I remember all that solidarity when schools thought the Big 12 might expand. Boy that was some solidarity. Everyone in the AAC submitted an application to the Big 12 --with the exception of Navy and Tulsa. Ten AAC schools climbing over each other, one solid mass, like their collective ass was on fire.

(12-12-2018 04:09 PM)B easy Wrote:  

(12-12-2018 03:59 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(12-12-2018 03:46 PM)otown Wrote:  

(12-12-2018 01:58 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Minimum $10 million dollars per school, a guaranteed G5 playoff spot, and a better bowl for our #1 or #2 team (preferably a NY6 bowl) and I'm totally down with the GOR. Otherwise, not interested.

I am against sharing crap with G5 at this point. Everything to date that was ceded by the P5, such as the G5 NY6, was put in by Aresco. I do not want our conference's accomplishments being used to get anything extra for the G5. Anything extra at this point is strictly for the AAC and not shared with anyone else. I will use the same damn arguement the P5 uses against us. We have 5 or so strong schools that any given season are very good. The G4 as 1 or 2 tops, some years none, that are very good.
Yes, the AAC has owned the bid most years so far....... but it is utter BS that a WMU can sneak in playing in the MAC. We shouldn't be in contention with BSU since most year the rest of the MWC sucks and it's easy for them to stand out. More importantly, it is complete BS that UCF could have lost to Memphis for a single loss in 2 seasons and then a 2 loss MWC champ would have gone to the NY6.
So NO, anything being negotiated using the chips at the table earned by the AAC should stay with the AAC. I do not want to hear that we are negotiating for things that we have to compete with the G4 for.
Quite frankly, if the P5 agree to it and the AAC agree with it, that is six vs four in favor. The G4 can pound sand and if they do not like it, they do not need to sign on and can form their tournament that they so badly want to create.

FINALLY!!! HOLY MOLY. I've been saying this forever. We've collectively as a conference been ridiculed and mistreated yet our programs continued to invest literally 100s of millions to get to this point and now we are supposed to share it with the sunbelt? The mwc? The mac? Cusa? Let's grab byu, Boise, SDSU and Airforce
and celebrate. Heck didn't the OBE cripple their closest competitors CUSA. Didn't the ACC do the same to the OBE.

While I am pushing unity as a conference I concur with these sentiments as well. It's not like the G4 would help us out even if they could. We have a superior product for a variety or reasons and we need to get paid.

I'd you're curious go to cougarboard.com the byu board. Their thinking the same thing. Why go back to the mwc when the can join the AAC and bring Boise and SDSU and Fresno with them, killing the competition.

How I think UCF feels right now.....

(12-12-2018 04:49 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  How I think UCF feels right now.....

Good one. Like UCF, Auda abu Tayi was the most successful of the tribal leaders which made it difficult to bring him into the fold but ultimately he did join the other tribes because Lawrence convinced him that the 'golden treasure' he earned was merely just a servant's salary 'a trifle' compared to what the powers that be have in their 'great box' they hide. The reason he ultimately joined the other tribes is that he was convinced that it was actually his 'pleasure' to stick it to the Turks. He also knew he could get even more riches by banding together and taking what he wanted as opposed to supporting the existing power structure for just a handout.





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_o...lm)#Part_I

Lawrence persuades Auda abu Tayi, the leader of the powerful local Howeitat tribe, to turn against the Turks. Lawrence's scheme is almost derailed when one of Ali's men kills one of Auda's because of a blood feud. Howeitat retaliation would shatter the fragile alliance, so Lawrence declares that he will execute the murderer himself. He is then stunned to discover that the culprit is Gasim, the very man whom he risked his own life to save in the desert, but he shoots him anyway.

The next morning, the Arabs overrun the Turkish garrison. Lawrence heads to Cairo to inform Dryden and the new commander, General Allenby, of his victory. While crossing the Sinai Desert, Daud dies when he stumbles into quicksand. Lawrence is promoted to major and given arms and money for the Arabs. He is deeply disturbed, however, confessing that he enjoyed executing Gasim, but Allenby brushes aside his qualms. He asks Allenby whether there is any basis for the Arabs' suspicions that the British have designs on Arabia. When pressed, the general states that they do not.

(12-12-2018 01:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Did we need another thread? Aresco already said no GOR, and no unequal distribution. End of story.

Yep

(12-12-2018 01:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Did we need another thread? Aresco already said no GOR, and no unequal distribution. End of story.

He was pretty adamant that there would be no unequal revenue sharing. The GOR was question was frankly dodged. He said something to the effect that we have discussed it and we havent asked the school for anything..."yet".

"Not gonna Happen" read my lips "Not gonna Happen"

(12-12-2018 07:05 PM)CincyBro Wrote:  "Not gonna Happen" read my lips "Not gonna Happen"

RIP

But we already started painting the Big East logo on our court...

I'm all for unity...until I'm not.

(12-12-2018 08:56 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I'm all for unity...until I'm not.

I'm Rick James *****!

Governing Dynamics - John Nash
The best result will come from everyone in the group doing what's best for himself, and the group.

Meanwhile up in AAC headquarters, negotiations continue...

"....Now if we don't get into it somebody else will. Maybe one of the P5 families maybe all of them. Now with the money they earn they can buy more police and political power, then they come after us.... It's the thing of the future. If we don't get a piece of that action we risk everything we have. I mean not now but 10 years from now." - Tom Hagen, consigliere to the Corleone family

"...Come here. What's the matter with you? I think your brain is going soft.... Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again. Go on." - Mike Aresco speaking to unspecified AAC athletic directors





"I want you to arrange a meeting with the heads of the P5 families. This war stops now.... How did things ever get so far. I don't know. It's so unfortunate, so unnecessary.... I hoped that we could come here and reason together. And as a reasonable man I'm willing to do whatever's necessary to find a peaceful solution to these problems." - Vito Andolini Corleone





"...Don't ever take sides with anyone against the family again...ever."

(12-12-2018 04:49 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  How I think UCF feels right now.....

A little people, a silly people

https://youtu.be/4gMt1PBC5BU

"Now either we heal as a team or we’re gonna crumble, inch by inch, play by play, 'til we’re finished.





We’re in hell right now, gentlemen, believe me. And, we can stay here -- get the **** kicked out of us -- or we can fight our way back into the light. We can climb outta hell one inch at a time..

The inches we need are everywhere around us.

They’re in every break of the game, every minute, every second.

On this team, we fight for that inch. On this team, we tear ourselves and everyone else around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch, because we know when we add up all those inches that’s gonna make the fuckin' difference between winning and losing! Between livin' and dyin'!

I’ll tell you this: In any fight, it’s the guy who’s willing to die who’s gonna win that inch. And I know if I’m gonna have any life anymore, it’s because I’m still willin' to fight and die for that inch. Because that’s what livin' is! The six inches in front of your face!!

Now I can’t make you do it. You got to look at the guy next to you. Look into his eyes! Now I think you’re gonna see a guy who will go that inch with you. You're gonna see a guy who will sacrifice himself for this team because he knows, when it comes down to it, you’re gonna do the same for him!

That’s a team, gentleman!

And, either we heal, now, as a team, or we will die as individuals." - Al Pacino