(12-22-2018 04:13 PM)Mimi Wrote:  It was correct to go for two that late in the game.

The idea is there will be maybe one more score at all.

6 point lead that late instead of 5 means they have to make the extra point. And as we saw late, kicks get missed, especially if a penalty moves you backwards.

You are more stupid than I thought if you believe this.

Dude. I am not stupid.

I know you are trolling but grow up a little.

*******.

(12-22-2018 04:13 PM)Mimi Wrote:  It was correct to go for two that late in the game.

The idea is there will be maybe one more score at all.

6 point lead that late instead of 5 means they have to make the extra point. And as we saw late, kicks get missed, especially if a penalty moves you backwards.

Sorry, under no circumstances should he have gone for 2, it was absolutely incorrect.

At best you get it, and they score a td and you are down 1. At worst, they run it back and now can win with a fg. In the middle, you miss it, the other team scores and now instead of needing a fg to win, you need a fg to tie.

It is simple, basic math. It doesn't require much thought. When going for 2 you can't just think about the moment, you have to add it up to see scenarios. It was not the right call.

Norvell can get a little nervous and conservative in the 2nd half of games and his team follows his lead. If you coach not to lose, then you will always lose. In the 2nd half of both UCF games, the Navy game, and again today, Norvell let his wife store his nads in her purse for safe keeping.

That was assshole.

(12-22-2018 04:16 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Dude. I am not stupid.

Let's agree to disagree and move on. EAD.

It is not as significant as a TD putting you up 5 where obviously you go for 2 because 7 is so much better than 6.

But, 6 is a little better than 5 late, so you go for it so if you get it they have to make the extra point.

Very late in a game 5 is no different than 4.

Our game had two possible scores in the last 1 minute 10 seconds which is highly unusual.

I dislike going for two until the fourth quarter but if we are getting on Norvell for needing to get more detailed, this was one area where he got it right. Statistically, you increase your chance of winning a tiny bit by going for 2 there.

(12-22-2018 04:21 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 04:16 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Dude. I am not stupid.

Let's agree to disagree and move on. EAD.

Nice try.

What a child.

You eat a dik *******.

(12-22-2018 03:46 PM)Rocko Wrote:  Riley misses in the clutch almost every time. He's made us lose often.

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We need Gotti and/or Elliott to work with Patterson over the summer. So much of kicking is mental.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whe...-for-real/

.2% better chance of winning going for two.

(12-22-2018 04:22 PM)Mimi Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 04:21 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 04:16 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Dude. I am not stupid.

Let's agree to disagree and move on. EAD.

Nice try.

What a child.

You eat a dik *******.

You still got the chick with the tittys in your sig? And the baby? And I'm the child?

(12-22-2018 04:14 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 03:52 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 03:49 PM)UofMark Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 03:41 PM)tigertrails Wrote:  And why not take a final shot in end zone instead of putting ball in middle of field? Horrible calls and clock mgmt.

Three chances to win late. A draw? you're got to be kidding me, a incomplete pass, and a centering kneel down?
This was embarrassingly bad and it makes me incredibly disappointed as a fan.

Considering Brady's decision making wasn't the best in the world today. Centering the ball was the right call. 9 seconds left you can't count on brady making sure he get's rid of the ball with time left to even try for a kick.

Riley has to make the fg. Riley consistently chokes under pressure.

Well you said it. Brady probably could not have gotten it done and our FG kicker is known to be very unreliable when it matters.

It's obvious CMN doesn't trust his QB

Basketball up 61-23.

Weird to be known.

Feature exercised. Thanks bbs!

(12-22-2018 04:13 PM)Mimi Wrote:  It was correct to go for two that late in the game.

Wrong

(12-22-2018 04:21 PM)Mimi Wrote:  It is not as significant as a TD putting you up 5 where obviously you go for 2 because 7 is so much better than 6.

But, 6 is a little better than 5 late, so you go for it so if you get it they have to make the extra point.

Very late in a game 5 is no different than 4.

Our game had two possible scores in the last 1 minute 10 seconds which is highly unusual.

I dislike going for two until the fourth quarter but if we are getting on Norvell for needing to get more detailed, this was one area where he got it right. Statistically, you increase your chance of winning a tiny bit by going for 2 there.

No, you statistically increase your chance of winning by CONVERTING the two point conversion. Which has a historical probability around 40%. That means, statistically, a two point conversion isn’t worth two points. It would only be worth 2 points if you could convert 100% of your attempts. With close to 40% conversion rate, the play is actually worth around .90, depending on the team. Sometimes the extra point is worth more although not 1.0 because most teams miss one every once in a while.

(12-22-2018 04:24 PM)Mimi Wrote:  https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whe...-for-real/

.2% better chance of winning going for two.

You have to account for the probability of converting the two point play. Which is different for each team.

(12-22-2018 04:15 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 04:13 PM)Mimi Wrote:  It was correct to go for two that late in the game.

The idea is there will be maybe one more score at all.

6 point lead that late instead of 5 means they have to make the extra point. And as we saw late, kicks get missed, especially if a penalty moves you backwards.

You are more stupid than I thought if you b6elieve this.

chart of when to go for 2

(12-22-2018 04:41 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 04:15 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  

(12-22-2018 04:13 PM)Mimi Wrote:  It was correct to go for two that late in the game.

The idea is there will be maybe one more score at all.

6 point lead that late instead of 5 means they have to make the extra point. And as we saw late, kicks get missed, especially if a penalty moves you backwards.

You are more stupid than I thought if you b6elieve this.

chart of when to go for 2

Man you can't just use that chart that takes nothing into account except for what the current score is.

Dudes.

The point is, even if you choose to ignore the statistics, it was not a clear mistake.

And statistics show it was the right move.

You are going on results. Norvell was going on what gave Memphis a slightly higher winning percentage. Note not much later we missed a kick, but that is irrelevant.

Yes, feel for this and that etc... all matter but focusing on that decision seems out of place. Wonder what the percentage make of a FG is when you give up two yards, offset by centering.

(12-22-2018 04:50 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Dudes.

The point is, even if you choose to ignore the statistics, it was not a clear mistake.

And statistics show it was the right move.

You are going on results. Norvell was going on what gave Memphis a slightly higher winning percentage. Note not much later we missed a kick, but that is irrelevant.

Yes, feel for this and that etc... all matter but focusing on that decision seems out of place. Wonder what the percentage make of a FG is when you give up two yards, offset by centering.

For our team? 0.00%