on the Independence Bowl. I think this is the likely P5 bowl Aresco is alluding too. I honestly think it would be a good get if you can keep the ACC and potentially have them move up their pick a spot or two. Seems like the region is trying to make it into an event. The bowl has history and would be an upgrade over Hawaii, Cure, Bahamas and some of the current bowls in the lineup. I think while the Independence loves the SEC it is highly unlikely they actually get an SEC team even though they are contracted with them. So it would probably look a whole lot better to get a ranked team from the American in some cases.

Independence Bowl

Yup. Key pickups to look for---

#1) Any or all of the P5 vs G5 games currently east of the Rockies. There are 5 of those. We already have Birmingham, Military, and St Pete. There are two G5 vs P5 Bowls we dont have---the First Responders and the Armed Forces Bowl---both in the Dallas-Ft Worth Metro.

#2) Indy Bowl---as the article pointed out, its currently a ACC vs SEC---but with the last pick in the SEC, the Indy Bowl rarely gets an SEC team. Be nice to get that as a 6 year AAC vs ACC bowl.

#3) St Pete only gets an ACC team every other year when St Pete is a post Christmas Bowl. When the ACC isnt there, its a AAC vs CUSA bowl. It would be nice if it goes post Christmas kick off and full 6 year ties as an ACC vs AAC bowl.

#4) Of the G5 vs G5 bowls, I'd like to see us pick up NOLA. Great location. Always a fun place to spend a few days.

We could potentially have 6 G5 vs P5 ties if everything went our way (7 in years where we grab the access bowl).

I don't think it is likely or even makes sense to grab the First Responders and the Armed Forces Bowl. Would seem redundant to have two bowls in the same location to me. The Big 12 never fills the Armed Forces anyways so i would try to nab the Big 10 for the First Responders. they at least filled it most of the time they were the partner.

I get that the Big12 rarely fills it----but Id rather have go ahead and grab the Armed Forces even if its rarely filled by the Big12. I mean---what would you end up replacing it with? Its either the Armed Forces or something like Frisco, Boca, Molbile, ect that has ZERO chance of a P5 opponent. So, grab the 5 or 6 that can potentially be P5 matchups and fill in the rest with whatever G5 vs G5 is in the best location. Besides, our HQ will soon be in that Dallas/Ft Worth area so that would allow us to work with those bowls very effectively.

I get the need to maximize the P5 opponents but I think having two Dallas bowls doesn’t make sense. The Big12 has never filled that bowl based on the last contract. Given how the league is spread out it makes more sense to have bowls spread out so all fans have a chance to make the games. Just my opinion though. I think st Pete, cure and New Orleans should be some of the lower options. Close to schools and destinations as well.