(01-24-2019 11:34 AM)HarvardTiger Wrote:  How does Dandridge compare to Tarik Black coming out of HS? as in performance in HS, upside, etc. Do you guys feel he will produce more, less or about the same as Tarik did at Memphis?

He’s so much better it isn’t even funny.

To clarify, I am saying Dandridge (in my opinion of course) is way better than Black. I went to see Black many times and he lacked offensive skills big time. Obviously I have seen Dandridge several times and I like his game. I have been impressed with many aspects of his game. I actually couldn’t believe the difference in Dandridge’s junior year vs his present senior year. To me it’s like night and day. I instantly thought we had a steal of a player.

(01-24-2019 09:35 AM)cmt Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 08:58 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 10:05 PM)shirley temple Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 12:10 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 11:30 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  There’s no way there are 100 better players than Malco Dandridge. No way. Of course I don’t understand how rankings work, so there’s that. But still.

Malcolm is very good but there’s 1000s of high school players. As skilled as Malcolm is top 100 is very special.

Correct; he is good, not near top 100 though

I disagree.

He's already "near" top 100 in all the rankings.

Right, I’m with you on that. I was just saying I don’t think there are 100 better ball players.

I think Dandridge has a really good 4 year career at Memphis . . . And I love how much he pumps up Memphis. You can tell he truly doesn’t want anything else but to be a Memphis Tiger.

(01-23-2019 11:17 PM)HarvardTiger Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 10:59 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 07:59 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Watford and Presious giving Memphis serious looks
Don't count out Hurt, there's a good possibility he'll be a Tiger

Believe me I hope I'm wrong. Penny has some surprises up his sleeve, just not Hurt and or Precious I'm. Hurt will wind up at Kansas or Minnesota (Kansas) and Precious will likely end up at UConn or UNC. (UConn)

I think we still pick up a graduate transfer, and possibly a juco and Watford.

if we end up getting a grad transfer and a JUCO then the staff had an epic fail. If we bomb on everyone else then I suspect staff will not take anyone just to get bodies. They did that with some of the guys last year. I would hope we keep some flexibility for possible reclassifications and the 2020 class, which could be a much stronger class than 2019 for us.

Epic fail? With a top 15 class and the #1 and #48 players in the country signed? That's ridiculous.

I think the chances are decent that we get a grad transfer or a juco to balance out the classes a bit - no matter whether we sign anyone else out of HS or not. As it stands right now, next year we'll have:
1 senior
2 juniors
4 sophomores
5 freshmen
We could certainly use some more experience next year.

(01-24-2019 01:28 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 09:35 AM)cmt Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 08:58 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 10:05 PM)shirley temple Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 12:10 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  Malcolm is very good but there’s 1000s of high school players. As skilled as Malcolm is top 100 is very special.

Correct; he is good, not near top 100 though

I disagree.

He's already "near" top 100 in all the rankings.

Right, I’m with you on that. I was just saying I don’t think there are 100 better ball players.

I was responding to Shirley

Tarik Black was a consensus top-50 recruit ... Rated the No. 26 player in the country by Northstar Basketball Blog, No. 35 player by MaxPreps.com, No. 47 by Rivals.com, No. 48 by PrepStars.com and No. 54 by ESPN.com ... Rivals.com ranked him the No. 7 center in the nation ... Rated the No. 18 power forward by Scout.com ...

I'm a big fan of Dandridge and think he'll be a better college player than he was in high school. That said, TB was a MUCH better high school player.

(01-24-2019 02:04 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 11:17 PM)HarvardTiger Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 10:59 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 07:59 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Watford and Presious giving Memphis serious looks
Don't count out Hurt, there's a good possibility he'll be a Tiger

Believe me I hope I'm wrong. Penny has some surprises up his sleeve, just not Hurt and or Precious I'm. Hurt will wind up at Kansas or Minnesota (Kansas) and Precious will likely end up at UConn or UNC. (UConn)

I think we still pick up a graduate transfer, and possibly a juco and Watford.

if we end up getting a grad transfer and a JUCO then the staff had an epic fail. If we bomb on everyone else then I suspect staff will not take anyone just to get bodies. They did that with some of the guys last year. I would hope we keep some flexibility for possible reclassifications and the 2020 class, which could be a much stronger class than 2019 for us.

Epic fail? With a top 15 class and the #1 and #48 players in the country signed? That's ridiculous.

I think the chances are decent that we get a grad transfer or a juco to balance out the classes a bit - no matter whether we sign anyone else out of HS or not. As it stands right now, next year we'll have:
1 senior
2 juniors
4 sophomores
5 freshmen
We could certainly use some more experience next year.

I stated epic fail because the staff appears to be targeting and prioritizing guys like Hurt, Watford, Achiuwa, Baugh, Edwards and Quinones for the spring signing period.I don't believe the staff feels they are going to swing and miss on the preps. Miller, Hardaway and Madlock are still actively visiting their targets. If we don't get any of these guys and land with a JUCO and a grad transfer, to me, that appears like they didn't meet their own expectations and they rolled back to last minute contingencies.

They publicly would not say they failed during the spring signing period but behind the scenes I suspect they would think otherwise. Hardaway made it a goal to have the #1 recruiting class.

(01-24-2019 02:17 PM)HarvardTiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 02:04 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 11:17 PM)HarvardTiger Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 10:59 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 07:59 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Watford and Presious giving Memphis serious looks
Don't count out Hurt, there's a good possibility he'll be a Tiger

Believe me I hope I'm wrong. Penny has some surprises up his sleeve, just not Hurt and or Precious I'm. Hurt will wind up at Kansas or Minnesota (Kansas) and Precious will likely end up at UConn or UNC. (UConn)

I think we still pick up a graduate transfer, and possibly a juco and Watford.

if we end up getting a grad transfer and a JUCO then the staff had an epic fail. If we bomb on everyone else then I suspect staff will not take anyone just to get bodies. They did that with some of the guys last year. I would hope we keep some flexibility for possible reclassifications and the 2020 class, which could be a much stronger class than 2019 for us.

Epic fail? With a top 15 class and the #1 and #48 players in the country signed? That's ridiculous.

I think the chances are decent that we get a grad transfer or a juco to balance out the classes a bit - no matter whether we sign anyone else out of HS or not. As it stands right now, next year we'll have:
1 senior
2 juniors
4 sophomores
5 freshmen
We could certainly use some more experience next year.

I stated epic fail because the staff appears to be targeting and prioritizing guys like Hurt, Watford, Achiuwa, Baugh, Edwards and Quinones for the spring signing period.I don't believe the staff feels they are going to swing and miss on the preps. Miller, Hardaway and Madlock are still actively visiting their targets. If we don't get any of these guys and land with a JUCO and a grad transfer, to me, that appears like they didn't meet their own expectations and they rolled back to last minute contingencies.

They publicly would not say they failed during the spring signing period but behind the scenes I suspect they would think otherwise. Hardaway made it a goal to have the #1 recruiting class.

I get the general hyperbolic nature of this board, but getting 3 of your top targets should never be labeled an epic fail. By the definition you describe, even if we sign one or two of the players listed, the class will be some kind of disappointment because we will "miss" on 4 or 5 of our top targets in the spring.

(01-24-2019 03:02 PM)Trapper John Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 02:17 PM)HarvardTiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 02:04 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 11:17 PM)HarvardTiger Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 10:59 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Believe me I hope I'm wrong. Penny has some surprises up his sleeve, just not Hurt and or Precious I'm. Hurt will wind up at Kansas or Minnesota (Kansas) and Precious will likely end up at UConn or UNC. (UConn)

I think we still pick up a graduate transfer, and possibly a juco and Watford.

if we end up getting a grad transfer and a JUCO then the staff had an epic fail. If we bomb on everyone else then I suspect staff will not take anyone just to get bodies. They did that with some of the guys last year. I would hope we keep some flexibility for possible reclassifications and the 2020 class, which could be a much stronger class than 2019 for us.

Epic fail? With a top 15 class and the #1 and #48 players in the country signed? That's ridiculous.

I think the chances are decent that we get a grad transfer or a juco to balance out the classes a bit - no matter whether we sign anyone else out of HS or not. As it stands right now, next year we'll have:
1 senior
2 juniors
4 sophomores
5 freshmen
We could certainly use some more experience next year.

I stated epic fail because the staff appears to be targeting and prioritizing guys like Hurt, Watford, Achiuwa, Baugh, Edwards and Quinones for the spring signing period.I don't believe the staff feels they are going to swing and miss on the preps. Miller, Hardaway and Madlock are still actively visiting their targets. If we don't get any of these guys and land with a JUCO and a grad transfer, to me, that appears like they didn't meet their own expectations and they rolled back to last minute contingencies.

They publicly would not say they failed during the spring signing period but behind the scenes I suspect they would think otherwise. Hardaway made it a goal to have the #1 recruiting class.

I get the general hyperbolic nature of this board, but getting 3 of your top targets should never be labeled an epic fail. By the definition you describe, even if we sign one or two of the players listed, the class will be some kind of disappointment because we will "miss" on 4 or 5 of our top targets in the spring.

that's not true. If the staff gets 2 of their priority targets, that is not a fail for the spring signing period. It is an epic fail if they got none of their priority targets and end up settling for a JUCO and a grad transfer as their spring signings.

To be clear, I am not talking about the full class as a whole (fall and spring signing periods. I am specifically talking about the spring only.

Good to see Wiseman still at the top spot even with Top Gun reclassifying to '19.

(01-24-2019 03:05 PM)HarvardTiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 03:02 PM)Trapper John Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 02:17 PM)HarvardTiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 02:04 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 11:17 PM)HarvardTiger Wrote:  if we end up getting a grad transfer and a JUCO then the staff had an epic fail. If we bomb on everyone else then I suspect staff will not take anyone just to get bodies. They did that with some of the guys last year. I would hope we keep some flexibility for possible reclassifications and the 2020 class, which could be a much stronger class than 2019 for us.

Epic fail? With a top 15 class and the #1 and #48 players in the country signed? That's ridiculous.

I think the chances are decent that we get a grad transfer or a juco to balance out the classes a bit - no matter whether we sign anyone else out of HS or not. As it stands right now, next year we'll have:
1 senior
2 juniors
4 sophomores
5 freshmen
We could certainly use some more experience next year.

I stated epic fail because the staff appears to be targeting and prioritizing guys like Hurt, Watford, Achiuwa, Baugh, Edwards and Quinones for the spring signing period.I don't believe the staff feels they are going to swing and miss on the preps. Miller, Hardaway and Madlock are still actively visiting their targets. If we don't get any of these guys and land with a JUCO and a grad transfer, to me, that appears like they didn't meet their own expectations and they rolled back to last minute contingencies.

They publicly would not say they failed during the spring signing period but behind the scenes I suspect they would think otherwise. Hardaway made it a goal to have the #1 recruiting class.

I get the general hyperbolic nature of this board, but getting 3 of your top targets should never be labeled an epic fail. By the definition you describe, even if we sign one or two of the players listed, the class will be some kind of disappointment because we will "miss" on 4 or 5 of our top targets in the spring.

that's not true. If the staff gets 2 of their priority targets, that is not a fail for the spring signing period. It is an epic fail if they got none of their priority targets and end up settling for a JUCO and a grad transfer as their spring signings.

To be clear, I am not talking about the full class as a whole (fall and spring signing periods. I am specifically talking about the spring only.

But you can't be so myopic as to look at Spring signing as something different from Fall signing. You have to look at the complete class. They will all be coming in together this fall - playing as teammates and competing for minutes. The class will be judged in its entirety - not based upon Fall and Spring.

So the fact that we got our #1 target (Wiseman) and 2 of our next tier targets (Dandridge, Jeffries), then the class is a success. There is no epic fail if we don't sign another person. It makes no sense to say, "Great Fall class but epic fail on the Spring class".

I agree that Penny and all of us will be disappointed if we don't get one more top 25ish guy. But that's a long way from epic fail.

Don't give a **** about the rankings, Malcolm Dandridge is going to be a beast.

(01-24-2019 08:28 AM)cmt Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 11:17 PM)HarvardTiger Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 10:59 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 07:59 PM)memphisike Wrote:  Watford and Presious giving Memphis serious looks
Don't count out Hurt, there's a good possibility he'll be a Tiger

Believe me I hope I'm wrong. Penny has some surprises up his sleeve, just not Hurt and or Precious I'm. Hurt will wind up at Kansas or Minnesota (Kansas) and Precious will likely end up at UConn or UNC. (UConn)

I think we still pick up a graduate transfer, and possibly a juco and Watford.

if we end up getting a grad transfer and a JUCO then the staff had an epic fail. If we bomb on everyone else then I suspect staff will not take anyone just to get bodies. They did that with some of the guys last year. I would hope we keep some flexibility for possible reclassifications and the 2020 class, which could be a much stronger class than 2019 for us.

Epic fail? No. But if we still have a scholarship left after our targets have made their decision, the goal what be to get a grad transfer to help next years team win as much as possible.

And a juco for the following season as well. We are going to need some more mature players if we really want to win it all. It's not a fail at all, it's called addressing needs

(01-24-2019 02:15 PM)450bench Wrote:  Tarik Black was a consensus top-50 recruit ... Rated the No. 26 player in the country by Northstar Basketball Blog, No. 35 player by MaxPreps.com, No. 47 by Rivals.com, No. 48 by PrepStars.com and No. 54 by ESPN.com ... Rivals.com ranked him the No. 7 center in the nation ... Rated the No. 18 power forward by Scout.com ...

I'm a big fan of Dandridge and think he'll be a better college player than he was in high school. That said, TB was a MUCH better high school player.

Black was better. People on here get so far off with this, if you try and be realistic, they try and act as if you dislike or are putting someone down. Clown show of homertism sometimes!

(01-27-2019 12:08 AM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  Don't give a **** about the rankings, Malcolm Dandridge is going to be a beast.

We said the same about Lomax and I still think Lomax will be a solid college player. But I do think we may need to curb expectations in year 1 for Dandridge.

Dandridge is solid but he’s not a superstar like some here think. When he’s playing everyday with guys his size and talent it will show. I think he will be a great 4 year player though.

(01-27-2019 08:27 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  Dandridge is solid but he’s not a superstar like some here think. When he’s playing everyday with guys his size and talent it will show. I think he will be a great 4 year player though.

I think he will rebound well from the start...

I think he will be a good defender but likely will foul a ton at the beginning of the season.

I don't expect him to score a ton of points.

It will take him some to me to become a good defender at the 4. But he will work hard to get there.