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(03-14-2019 07:44 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 06:04 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  I just made the switch from DirecTV to YouTube TV in January. Saving $100 a month with access to all of the channels I watched before. And no outages every time it storms or snows or even moderate wind. I had been a customer for 9 years and they only made a half hearted effort to try to keep me.

Same here. Longtime DTV customer and I dropped it in 2016, was with PS Vue for a couple years then switched over to Youtube TV last year. Never had one regret, loved both services although Youtube is better.

I follow the live TV streaming market a little bit because I find it interesting. Thought is DTV may be moving away from satellite TV since it requires a lot of manpower to have people go out and install satellite dishes. They created their own box for streaming which you can go out and purchase without anyone having to come and install. That may be why they're not fighting as hard to keep their satellite customers, they know the model is diminishing.

I've been paying about half for streaming over the last 3 years what I had been paying DTV and the quality is similar and the user experience is more intuitive than traditional satellite TV. I honestly wouldn't consider going back to traditional satellite/cable unless the price for streaming was higher than traditional services. I despise the business model of satellite/cable services.

It's weird, but I had a buddy who was a DTV customer for about 7 years, ran a trial for DTV Now (the streaming service) then called up DTV and said he was cancelling the Sat TV package and just going full streaming...well they moved their pricepoint down to $38/month on a full satellite package just to keep him there instead of moving to streaming. I'm wondering if they're having trouble managing bandwidth with how terrible AT&T's internet services are typically.

That YouTubeTV stuff only works if you have access to a good enough Internet service.

(03-14-2019 08:18 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  That YouTubeTV stuff only works if you have access to a good enough Internet service.

Absolutely. Streaming live TV if you don't have good internet service is pointless. I switched to Spectrum shortly after cord cutting and have not had an issue in years. CinBell in my neighborhood was awful.

(03-14-2019 08:39 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 08:18 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  That YouTubeTV stuff only works if you have access to a good enough Internet service.

Absolutely. Streaming live TV if you don't have good internet service is pointless. I switched to Spectrum shortly after cord cutting and have not had an issue in years. CinBell in my neighborhood was awful.

That's my problem. I don't ever want to deal with Spectrum again, but Cincinnati Bell in my neighborhood is still really slow as far as internet goes. Streaming usually is fine, but there are enough issues that I don't want to get rid of my cable yet. I'm thinking once I get through Game of Thrones this spring/summer I'll reevaluate.

(03-14-2019 08:59 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 08:39 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 08:18 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  That YouTubeTV stuff only works if you have access to a good enough Internet service.

Absolutely. Streaming live TV if you don't have good internet service is pointless. I switched to Spectrum shortly after cord cutting and have not had an issue in years. CinBell in my neighborhood was awful.

That's my problem. I don't ever want to deal with Spectrum again, but Cincinnati Bell in my neighborhood is still really slow as far as internet goes. Streaming usually is fine, but there are enough issues that I don't want to get rid of my cable yet. I'm thinking once I get through Game of Thrones this spring/summer I'll reevaluate.

Yep, the decision is basically made for you up in Northwest Ohio (all Buckeye), but they do a phenomenal job or pricing down. I'm at 200mbs with Unlimited Data and only pay $69.99 (plus the $45.99 for Hulu Live with unlimited screens)...still way less than the almost $225 I was spending for a similar package in years passed.

(03-14-2019 09:23 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Yep, the decision is basically made for you up in Northwest Ohio (all Buckeye), but they do a phenomenal job or pricing down. I'm at 200mbs with Unlimited Data and only pay $69.99 (plus the $45.99 for Hulu Live with unlimited screens)...still way less than the almost $225 I was spending for a similar package in years passed.

Wow thats an incredible deal. I've got 20 MBs for $45 in a grandfathered plan from TW which is more than enough to stream Youtube TV since I live alone and have no one else streaming simultaneously. I just bought a 4K TV and as more content becomes available I know I'm going to have to increase my speed; just don't want to mess with my current service since it's been issue free for the 3 years I've had it.

(03-14-2019 09:55 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 09:23 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Yep, the decision is basically made for you up in Northwest Ohio (all Buckeye), but they do a phenomenal job or pricing down. I'm at 200mbs with Unlimited Data and only pay $69.99 (plus the $45.99 for Hulu Live with unlimited screens)...still way less than the almost $225 I was spending for a similar package in years passed.

Wow thats an incredible deal. I've got 20 MBs for $45 in a grandfathered plan from TW which is more than enough to stream Youtube TV since I live alone and have no one else streaming simultaneously. I just bought a 4K TV and as more content becomes available I know I'm going to have to increase my speed; just don't want to mess with my current service since it's been issue free for the 3 years I've had it.

Yeah, Buckeye does pretty well to make their packages manageable since they are the only provider for much of the area. Add that to their significant local coverage in the form of BCSN and BCAN, and I can't really complain about them at all...one of the benefits of having a locally owned and operated provider.

My area just got a new Internet service. I was able to upgrade from 1 Mbps (closer to 0.1 Mbps during primetime) to 5 Mbps. Seems like heaven.

(03-14-2019 09:23 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 08:59 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 08:39 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 08:18 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  That YouTubeTV stuff only works if you have access to a good enough Internet service.

Absolutely. Streaming live TV if you don't have good internet service is pointless. I switched to Spectrum shortly after cord cutting and have not had an issue in years. CinBell in my neighborhood was awful.

That's my problem. I don't ever want to deal with Spectrum again, but Cincinnati Bell in my neighborhood is still really slow as far as internet goes. Streaming usually is fine, but there are enough issues that I don't want to get rid of my cable yet. I'm thinking once I get through Game of Thrones this spring/summer I'll reevaluate.

Yep, the decision is basically made for you up in Northwest Ohio (all Buckeye), but they do a phenomenal job or pricing down. I'm at 200mbs with Unlimited Data and only pay $69.99 (plus the $45.99 for Hulu Live with unlimited screens)...still way less than the almost $225 I was spending for a similar package in years passed.

I'm still in the dark on how all this stuff works. We still have Cincinnati Bell and pay right at $225 per mo. as well, which IMO is way too much. How does Hulu and YouTube work? I mean are the channels ala carte? Are you able to hand pick what channels you want and don't want and pay based on that? I've been waiting for years for cable companies to move in that direction so I don't have to pay a rate that includes a CNN, MSNBC, etc...

(03-14-2019 01:16 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 09:23 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 08:59 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 08:39 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 08:18 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  That YouTubeTV stuff only works if you have access to a good enough Internet service.

Absolutely. Streaming live TV if you don't have good internet service is pointless. I switched to Spectrum shortly after cord cutting and have not had an issue in years. CinBell in my neighborhood was awful.

That's my problem. I don't ever want to deal with Spectrum again, but Cincinnati Bell in my neighborhood is still really slow as far as internet goes. Streaming usually is fine, but there are enough issues that I don't want to get rid of my cable yet. I'm thinking once I get through Game of Thrones this spring/summer I'll reevaluate.

Yep, the decision is basically made for you up in Northwest Ohio (all Buckeye), but they do a phenomenal job or pricing down. I'm at 200mbs with Unlimited Data and only pay $69.99 (plus the $45.99 for Hulu Live with unlimited screens)...still way less than the almost $225 I was spending for a similar package in years passed.

I'm still in the dark on how all this stuff works. We still have Cincinnati Bell and pay right at $225 per mo. as well, which IMO is way too much. How does Hulu and YouTube work? I mean are the channels ala carte? Are you able to hand pick what channels you want and don't want and pay based on that? I've been waiting for years for cable companies to move in that direction so I don't have to pay a rate that includes a CNN, MSNBC, etc...

Most have different levels but I like YouTubeTV with only one option $40 for about 70 channels...great for sports all the ESPN channels, fox sports , fox sports ohio, CBS Sports,NBS sports, Big Ten, and SEC networks. Directv now and PS Vue you need to buy the more expensive options to get all those channels. Included are all the local Cincinnati channels and most of the cable channels I watch. You can check the page of each of the services and see which channels they include. If you don't have a smart TV you need a device like a Roku etc. So you would reduce your cost to $40 + tax + cost of your internet service.

(03-14-2019 01:56 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 01:16 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 09:23 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 08:59 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 08:39 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  Absolutely. Streaming live TV if you don't have good internet service is pointless. I switched to Spectrum shortly after cord cutting and have not had an issue in years. CinBell in my neighborhood was awful.

That's my problem. I don't ever want to deal with Spectrum again, but Cincinnati Bell in my neighborhood is still really slow as far as internet goes. Streaming usually is fine, but there are enough issues that I don't want to get rid of my cable yet. I'm thinking once I get through Game of Thrones this spring/summer I'll reevaluate.

Yep, the decision is basically made for you up in Northwest Ohio (all Buckeye), but they do a phenomenal job or pricing down. I'm at 200mbs with Unlimited Data and only pay $69.99 (plus the $45.99 for Hulu Live with unlimited screens)...still way less than the almost $225 I was spending for a similar package in years passed.

I'm still in the dark on how all this stuff works. We still have Cincinnati Bell and pay right at $225 per mo. as well, which IMO is way too much. How does Hulu and YouTube work? I mean are the channels ala carte? Are you able to hand pick what channels you want and don't want and pay based on that? I've been waiting for years for cable companies to move in that direction so I don't have to pay a rate that includes a CNN, MSNBC, etc...

Most have different levels but I like YouTubeTV with only one option $40 of about 70 channels...great for sports all the ESPN channels, fox sports , fox sports ohio, CBS Sports,NBS sports, Big Ten, and SEC networks. Directv now and PS Vue you need to buy the more expensive options to get all those channels. Included are all the local Cincinnati channels and most of the cable channels I watch. You can check the page of each of the services and see which channels they include. If you don't have a smart TV you need a device like a Roku etc. So you would reduce your cost to $40 + tax + cost of your internet service.

Awesome. Thanks for the info. I'm definitely going to be looking into the options available.

(03-14-2019 01:56 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 01:16 PM)Marcus Wrote:  I'm still in the dark on how all this stuff works. We still have Cincinnati Bell and pay right at $225 per mo. as well, which IMO is way too much. How does Hulu and YouTube work? I mean are the channels ala carte? Are you able to hand pick what channels you want and don't want and pay based on that? I've been waiting for years for cable companies to move in that direction so I don't have to pay a rate that includes a CNN, MSNBC, etc...

Most have different levels but I like YouTubeTV with only one option $40 of about 70 channels...great for sports all the ESPN channels, fox sports , fox sports ohio, CBS Sports,NBS sports, Big Ten, and SEC networks. Directv now and PS Vue you need to buy the more expensive options to get all those channels. Included are all the local Cincinnati channels and most of the cable channels I watch. You can check the page of each of the services and see which channels they include. If you don't have a smart TV you need a device like a Roku etc.

The reason I like YouTube TV is it has all the sports station UC would play on. It's a smaller bundle than a traditional bundle but I'd say I have 80-90% of the content I was actually watching on DTV

If you do stay with CinBell I had been told by people who have them when the promotional rate comes off they want you to come in to the store to get a new promotional rate. (which is a completely idiotic business model) I went in with my mother a few weeks ago and the guy there said exactly what I had been told. Hers was in the neighborhood of $200 and they cut her down to about $140.

(03-14-2019 02:03 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 01:56 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 01:16 PM)Marcus Wrote:  I'm still in the dark on how all this stuff works. We still have Cincinnati Bell and pay right at $225 per mo. as well, which IMO is way too much. How does Hulu and YouTube work? I mean are the channels ala carte? Are you able to hand pick what channels you want and don't want and pay based on that? I've been waiting for years for cable companies to move in that direction so I don't have to pay a rate that includes a CNN, MSNBC, etc...

Most have different levels but I like YouTubeTV with only one option $40 of about 70 channels...great for sports all the ESPN channels, fox sports , fox sports ohio, CBS Sports,NBS sports, Big Ten, and SEC networks. Directv now and PS Vue you need to buy the more expensive options to get all those channels. Included are all the local Cincinnati channels and most of the cable channels I watch. You can check the page of each of the services and see which channels they include. If you don't have a smart TV you need a device like a Roku etc.

The reason I like YouTube TV is it has all the sports station UC would play on. It's a smaller bundle than a traditional bundle but I'd say I have 80-90% of the content I was actually watching on DTV

If you do stay with CinBell I had been told by people who have them when the promotional rate comes off they want you to come in to the store to get a new promotional rate. (which is a completely idiotic business model) I went in with my mother a few weeks ago and the guy there said exactly what I had been told. Hers was in the neighborhood of $200 and they cut her down to about $140.

You can also call customer service and get it done over the phone. That's what I did the first couple times ... told them if there was nothing they could do my next call was to Spectrum or Direct TV.

After doing that for a couple years in a row, CinBell must have flagged my account and started notifying me that my "special rate" would be continued. ( I guess they thought I was good looking or something. OR maybe they just got tired of hearing me b1tch. :) )

(03-14-2019 02:02 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 01:56 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 01:16 PM)Marcus Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 09:23 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 08:59 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  That's my problem. I don't ever want to deal with Spectrum again, but Cincinnati Bell in my neighborhood is still really slow as far as internet goes. Streaming usually is fine, but there are enough issues that I don't want to get rid of my cable yet. I'm thinking once I get through Game of Thrones this spring/summer I'll reevaluate.

Yep, the decision is basically made for you up in Northwest Ohio (all Buckeye), but they do a phenomenal job or pricing down. I'm at 200mbs with Unlimited Data and only pay $69.99 (plus the $45.99 for Hulu Live with unlimited screens)...still way less than the almost $225 I was spending for a similar package in years passed.

I'm still in the dark on how all this stuff works. We still have Cincinnati Bell and pay right at $225 per mo. as well, which IMO is way too much. How does Hulu and YouTube work? I mean are the channels ala carte? Are you able to hand pick what channels you want and don't want and pay based on that? I've been waiting for years for cable companies to move in that direction so I don't have to pay a rate that includes a CNN, MSNBC, etc...

Most have different levels but I like YouTubeTV with only one option $40 of about 70 channels...great for sports all the ESPN channels, fox sports , fox sports ohio, CBS Sports,NBS sports, Big Ten, and SEC networks. Directv now and PS Vue you need to buy the more expensive options to get all those channels. Included are all the local Cincinnati channels and most of the cable channels I watch. You can check the page of each of the services and see which channels they include. If you don't have a smart TV you need a device like a Roku etc. So you would reduce your cost to $40 + tax + cost of your internet service.

Awesome. Thanks for the info. I'm definitely going to be looking into the options available.

Try this website...it will give you the best package based on the channels you want.

https://www.suppose.tv/tv

I like Hulu Live TV because it has a very similar channel package, integrated Cloud DVR, all local channels, an extremely dash to use mobile app that works anywhere, and the entire Hulu library, but you really cant go wrong with any of the choices available...just ensure you're at or above 20mbs to ensure minimal buffering and stream fidelity. The quality improved significantly when I boosted by download speed to 200mbs, but I know that's not always an option based on location. Remember that this does expend quite a bit of data too, so keep an eye out on your usage, and make adjustments to your plans accordingly.

Has anyone heard any news on when the big announcement is going to be made? [crickets]