Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
Wednesday 2/27 American Basketball Game
Author Message
pesik Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 26,442
Joined: Jan 2014
Reputation: 817
I Root For: Houston
Location:
Post: #321
RE: Wednesday 2/27 American Basketball Game
(02-28-2019 02:53 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  POY is Martin's to lose, imo.

to the winner goes the spoils, its how its always been...rob gray led the league in scoring as a junior, with a high seed NIT team...he wasnt even 1st team all league

we havent had an all-league player from a non-tourney calibur team...

he cant be the favorite as he'd likely need to beat uc wile doing atleast 25..or losing and doing 40..both are unlikely
02-28-2019 03:08 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
WhoseHouse? Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 8,153
Joined: Dec 2015
Reputation: 489
I Root For: UH
Location:
Post: #322
RE: Wednesday 2/27 American Basketball Game
(02-28-2019 03:08 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(02-28-2019 02:53 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  POY is Martin's to lose, imo.

to the winner goes the spoils, its how its always been...rob gray led the league in scoring as a junior, with a high seed NIT team...he wasnt even 1st team all league

we havent had an all-league player from a non-tourney calibur team...

he cant be the favorite as he'd likely need to beat uc wile doing atleast 25..or losing and doing 40..both are unlikely

Fair point, but also kind of a shame because I always felt like Rob deserved it once. When do the conference awards come out officially because if Martin leads them on a tourney run then they have to give it to him, right?
02-28-2019 03:12 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
pesik Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 26,442
Joined: Jan 2014
Reputation: 817
I Root For: Houston
Location:
Post: #323
RE: Wednesday 2/27 American Basketball Game
(02-28-2019 02:45 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  And he recovered on his shot and contested the hell out of it.

How many times has jarron ever been made to “dance”.

Like literally the one time he does, you point it out and yet he finished that possession in near perfection.


I said, Corey Davis is a better on ball defender. That’s easy to say. But overall defense, including team defense, help defense, altering shots, blocking shots, stealing the ball, and forcing turnovers, those numbers all favor jarron.

Corey Davis can guard guys who are 6’3 and under, that’s not so versatile.

Now go pull up film of jarron defending the post and even defending the rim.

Corey is the better on ball defender.

Jarron is the more versatile defender.


The numbers reflect that.


Always. UC defense is all the sudden creeping up. It’s back in the top 20.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

cory has shut down numerous 6'6, 6'5 guards

Sam Merrill, David Collins, nate pierre louis

jarron didnt start scoring till corey got in foul trouble....

yes, when rose got in the pain the first game he, 6'8 rose was able to score layups.. he still went 30% from the field (and 1-7 from 3)

being tall alone isnt the issue, with corey specifically, you have to be agile enough to get to the post..with galen you have to tall and be a elite enough shooter that a hand directly in your face doesnt bother you..

there arent super agile 6'8 guards just walking around the corner..

jarron isnt in the same hemi-sphere of defender as corey..we both know this ..if he was we'd be seeing him defending opposing players best offesive players more than we do (instead of keith williams)..ive seen trevon scott guard more top scorer on the perimeter this season than jarron

and werent your numbers just saying UC was a top 30 offense in the nation, literally just 4 games ago..how UC was the best offense in the aac....something we both knew deep down, even when that debate was happening wasnt true
(This post was last modified: 02-28-2019 05:30 PM by pesik.)
02-28-2019 03:29 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
pesik Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 26,442
Joined: Jan 2014
Reputation: 817
I Root For: Houston
Location:
Post: #324
RE: Wednesday 2/27 American Basketball Game
(02-28-2019 03:12 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  
(02-28-2019 03:08 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(02-28-2019 02:53 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  POY is Martin's to lose, imo.

to the winner goes the spoils, its how its always been...rob gray led the league in scoring as a junior, with a high seed NIT team...he wasnt even 1st team all league

we havent had an all-league player from a non-tourney calibur team...

he cant be the favorite as he'd likely need to beat uc wile doing atleast 25..or losing and doing 40..both are unlikely

Fair point, but also kind of a shame because I always felt like Rob deserved it once. When do the conference awards come out officially because if Martin leads them on a tourney run then they have to give it to him, right?

pretourney... martin has 2 games to make a case ...corey and cumberland have 3.. interesting enough all 3 will be playing top defenses ..there wont be stat padders like that
02-28-2019 03:33 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
DownOnRohs Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 5,918
Joined: Feb 2015
Reputation: 68
I Root For: Cincinnati
Location:
Post: #325
RE: Wednesday 2/27 American Basketball Game
My point was for the better part of a decade we've been watching our team through the prism of defense first basketball, and have begrudgingly grown to evaluate every Bearcat on their defensive prowess before anything else. I agree Davis is a better defender, but I don't think he is in a completely different hemisphere as you suggest. I would argue Davis doesn't defend the paint as well as Cumberland. Again, apples and oranges since I think UC plays more positionless basketball than UH.
02-28-2019 03:52 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Bearcats#1 Offline
Ad nauseam King
*

Posts: 45,310
Joined: Jun 2005
Reputation: 1224
I Root For: Pony94
Location: In your head.
Post: #326
RE: Wednesday 2/27 American Basketball Game
(02-28-2019 03:52 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  My point was for the better part of a decade we've been watching our team through the prism of defense first basketball, and have begrudgingly grown to evaluate every Bearcat on their defensive prowess before anything else. I agree Davis is a better defender, but I don't think he is in a completely different hemisphere as you suggest. I would argue Davis doesn't defend the paint as well as Cumberland. Again, apples and oranges since I think UC plays more positionless basketball than UH.

ok, you can stop right there....Coach P has spoken on the subject and its final.
02-28-2019 05:26 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.