Interesting article. Sounds like institutions could provide unlimited educational funds to student athletes.
**I don’t have a Twitter acct but maybe someone could reach out to Dr Rudd. Could he use this ruling to increase the graduation rate of former athletes that never graduated? Could he also use this tool to encourage former athletes to complete a masters or Ph D? The net result would be a) bump in historical graduation rates b) influx of students pursuing higher education. Could either of these help us in our academic pursuits as an institution of higher learning or Carnegie Mellon status??

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/story...st-lawsuit

Great news for athletes. Now if Post Secondary Education could only become a right in the United States like it is in Germany and other more enlightened and less greed based economies and governments!

Schools can already pay for athletes to return to school to finish their degrees.

Unfortunately, most of those returning have no impact on graduation rates. Those rates are measured in terms of first time freshmen who enroll initially in a summer or fall term and graduate within 6 years. Very few athletes who leave school return in time to graduate within the 6 year time frame needed to impact a graduation rate.

basically another step into turning the P5 into a professional sports league. Congress needs to step in and try and reign in out of control college athletics. Return the focus of the schools back to education again and not farm systems for professional sports.

(03-10-2019 10:37 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  basically another step into turning the P5 into a professional sports league. Congress needs to step in and try and reign in out of control college athletics. Return the focus of the schools back to education again and not farm systems for professional sports.

So, you are against the schools educating the players past their playing days? Not surprising, but sad.

(03-11-2019 09:22 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(03-10-2019 10:37 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  basically another step into turning the P5 into a professional sports league. Congress needs to step in and try and reign in out of control college athletics. Return the focus of the schools back to education again and not farm systems for professional sports.

So, you are against the schools educating the players past their playing days? Not surprising, but sad.

That's not what he said. Could be what he means but not what he said.

(03-11-2019 09:27 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(03-11-2019 09:22 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(03-10-2019 10:37 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  basically another step into turning the P5 into a professional sports league. Congress needs to step in and try and reign in out of control college athletics. Return the focus of the schools back to education again and not farm systems for professional sports.

So, you are against the schools educating the players past their playing days? Not surprising, but sad.

That's not what he said. Could be what he means but not what he said.

And I don’t disagree. College athletics are out of control. And it shouldn’t be a farm system for professional sports.

(03-11-2019 11:46 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(03-11-2019 09:27 AM)gusrob Wrote:  

(03-11-2019 09:22 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(03-10-2019 10:37 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  basically another step into turning the P5 into a professional sports league. Congress needs to step in and try and reign in out of control college athletics. Return the focus of the schools back to education again and not farm systems for professional sports.

So, you are against the schools educating the players past their playing days? Not surprising, but sad.

That's not what he said. Could be what he means but not what he said.

And I don’t disagree. College athletics are out of control. And it shouldn’t be a farm system for professional sports.

Who wants to be the first school with post season aspirations to turn down a one and done? Anybody?

(03-10-2019 10:37 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  basically another step into turning the P5 into a professional sports league. Congress needs to step in and try and reign in out of control college athletics. Return the focus of the schools back to education again and not farm systems for professional sports.

This really doesn't make sense. They are there to study their chosen profession. They are receiving an education they need to start their career. If an engineering student is offered the right job for the right money after his 2nd year in college would you say the same thing? Wouldn't that make the university a farm system for engineers?

(03-11-2019 12:42 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(03-10-2019 10:37 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  basically another step into turning the P5 into a professional sports league. Congress needs to step in and try and reign in out of control college athletics. Return the focus of the schools back to education again and not farm systems for professional sports.

This really doesn't make sense. They are there to study their chosen profession. They are receiving an education they need to start their career. If an engineering student is offered the right job for the right money after his 2nd year in college would you say the same thing? Wouldn't that make the university a farm system for engineers?

Asinine attempt to compare apples and oranges. As if an engineering firm will hire someone who has not completed all his studies, especially since they would be criminally liable if that person screws up and something he or she design fails.

University system was created to educate the students to make them life long productive members of society. Athletics started out as a way to entertain the students and then a way of helping to provide those who were skilled but could not otherwise get into school an opportunity to get the training to be a productive member of society.

College and pro sports were bitter rivals in the early year for the athlete.

Universities were never designed to be farm teams for pro sports.

Remind me how may engineering students work on average 6 years as engineers and then 60% are bankrupted within 12 years of them leaving school. 60% of NBA players are bankrupted within 6 years of their final game.

Billions of tax dollars go into education every year in order to provide a system for EVERYONE to become a productive long term member of society. Our tax dollars should not go toward creating a minor league system for pro sports.

AND the way the laws are written you CANNOT pay the members of the revenue generating sports and not pay members of every other sport. Since over 90% of athletic programs lose money each year as it is. If you start paying EVERY athlete on campus then 100% of athletic programs will lose money.

(03-11-2019 02:52 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-11-2019 12:42 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(03-10-2019 10:37 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  basically another step into turning the P5 into a professional sports league. Congress needs to step in and try and reign in out of control college athletics. Return the focus of the schools back to education again and not farm systems for professional sports.

This really doesn't make sense. They are there to study their chosen profession. They are receiving an education they need to start their career. If an engineering student is offered the right job for the right money after his 2nd year in college would you say the same thing? Wouldn't that make the university a farm system for engineers?

Asinine attempt to compare apples and oranges. As if an engineering firm will hire someone who has not completed all his studies, especially since they would be criminally liable if that person screws up and something he or she design fails.

University system was created to educate the students to make them life long productive members of society. Athletics started out as a way to entertain the students and then a way of helping to provide those who were skilled but could not otherwise get into school an opportunity to get the training to be a productive member of society.

College and pro sports were bitter rivals in the early year for the athlete.

Universities were never designed to be farm teams for pro sports.

Remind me how may engineering students work on average 6 years as engineers and then 60% are bankrupted within 12 years of them leaving school. 60% of NBA players are bankrupted within 6 years of their final game.

Billions of tax dollars go into education every year in order to provide a system for EVERYONE to become a productive long term member of society. Our tax dollars should not go toward creating a minor league system for pro sports.

AND the way the laws are written you CANNOT pay the members of the revenue generating sports and not pay members of every other sport. Since over 90% of athletic programs lose money each year as it is. If you start paying EVERY athlete on campus then 100% of athletic programs will lose money.

Tech companies regularly hire 1+done design and system guys.

Didn't Carnagie Mellon invent the Triple Lindy?