(03-06-2019 08:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Two guys looking for trouble managed to find each other. I seriously doubt the “conservative activist” was simply passing out cookies and pamphlets and I seriously doubt the other dude was just strolling through campus and happened on a quite, peaceful protest. They both found what they were looking.

Only one guy threw punches. He is the one in the wrong and deserves to be punished. TRIGGERED.

(03-06-2019 08:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Two guys looking for trouble managed to find each other. I seriously doubt the “conservative activist” was simply passing out cookies and pamphlets and I seriously doubt the other dude was just strolling through campus and happened on a quite, peaceful protest. They both found what they were looking.

This is the equivalent of saying there were bad guys on both sides in Charlottesville. It was a silly thing to say then and now.

(03-06-2019 09:10 AM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 08:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Two guys looking for trouble managed to find each other. I seriously doubt the “conservative activist” was simply passing out cookies and pamphlets and I seriously doubt the other dude was just strolling through campus and happened on a quite, peaceful protest. They both found what they were looking.

This is the equivalent of saying there were bad guys on both sides in Charlottesville. It was a silly thing to say then and now.

No, its not. Words meant to provoke do exactly that... provoke. The Greenburg guy was wrong for losing his cool and hitting the alt-right activist... and he’ll pay the price...but let’s not pretend this was a boy scout who happebed to get roughed up.

I, obviously, didn’t see what prompted the melee, but I think its safe to say that two political activists on the same patch of grass at a school neither attends, didnt just happen up there.

(03-06-2019 09:44 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 09:10 AM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 08:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Two guys looking for trouble managed to find each other. I seriously doubt the “conservative activist” was simply passing out cookies and pamphlets and I seriously doubt the other dude was just strolling through campus and happened on a quite, peaceful protest. They both found what they were looking.

This is the equivalent of saying there were bad guys on both sides in Charlottesville. It was a silly thing to say then and now.

No, its not.

Yes, it is. Sorry, but it just is.

(03-06-2019 08:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Two guys looking for trouble managed to find each other. I seriously doubt the “conservative activist” was simply passing out cookies and pamphlets and I seriously doubt the other dude was just strolling through campus and happened on a quite, peaceful protest. They both found what they were looking.

"If she didn't want to be raped she shouldn't have worn that short skirt"

(03-06-2019 02:29 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 08:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Two guys looking for trouble managed to find each other. I seriously doubt the “conservative activist” was simply passing out cookies and pamphlets and I seriously doubt the other dude was just strolling through campus and happened on a quite, peaceful protest. They both found what they were looking.

"If she didn't want to be raped she shouldn't have worn that short skirt"

blaming the victim. indeed.

(03-06-2019 10:17 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 09:44 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 09:10 AM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 08:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Two guys looking for trouble managed to find each other. I seriously doubt the “conservative activist” was simply passing out cookies and pamphlets and I seriously doubt the other dude was just strolling through campus and happened on a quite, peaceful protest. They both found what they were looking.

This is the equivalent of saying there were bad guys on both sides in Charlottesville. It was a silly thing to say then and now.

No, its not.

Yes, it is. Sorry, but it just is.

I suppose if you sympathize with white supremacists then you might see it as such. I see it as people of good conscience in Charlottesville standing up to evil.

The nonsense in Berkeley was a fight between two people. I do not think either espoused the same evil rhetoric on display in Charlottesville.

(03-06-2019 03:25 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 10:17 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 09:44 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 09:10 AM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 08:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Two guys looking for trouble managed to find each other. I seriously doubt the “conservative activist” was simply passing out cookies and pamphlets and I seriously doubt the other dude was just strolling through campus and happened on a quite, peaceful protest. They both found what they were looking.

This is the equivalent of saying there were bad guys on both sides in Charlottesville. It was a silly thing to say then and now.

No, its not.

Yes, it is. Sorry, but it just is.

I suppose if you sympathize with white supremacists then you might see it as such. I see it as people of good conscience in Charlottesville standing up to evil.
The nonsense in Berkeley was a fight between two people. I do not think either espoused the same evil rhetoric on display in Charlottesville.

No sympathy with white supremacists here. You need to retract that comment.

As for Berkeley, it's not the same evil rhetoric. It's a different evil, but a one-sided one.

Man. I am old.

He punched him and left. Right? No, but it's not nearly as big a deal as is being made of it.

"Beaten" hardly applies. He punched him. Beaten would be punching him multiple times, some kicking, maybe slamming to the ground, and leaving him essentially unconscious.

He punched him.

I wouldn't expect the guy to see "long jail time". He'll get a fine and a suspended sentence.

Nothing says "racist alt-right white supreme-ist" like conservabro Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens' Turning Point USA.

Scientists are going to study the mind of the 2016-2024 alt-leftist for decades to come. Your brains are already complete mush, and you've still got 5+ years to go.

Dude plead not guilty and is on camera punching the dude.

(03-06-2019 08:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Two guys looking for trouble managed to find each other. I seriously doubt the “conservative activist” was simply passing out cookies and pamphlets and I seriously doubt the other dude was just strolling through campus and happened on a quite, peaceful protest. They both found what they were looking.

Dude, that's completely asinine. The fact you are trying to excuse his actions make you just as low as he is.

(03-07-2019 08:43 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Dude plead not guilty and is on camera punching the dude.

His attorney had also said he had a 'clean background'. Evidently didn't know about the restraining order filed against him by a former roommate. whopsie.

(03-02-2019 06:36 PM)q5sys Wrote:  

(03-02-2019 06:31 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(03-02-2019 06:29 PM)q5sys Wrote:  It is astounding the number of people in the twitter comments of the WaPo's tweet saying that this executive order will limit the free speech of everyone Trump doesn't like.

Legit question... How does a person read an article about any person enforcing the 1st amendment and take that to mean: That Person is going to restrict all speech that they don't like.

That's like thinking that someone saying we should enforce 4th amendment protections is going to break into your house tonight and steal all your stuff.

That mental jump is mind-boggling. I cannot fathom people being that brainwashed and being so unable to think critically that they come to that conclusion.

Easy answer .......... They're not a very smart bunch. If they were they wouldn't be Democrats.

That's a dismissive answer and doesn't address the issue. We have a problem in our society and we need to fix it. Simply saying 'Oh they're stupid' doesn't solve the problem at all. They'd call you stupid as well. Name calling gets us nowhere, but each side further entrenched in their position, it doesn't fix anything. The reason for this total disconnection from reality that people have needs to be identified so that we can figure out how to correct it.

I think that ship has sailed.

(03-06-2019 08:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Two guys looking for trouble managed to find each other. I seriously doubt the “conservative activist” was simply passing out cookies and pamphlets and I seriously doubt the other dude was just strolling through campus and happened on a quite, peaceful protest. They both found what they were looking.

The conservative planned all that out so that he could take a vicious shot to the jaw, very well I might add, because why?

(03-06-2019 01:39 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-05-2019 10:59 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Charged with 3 felonies and one misdemeanor. Not looking good for Mr.Tough Guy.

28 YO's?

So, what PhD program was he in?

Or, why was he there?

Hmmmmm, 1500$'?

His PhD program is Transgender and Transitioning Studies.

(03-07-2019 04:31 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 01:39 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-05-2019 10:59 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Charged with 3 felonies and one misdemeanor. Not looking good for Mr.Tough Guy.

28 YO's?

So, what PhD program was he in?

Or, why was he there?

Hmmmmm, 1500$'?

His PhD program is Transgender and Transitioning Studies.

No wonder he was so prone to violence.

(03-06-2019 09:44 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 09:10 AM)Centdukesfan Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 08:39 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Two guys looking for trouble managed to find each other. I seriously doubt the “conservative activist” was simply passing out cookies and pamphlets and I seriously doubt the other dude was just strolling through campus and happened on a quite, peaceful protest. They both found what they were looking.

This is the equivalent of saying there were bad guys on both sides in Charlottesville. It was a silly thing to say then and now.

No, its not. Words meant to provoke do exactly that... provoke. The Greenburg guy was wrong for losing his cool and hitting the alt-right activist... and he’ll pay the price...but let’s not pretend this was a boy scout who happebed to get roughed up.

I, obviously, didn’t see what prompted the melee, but I think its safe to say that two political activists on the same patch of grass at a school neither attends, didnt just happen up there.

Define "alt-right activist".

Define how a guy with a table set up and trying to recruit people to be Conservative (vice Socialist/Liberal) fits that definition.

Before you do either of those things ..... What I see here is a typical Liberal tactic (done by you) of trying to label someone to fit your narrative and try to make the situation look less horrible (for your side) than it actually was.

Suspect in assault on conservative activist at UC Berkeley has history of legal trouble

Roommate from hell....

Quote:The man accused of assaulting a conservative activist on the University of California, Berkeley campus last month has been the subject of a restraining order and has filed numerous restraining orders himself, attorney Harmeet Dhillon told Fox News on Wednesday.

Zachary Greenberg, 28, pleaded not guilty this week to three criminal charges stemming from his alleged assault of Hayden Williams, whose beating has received national attention and even been cited by President Trump during his recent CPAC speech. Williams, who is 26 years old and not a student at Berkeley, said he was manning a recruitment table on campus for conservative group Turning Point USA when a man alleged to be Greenberg punched him. The incident was caught on video and soon went viral.

Dhillon, Williams’ attorney, revealed on “Tucker Carlson Tonight" that Greenberg has had previous legal issues. He had allegedly filed numerous restraining orders and small claims against his roommates and also sued landlords -- but the cases were dismissed, Williams said.

Greenberg was also the subject of a restraining order in 2017 that was requested by one of his roommates, Dhillon said. That order was reportedly granted by the courts and, according to legal documents obtained by Fox News, Greenberg was also forced to turn over his 12-gauge pump shotgun and boxes of ammunition.

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