caving used to be called compromise. compromise can be a wonderful thing. it works in relationships...it works in business. Let's get this wall built...let's give kids a path to citizenship.

(01-05-2019 07:33 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 05:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Lol. Lindsay Graham just offered "3 year delay on Dreamers with no citizenship rights, and no guaranteeof renewal" for letting Trump get his stupid wall. No thanks. Not even close.

And I dont think we should reward hostage taking aimed at kids. This is going to last until McConnell and 19 other Republican Senators defy Trump and pass the same continuation bill they voted for a month ago.

Who is caving?

I mean these kids have been held hostage by both parties and by two separate administrations… time for a compromise. but the dem base won't go for that... they will screw the kids...

pathetic show by all..

They've screwed them once already when Trump was willing to negotiate. Let them stay but no to citizenship unless they work for it by other means, and one of them is military service, first responders, or the medical field.

5-10 billion is toilet paper. Trump painted the Dems into a corner. Dems preached against illegal immigration and voted against illegal immigration. Now you are a bigot, racist blah blah blah if you are against illegal immigration. Even as illegals kill Americans every day, every day an illegal kills an American.

(01-05-2019 08:24 PM)No Bull Wrote:  caving used to be called compromise. compromise can be a wonderful thing. it works in relationships...it works in business. Let's get this wall built...let's give kids a path to citizenship.

Amen

(01-05-2019 08:34 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 07:33 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 05:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Lol. Lindsay Graham just offered "3 year delay on Dreamers with no citizenship rights, and no guaranteeof renewal" for letting Trump get his stupid wall. No thanks. Not even close.

And I dont think we should reward hostage taking aimed at kids. This is going to last until McConnell and 19 other Republican Senators defy Trump and pass the same continuation bill they voted for a month ago.

Who is caving?

I mean these kids have been held hostage by both parties and by two separate administrations… time for a compromise. but the dem base won't go for that... they will screw the kids...

pathetic show by all..

They've screwed them once already when Trump was willing to negotiate. Let them stay but no to citizenship unless they work for it by other means, and one of them is military service, first responders, or the medical field.

I agree with you, but compromise on this group is ok.

(01-05-2019 05:31 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 11:58 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And Bloomberg is Right of center. Its just not white nationalist

So who is center it a liberal's mind? Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Lenin.

(01-05-2019 08:40 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  5-10 billion is toilet paper. Trump painted the Dems into a corner. Dems preached against illegal immigration and voted against illegal immigration. Now you are a bigot, racist blah blah blah if you are against illegal immigration. Even as illegals kill Americans every day, every day an illegal kills an American.

Well harvesting votes in California without proper registration helped them steal about 5 seats. So......

(01-05-2019 05:31 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 11:58 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And Bloomberg is Right of center. Its just not white nationalist

So who is center it a liberal's mind? Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Sharrod Brown, Beto O'Rourke, Hickenlooper, Inslee, ....

AOC, voted against the rules package on Friday because she was upset about a conservative funding mechanism being reinstated at Pelosi's insistence. She did so by herself. 238 Dems declined to follow her.

Bloomberg is a slightly right of center publication. They dont like deficits, tariffs, and oppose many regulations. What they arent is white nationalist.

(01-05-2019 08:24 PM)No Bull Wrote:  caving used to be called compromise. compromise can be a wonderful thing. it works in relationships...it works in business. Let's get this wall built...let's give kids a path to citizenship.

No Citizenship.

(01-06-2019 06:30 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 05:31 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 11:58 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And Bloomberg is Right of center. Its just not white nationalist

So who is center it a liberal's mind? Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Sharrod Brown, Beto O'Rourke, Hickenlooper, Inslee, ....

They are nowhere near the center.

(01-05-2019 11:58 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And Bloomberg is Right of center. Its just not white nationalist

Negotiations with a proven billionaire negotiator makes dems look dim witted.....and they don’t even realize they are bleeding.

(01-06-2019 06:30 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 05:31 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 11:58 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And Bloomberg is Right of center. Its just not white nationalist

So who is center it a liberal's mind? Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Sharrod Brown, Beto O'Rourke, Hickenlooper, Inslee, ....

AOC, voted against the rules package on Friday because she was upset about a conservative funding mechanism being reinstated at Pelosi's insistence. She did so by herself. 238 Dems declined to follow her.

Bloomberg is a slightly right of center publication. They dont like deficits, tariffs, and oppose many regulations. What they arent is white nationalist.

The only democrat even near center is Joe Manchin. Democrats now try to get further left of each other to get the far left support in the party.

(01-06-2019 06:30 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 05:31 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 11:58 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And Bloomberg is Right of center. Its just not white nationalist

So who is center it a liberal's mind? Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Sharrod Brown, Beto O'Rourke, Hickenlooper, Inslee, ....

AOC, voted against the rules package on Friday because she was upset about a conservative funding mechanism being reinstated at Pelosi's insistence. She did so by herself. 238 Dems declined to follow her.

Bloomberg is a slightly right of center publication. They dont like deficits, tariffs, and oppose many regulations. What they arent is white nationalist.

The only place they may be right of center is within the Democratic Party which has shifted well to the left. They are definitely well to the left among all Americans.

beto was a co-sponsor of the "assault weapons" ban of 2018.

That isn't a moderate position, that is an alt-left fringe position.

(01-05-2019 01:31 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 12:43 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 11:56 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Trump wont budge on the dreamers. Negotiating with him is like playing chess with a pidgeon. Hes just going to knock over all the pieces, sh*t on the board, then strut around like he won.

U seem so angry down in Argentina. Go out get some tapas.. Visit some friends.. Live a little.

Let it go.. U know Trump is not going to budge. The wall is getting built. Just let go and stop being bitter about it.

Not angry. Just telling the truth. Its been a great trip. Its really nice down here. Much better than in 03 or 09. Last day of weeks long vacations tend to be slow. Youve seen everything and all you have to look forward to is 20 hours of travel. Good news is that Im not connecting in the US on the return so I wont have to deal with TSA delays. Off to meet some folks for coffee.

The Dems cant cave either. Unless McConnell caves, there will be an extended shutdown.

Yeah man get a way from this nonsense for a while. Best part of my recent trip to South America was the absence of US political crap. I didn't hear about any of it unless I went looking for it.