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(03-04-2019 08:37 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 08:11 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  lose @UCF
UH game at home...could go either way

a win or two in the AAC tourney but not win the AAC tourney

lose our NCAA first round game

You're not allowed to post about our NCAA prospects. You had UC headed to the NIT, but only if we got lucky.

I think many UC fans had the same view at one point or another (preseason, after the OSU loss, etc.). I get a pass.

didn't tre scott miss an alley oop that woulda sent a ucf road game into ot a coupla years ago? they won't let me find that. anyway, tre gets revenge and the houston game goes the way of the wichita game last year. temple wins the tourney much to the chagrin of second place memphis (who declines an nit invite) and we capitalize on a first round upset to walk into the sweet sixteen to be defeated by an upstart indiana team

I think the biggest reason right now I'm excited is Brooks.....he looked like a different player the last game. I know it was one game so need to temper excitement a bit and see if he can keep it up, but in that one game he looked like the guy we all thought he should look like. How many dunks did he have that game? He always had the D but if he can keep playing offense like that, all of a sudden we have an inside threat and with Cumberland's ability to drive and dish or drive and score and the JJ/Broome/Williams either shoot long range or taking it to the rim, team has a completely different look/feel.


In short, Brooks has been removed from the Official Stiff List.

If we don't get out of the 1st weekend, Cronin will claim a successful season and lobby for a salary increase.

I'll go against the conventional wisdom:

#25 UCF - Will they be playing UC in front of even 5,000 fans in their 10,000 seat arena? At best, probably. UC has simply dominated the Knights for years and goes into Orlando in the afterglow of UCF's biggest win and demonstrates what it takes to win consistently, ending the Knights' one week stay in the top 25.

Houston - alert the CCU @ University Hospital as this one will go to the final possession with UC winning.

AAC Tournament - UC eliminated in the final game, likely by Houston.

NCAA - UC toughs out a win in game one and is overpowered in game two by a more elite squad that can really score at will.

A great season for certain. But another predictable outcome in the NCAA. It's the reason the national audience is surprised by that graphic ESPN uses showing UC's consecutive tournament appearances alongside elite programs. Many college basketball fans don't get serious about their brackets until the Sweet Sixteen. And their ignorance about what UC has done is understandable since they haven't seen the Bearcats there in seven of the last eight years.

(03-05-2019 08:17 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  I'll go against the conventional wisdom:

#25 UCF - Will they be playing UC in front of even 5,000 fans in their 10,000 seat arena? At best, probably. UC has simply dominated the Knights for years and goes into Orlando in the afterglow of UCF's biggest win and demonstrates what it takes to win consistently, ending the Knights' one week stay in the top 25.

Houston - alert the CCU @ University Hospital as this one will go to the final possession with UC winning.

AAC Tournament - UC eliminated in the final game, likely by Houston.

NCAA - UC toughs out a win in game one and is overpowered in game two by a more elite squad that can really score at will.

A great season for certain. But another predictable outcome in the NCAA. It's the reason the national audience is surprised by that graphic ESPN uses showing UC's consecutive tournament appearances alongside elite programs. Many college basketball fans don't get serious about their brackets until the Sweet Sixteen. And their ignorance about what UC has done is understandable since they haven't seen the Bearcats there in seven of the last eight years.

this

and I also thinks this affect recruiting.....if UC had been in the S16 in 7 of the last 8 years instead of NOT being in the S16 7 of the last 8 years, I think it affects a lot of things:
-start season ranked (polls matter for recruiting, etc.)
-recruiting: I think if Mick's teams had consistent ncaa runs, our overall recruiting is better. No proof of this, just a guess.

Winning the conference and/or winning 30 games is 'nice'....but I'd rather be 22-10 with an S16 or E8 run than 31-4 and a second round flame out. I'd take 'a' every time. And so would most folks.

(03-05-2019 12:10 AM)Ragpicker Wrote:  

(03-04-2019 07:10 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  End the NCAA tournament with a loss.

I see you went out on a limb with that prediction.

Sometimes we have to be bold.

I’ll just go with kenpom and predict 1-1

We win at home and lose on the road.


That simple.

This will be the most ruckus environment Houston has played in all season against a good team.

They avoided playing @memphis and @WSU this season.

Temple was dead
UConn was dead
Smu was dead


One could easily say that the environment will be unlike anything this Houston team has seen all year.

Could we lose? Absolutely. But I do like our chances in a close game at home on senior day in a sold out to the brim arena


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(03-04-2019 11:04 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  We lose out and don't even make the tournament. Xavier takes our spot.

I know you're joking about this but I will say: if X makes the tournament they will go on a run to at least the Sweet 16. This fits their profile for making a run so much, barely get in, make a run going through a lot of higher seeds.

On the real question at hand:
Lose @ UCF, win against Houston.
Get to the finals of the AAC Tourney and lose to Houston.
Make the Sweet 16. I'm being optimistic about our ability to fight and finish close games, has to count for something. Also, Jarron always seems to show up big in the tournament.

Sadly, I could also see the Cats lose both games this week, only winning one game in the AAC Tournament and losing the first game of the NCAA Tournament. I don't think this will be the case and while the season would still be a success it would leave a sour taste in all our mouths.

We win out the regular season.

We win the AAC tournament.

We win the NCAA tournament by beating Ohio State, Louisville, Michigan, North Carolina, Kentucky and Duke in that order.

... Until I'm proven wrong, my scenario's just as believable as any of yours.

I think we lose @UCF, lose to Houston in the AAC finals, and lose in the NCAA 2nd round again.

I'd only feel somewhat confident against a higher seed in the NCAA tournament if we were going up against a Big Ten team. Michigan State has injuries so they're short on depth, Michigan has a short bench and has been a bit erratic over the past couple weeks, and Purdue isn't that special outside of Edwards.

UC will be the underdog at UCF, at least by the gamblers. For the Houston game and in any AAC Tourney game, I would think that UC will be the favorite, if only slightly against Houston on a neutral floor. For the NCAAs, UC will be a favorite in the opening round game, and then likely an underdog in the second round and later, depending on upsets. Hard to tell what the most likely outcome is.

I'll say that UC loses at UCF, wins against Houston, wins the AAC Tournament, and finally gets back to the Sweet 16.

(03-05-2019 08:23 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(03-05-2019 08:17 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  I'll go against the conventional wisdom:

#25 UCF - Will they be playing UC in front of even 5,000 fans in their 10,000 seat arena? At best, probably. UC has simply dominated the Knights for years and goes into Orlando in the afterglow of UCF's biggest win and demonstrates what it takes to win consistently, ending the Knights' one week stay in the top 25.

Houston - alert the CCU @ University Hospital as this one will go to the final possession with UC winning.

AAC Tournament - UC eliminated in the final game, likely by Houston.

NCAA - UC toughs out a win in game one and is overpowered in game two by a more elite squad that can really score at will.

A great season for certain. But another predictable outcome in the NCAA. It's the reason the national audience is surprised by that graphic ESPN uses showing UC's consecutive tournament appearances alongside elite programs. Many college basketball fans don't get serious about their brackets until the Sweet Sixteen. And their ignorance about what UC has done is understandable since they haven't seen the Bearcats there in seven of the last eight years.

this

and I also thinks this affect recruiting.....if UC had been in the S16 in 7 of the last 8 years instead of NOT being in the S16 7 of the last 8 years, I think it affects a lot of things:
-start season ranked (polls matter for recruiting, etc.)
-recruiting: I think if Mick's teams had consistent ncaa runs, our overall recruiting is better. No proof of this, just a guess.

Winning the conference and/or winning 30 games is 'nice'....but I'd rather be 22-10 with an S16 or E8 run than 31-4 and a second round flame out. I'd take 'a' every time. And so would most folks.

...clearly?

(03-05-2019 07:55 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I think the biggest reason right now I'm excited is Brooks.....he looked like a different player the last game. I know it was one game so need to temper excitement a bit and see if he can keep it up, but in that one game he looked like the guy we all thought he should look like. How many dunks did he have that game? He always had the D but if he can keep playing offense like that, all of a sudden we have an inside threat and with Cumberland's ability to drive and dish or drive and score and the JJ/Broome/Williams either shoot long range or taking it to the rim, team has a completely different look/feel.


In short, Brooks has been removed from the Official Stiff List.

Brooks is the #1 player I am going to watch against UCF. He had a fantastic effort against Tacko Fall last time, but since then Tacko has suddenly become even more of an inside force than he has been previously. I will be intrigued to see if Brooks holds him in check again or not. If so, I see Brooks having the potential to go on a great end of season run.

(03-05-2019 09:56 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  

(03-05-2019 07:55 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I think the biggest reason right now I'm excited is Brooks.....he looked like a different player the last game. I know it was one game so need to temper excitement a bit and see if he can keep it up, but in that one game he looked like the guy we all thought he should look like. How many dunks did he have that game? He always had the D but if he can keep playing offense like that, all of a sudden we have an inside threat and with Cumberland's ability to drive and dish or drive and score and the JJ/Broome/Williams either shoot long range or taking it to the rim, team has a completely different look/feel.


In short, Brooks has been removed from the Official Stiff List.

Brooks is the #1 player I am going to watch against UCF. He had a fantastic effort against Tacko Fall last time, but since then Tacko has suddenly become even more of an inside force than he has been previously. I will be intrigued to see if Brooks holds him in check again or not. If so, I see Brooks having the potential to go on a great end of season run.

Tacko will Fall! Brooks plays confident against Tacko because he's much quicker and he's in Tacko's head. Observe the spin post move, thunder dunk...

Brooksy can post him up far enough away from the bucket so that Tacko can't just dunk it. Plus, we swarm the dude as soon as he gets the ball. He has to pass it back out most often. Tacko will Fall!

(03-05-2019 09:48 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(03-05-2019 08:23 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(03-05-2019 08:17 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  I'll go against the conventional wisdom:

#25 UCF - Will they be playing UC in front of even 5,000 fans in their 10,000 seat arena? At best, probably. UC has simply dominated the Knights for years and goes into Orlando in the afterglow of UCF's biggest win and demonstrates what it takes to win consistently, ending the Knights' one week stay in the top 25.

Houston - alert the CCU @ University Hospital as this one will go to the final possession with UC winning.

AAC Tournament - UC eliminated in the final game, likely by Houston.

NCAA - UC toughs out a win in game one and is overpowered in game two by a more elite squad that can really score at will.

A great season for certain. But another predictable outcome in the NCAA. It's the reason the national audience is surprised by that graphic ESPN uses showing UC's consecutive tournament appearances alongside elite programs. Many college basketball fans don't get serious about their brackets until the Sweet Sixteen. And their ignorance about what UC has done is understandable since they haven't seen the Bearcats there in seven of the last eight years.

this

and I also thinks this affect recruiting.....if UC had been in the S16 in 7 of the last 8 years instead of NOT being in the S16 7 of the last 8 years, I think it affects a lot of things:
-start season ranked (polls matter for recruiting, etc.)
-recruiting: I think if Mick's teams had consistent ncaa runs, our overall recruiting is better. No proof of this, just a guess.

Winning the conference and/or winning 30 games is 'nice'....but I'd rather be 22-10 with an S16 or E8 run than 31-4 and a second round flame out. I'd take 'a' every time. And so would most folks.

...clearly?

huh?

I wasnt' saying its better to make the S16 vs not make it. That is pretty obvious. The point of my post was to say I've seen many folk up in here spend a lot of time bragging about 30 win seasons and AAC titles and not realize or at least act like they realize that the only thing that really matters in hoops is your March Madness resume. Micks sucks beyond making it. That is a major contributor to him not getting top 100 kids on any sort of regular basis.

Tired Bruh? You better get your oxygen tank ready cuz that 7' 6" frame is going to need it playing us Bruh! You watch, Mick will throw Brooksy, Tre, Nsoseme & Mamoudou at him hard to wear him down. Operation Tacko will Fall!

I'll go:

lose at UCF
Win Houston
lose in finals of AAC
lose in round of 32 in NCAA, with outside shot of making the Sweet 16 depending on matchups.

(03-05-2019 10:23 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  point was, I've seen many folk up in here spend a lot of time bragging about 30 win seasons and AAC titles and not realize or at least act like they realize that the only thing that really matters in hoops is your March Madness resume. Micks sucks beyond making it. That is a major contributor to him not getting top 100 kids on any sort of regular basis.

Eh. This is an insane position that I don't agree with at all. Winning your conference is awesome. Winning the conference tournament is awesome. These are huge accomplishments. March is fun. A deep run in March is awesome, but it doesn't make the rest of the season irrelevant.