(02-08-2019 06:48 AM)wave97 Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 12:39 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 11:35 AM)Poseidon Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 07:42 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  I know there is a story and a reason behind this since it makes no geographic sense to place a team located in Maryland with teams, let's say, in Texas. I understand the placement of the Army Navy game ... but Navy in the West Division, not so much.

1) Cincy and the Florida Schools wanted to be in the east and they are full members.

2)Probably the main reason: the Naval Academy travels on the us txpayers dime and its cheaper for the conference to have them travel to all the west schools.

Their athletic department is completely private and is not funded with a single dollar of tax money.

You're joking, right? Navy Football is funded by defense contractors. Where do you think their money is coming from?

No doubt, the service academies are unique in the manner in which they award "scholarships" (appointments), recruit and support student athletes. But remember, these athletes are actually contractually obligated to military service once they accept an appointment. None the less, US Naval Academy athletics are privately funded (NAAA). Further there are FARs (federal acquisition regs) that would prohibit any cost recoupment to defense contractors under defense contracts for payments to fund athletic organizations - this means, practically speaking, that defense contractors would not be able or willing to financially support the NAAA. No doubt, since retired senior officers can be found in high positions with defense contractors, those individuals (as individuals) likely do support the NAAA if they are Naval Academy grads or Navy men, not unlike I support the Univ of Memphis as a Memphis grad. Also, I would think all of the service academies enjoy a level of respect & financial support from a much wider range of private citizens than do most other universities. But since the NAAA is a 501©3 org, with enough research, all who contribute can be determined through a properly completed FOIA request. And I'm betting you won't find one defense contractor among them.

(02-17-2019 07:56 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(02-08-2019 06:48 AM)wave97 Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 12:39 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 11:35 AM)Poseidon Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 07:42 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  I know there is a story and a reason behind this since it makes no geographic sense to place a team located in Maryland with teams, let's say, in Texas. I understand the placement of the Army Navy game ... but Navy in the West Division, not so much.

1) Cincy and the Florida Schools wanted to be in the east and they are full members.

2)Probably the main reason: the Naval Academy travels on the us txpayers dime and its cheaper for the conference to have them travel to all the west schools.

Their athletic department is completely private and is not funded with a single dollar of tax money.

You're joking, right? Navy Football is funded by defense contractors. Where do you think their money is coming from?

No doubt, the service academies are unique in the manner in which they award "scholarships" (appointments), recruit and support student athletes. But remember, these athletes are actually contractually obligated to military service once they accept an appointment. None the less, US Naval Academy athletics are privately funded (NAAA). Further there are FARs (federal acquisition regs) that would prohibit any cost recoupment to defense contractors under defense contracts for payments to fund athletic organizations - this means, practically speaking, that defense contractors would not be able or willing to financially support the NAAA. No doubt, since retired senior officers can be found in high positions with defense contractors, those individuals (as individuals) likely do support the NAAA if they are Naval Academy grads or Navy men, not unlike I support the Univ of Memphis as a Memphis grad. Also, I would think all of the service academies enjoy a level of respect & financial support from a much wider range of private citizens than do most other universities. But since the NAAA is a 501©3 org, with enough research, all who contribute can be determined through a properly completed FOIA request. And I'm betting you won't find one defense contractor among them.

Thanks for weighing in with your perspective, Atlanta

Navy will eventually do what army did in cusa, finish at or near the bottom on a yearly basis. Once they are regular on the schedule rotation, they will be figured out and exposed. Part of the difficulty in playing service academy’s is they have a very unique if not different style which is initially extremely difficult but over time, becomes manageable. That’s why I e always said and will continue to say the are better off independent.

(02-18-2019 10:51 AM)shirley temple Wrote:  Navy will eventually do what army did in cusa, finish at or near the bottom on a yearly basis. Once they are regular on the schedule rotation, they will be figured out and exposed. Part of the difficulty in playing service academy’s is they have a very unique if not different style which is initially extremely difficult but over time, becomes manageable. That’s why I e always said and will continue to say the are better off independent.

Kick out Navy. Add New Hampshire.

(02-18-2019 10:51 AM)shirley temple Wrote:  Navy will eventually do what army did in cusa, finish at or near the bottom on a yearly basis. Once they are regular on the schedule rotation, they will be figured out and exposed. Part of the difficulty in playing service academy’s is they have a very unique if not different style which is initially extremely difficult but over time, becomes manageable. That’s why I e always said and will continue to say the are better off independent.

Yes, what is this the fourth decade now of the academies being in trouble and not able to compete?

Like every program they have ups and downs. USC, OSU, and even Alabama

(02-18-2019 10:51 AM)shirley temple Wrote:  Navy will eventually do what army did in cusa, finish at or near the bottom on a yearly basis. Once they are regular on the schedule rotation, they will be figured out and exposed. Part of the difficulty in playing service academy’s is they have a very unique if not different style which is initially extremely difficult but over time, becomes manageable. That’s why I e always said and will continue to say the are better off independent.

I guess we'll see.

First of all, Army in 1998 moving up to CUSA and Navy in 2015 starting play in the AAC arent even a good comp. This is a good read: https://thebirddogblog.com/2015/06/10/wh...rican/amp/ For the tl;dr crowd, Army got all liqupred up on a 10-2, top25 season in 1996, but in the decade prior to 1998, Army had five winning seasons, but their schedules averaged three DI-AA teams a year; on the other hand Navy had a decade of demonstrated success with 17 wins over BCS/P5 and didnt really step up in schedule difficulty joining the American.

As far as the conference figuring out the offense, how many teams have the same DC as four years ago?
And if it was about figuring us out, why do the East teams have more of the conference wins over Navy than the West on fewer chances? Why does only ONE West team have more than a single win over Navy?

(02-18-2019 02:04 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 10:51 AM)shirley temple Wrote:  Navy will eventually do what army did in cusa, finish at or near the bottom on a yearly basis. Once they are regular on the schedule rotation, they will be figured out and exposed. Part of the difficulty in playing service academy’s is they have a very unique if not different style which is initially extremely difficult but over time, becomes manageable. That’s why I e always said and will continue to say the are better off independent.

I guess we'll see.

First of all, Army in 1998 moving up to CUSA and Navy in 2015 starting play in the AAC arent even a good comp. This is a good read: https://thebirddogblog.com/2015/06/10/wh...rican/amp/ For the tl;dr crowd, Army got all liqupred up on a 10-2, top25 season in 1996, but in the decade prior to 1998, Army had five winning seasons, but their schedules averaged three DI-AA teams a year; on the other hand Navy had a decade of demonstrated success with 17 wins over BCS/P5 and didnt really step up in schedule difficulty joining the American.

As far as the conference figuring out the offense, how many teams have the same DC as four years ago?
And if it was about figuring us out, why do the East teams have more of the conference wins over Navy than the West on fewer chances? Why does only ONE West team have more than a single win over Navy?

Had lunch with our dc two weeks ago and he said it’s nearly impossible to learn how to truly defend the triple option as we have new kids coming in every year

(02-18-2019 02:33 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 02:04 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 10:51 AM)shirley temple Wrote:  Navy will eventually do what army did in cusa, finish at or near the bottom on a yearly basis. Once they are regular on the schedule rotation, they will be figured out and exposed. Part of the difficulty in playing service academy’s is they have a very unique if not different style which is initially extremely difficult but over time, becomes manageable. That’s why I e always said and will continue to say the are better off independent.

I guess we'll see.

First of all, Army in 1998 moving up to CUSA and Navy in 2015 starting play in the AAC arent even a good comp. This is a good read: https://thebirddogblog.com/2015/06/10/wh...rican/amp/ For the tl;dr crowd, Army got all liqupred up on a 10-2, top25 season in 1996, but in the decade prior to 1998, Army had five winning seasons, but their schedules averaged three DI-AA teams a year; on the other hand Navy had a decade of demonstrated success with 17 wins over BCS/P5 and didnt really step up in schedule difficulty joining the American.

As far as the conference figuring out the offense, how many teams have the same DC as four years ago?
And if it was about figuring us out, why do the East teams have more of the conference wins over Navy than the West on fewer chances? Why does only ONE West team have more than a single win over Navy?

Had lunch with our dc two weeks ago and he said it’s nearly impossible to learn how to truly defend the triple option as we have new kids coming in every year

Yeah...you had lunch with the SMU DC alright....at The Dairy Whip. You guys had tater tots and a cheeseburger. Don't act all big time.


Proof:

I can't believe MS Paint is still a thing

(02-18-2019 02:44 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  I can't believe MS Paint is still a thing

lol my MS Paint contributions to this forum cannot be overlooked

BC5 working his way back up to #1.

(02-18-2019 02:51 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  BC5 working his way back up to #1.

Im in play for a 1 seed.....don't want to blow it in the final two weeks.