(12-03-2018 03:56 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:48 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:42 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:27 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:22 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Almost NO ONE is projecting him as first round pick right now.

So what is with all this will he sit out bowl game bullcrap?

He has had ONE really great breakout season and one fairly good season.

DeAngelo was not projected as a 1st rounder after his Jr year.

Took back to back 1,900 yard rushing years for him to move to first round.

Henderson has same issues in the eyes of NFL teams SIZE.

Well I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks who's right.

I was doing what i would hope he is also doing. Researching what the NFL scouts are saying about him.

Draft Stock

Henderson isn't big by NFL running back standards, and he isn't a super-shifty, make-you-miss-on-every-snap type of player. Also, he doesn't look like a sub 4.40 guy. All of those aspects of his game will work against him during the draft process.

However, he's certainly not a plodding runner, and he has tremendous vision and anticipatory skills to notice when blockers are split seconds away from creating a massive lane. Beyond that, he gets into top gear rapidly and is a no-nonsense, North-South runner in the open field.

And his contact balance is elite ... linebackers and especially cornerbacks are going to have a difficult time bringing Henderson down at the second and third levels of the defense even if they're under control and get both hands on him.

Right now, he seems like a late Day Two or early Day Three selection -- somewhere in Rounds 3-4 seem about right -- but he has at least 12 more games to sell himself to NFL teams as one of the premier home-run hitters available in the 2019 Draft.

What does he have to gain from coming back? What will he prove to scouts that he hasn't already?

Statistically speaking, it will be very difficult for him (or anyone) to put up these same numbers next year. And he puts himself at risk of injury.

I personally don't think he can improve his draft stock anymore from where it is today. He's had a monster year and he's shown what his strengths are (contact balance, vision, acceleration, break away ability, etc.). His size, speed and shiftiness won't change.

Several million dollars and a possible guaranteed money. At best right now he is projected late 2nd round and could be as low as third or fourth round. Longevity will be a question in the eyes of many teams due to his size and the fact he has never had to carry the load until this year.

Why do you think this will change next year? His weaknesses that were pointed out in the scouting report you copied and pasted won't change.

(12-03-2018 03:56 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:48 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:42 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:27 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:22 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Almost NO ONE is projecting him as first round pick right now.

So what is with all this will he sit out bowl game bullcrap?

He has had ONE really great breakout season and one fairly good season.

DeAngelo was not projected as a 1st rounder after his Jr year.

Took back to back 1,900 yard rushing years for him to move to first round.

Henderson has same issues in the eyes of NFL teams SIZE.

Well I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks who's right.

I was doing what i would hope he is also doing. Researching what the NFL scouts are saying about him.

Draft Stock

Henderson isn't big by NFL running back standards, and he isn't a super-shifty, make-you-miss-on-every-snap type of player. Also, he doesn't look like a sub 4.40 guy. All of those aspects of his game will work against him during the draft process.

However, he's certainly not a plodding runner, and he has tremendous vision and anticipatory skills to notice when blockers are split seconds away from creating a massive lane. Beyond that, he gets into top gear rapidly and is a no-nonsense, North-South runner in the open field.

And his contact balance is elite ... linebackers and especially cornerbacks are going to have a difficult time bringing Henderson down at the second and third levels of the defense even if they're under control and get both hands on him.

Right now, he seems like a late Day Two or early Day Three selection -- somewhere in Rounds 3-4 seem about right -- but he has at least 12 more games to sell himself to NFL teams as one of the premier home-run hitters available in the 2019 Draft.

What does he have to gain from coming back? What will he prove to scouts that he hasn't already?

Statistically speaking, it will be very difficult for him (or anyone) to put up these same numbers next year. And he puts himself at risk of injury.

I personally don't think he can improve his draft stock anymore from where it is today. He's had a monster year and he's shown what his strengths are (contact balance, vision, acceleration, break away ability, etc.). His size, speed and shiftiness won't change.

Several million dollars and possibly four years of guaranteed money. At best right now he is projected late 2nd round and could be as low as third or fourth round. Longevity will be a question in the eyes of many teams due to his size and the fact he has never had to carry the load until this year.

You don’t know what you are talking about because most running backs are selected in 2nd rd or later in the Draft. Very few elite RBs are selected in the 1st round for the past several years. If Henderson is projected in 2nd then he should go. Most NFL teams have a high priority on other positions 1st rather than RBs unless they are elite of the elites and still then there’s questions about; that’s why there’s discussion that while Saquon Barkley has been good for the Giants, would it have been better for them to have taken a QB in the 1st to eventually replace Eli Manning


2018 - 20 RBs taken in the draft, only 3 taken in the 1st and the last two were late 1st rounders

2017 - 30 RBs taken in the draft, only 2 in the 1st

2016 - 23 RBs taken in the draft, only 1 in the 1st

2015 - 22 RBs taken in the draft, only 2 in the first

2014 - 22 RBs taken in the draft, only 1 in the 1st

2013 - 26 RBs taken in the draft, only 1 in the 1st

I think he goes between rounds 2-4. If he kills it in the combine maybe high second round.
I’d go regardless.

He’s gone because:

A high value for NFL teams is that Henderson can catch the ball too

Essentially, a running back’s real value comes in the passing game. This shift in philosophy away from ground-and-pound towards high-powered passing attacks has led to a resulting change in the skillset necessary of a running back in today’s NFL, and it is showing in the top players at the position.

(12-03-2018 03:42 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:27 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:22 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 10:04 AM)tiger ron Wrote:  Do you think he will play in the Bowl game??

Almost NO ONE is projecting him as first round pick right now.

So what is with all this will he sit out bowl game bullcrap?

He has had ONE really great breakout season and one fairly good season.

DeAngelo was not projected as a 1st rounder after his Jr year.

Took back to back 1,900 yard rushing years for him to move to first round.

Henderson has same issues in the eyes of NFL teams SIZE.

Well I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks who's right.

I was doing what i would hope he is also doing. Researching what the NFL scouts are saying about him.

Draft Stock

"Henderson isn't big by NFL running back standards, and he isn't a super-shifty, make-you-miss-on-every-snap type of player. Also, he doesn't look like a sub 4.40 guy. All of those aspects of his game will work against him during the draft process.

However, he's certainly not a plodding runner, and he has tremendous vision and anticipatory skills to notice when blockers are split seconds away from creating a massive lane. Beyond that, he gets into top gear rapidly and is a no-nonsense, North-South runner in the open field.

And his contact balance is elite ... linebackers and especially cornerbacks are going to have a difficult time bringing Henderson down at the second and third levels of the defense even if they're under control and get both hands on him.

Right now, he seems like a late Day Two or early Day Three selection -- somewhere in Rounds 3-4 seem about right -- but he has at least 12 more games to sell himself to NFL teams as one of the premier home-run hitters available in the 2019 Draft."


One or even two good college seasons do not collate into a successful NFL career. Archie Griffin is only player to win back to back Heismans but he never had a season where he broke 700 yards rushing or where he averaged 50 yards per game.

The scouting report is from before this season. It's useless.

(12-03-2018 09:34 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:42 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:27 PM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 03:22 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2018 10:04 AM)tiger ron Wrote:  Do you think he will play in the Bowl game??

Almost NO ONE is projecting him as first round pick right now.

So what is with all this will he sit out bowl game bullcrap?

He has had ONE really great breakout season and one fairly good season.

DeAngelo was not projected as a 1st rounder after his Jr year.

Took back to back 1,900 yard rushing years for him to move to first round.

Henderson has same issues in the eyes of NFL teams SIZE.

Well I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks who's right.

I was doing what i would hope he is also doing. Researching what the NFL scouts are saying about him.

Draft Stock

"Henderson isn't big by NFL running back standards, and he isn't a super-shifty, make-you-miss-on-every-snap type of player. Also, he doesn't look like a sub 4.40 guy. All of those aspects of his game will work against him during the draft process.

However, he's certainly not a plodding runner, and he has tremendous vision and anticipatory skills to notice when blockers are split seconds away from creating a massive lane. Beyond that, he gets into top gear rapidly and is a no-nonsense, North-South runner in the open field.

And his contact balance is elite ... linebackers and especially cornerbacks are going to have a difficult time bringing Henderson down at the second and third levels of the defense even if they're under control and get both hands on him.

Right now, he seems like a late Day Two or early Day Three selection -- somewhere in Rounds 3-4 seem about right -- but he has at least 12 more games to sell himself to NFL teams as one of the premier home-run hitters available in the 2019 Draft."


One or even two good college seasons do not collate into a successful NFL career. Archie Griffin is only player to win back to back Heismans but he never had a season where he broke 700 yards rushing or where he averaged 50 yards per game.

The scouting report is from before this season. It's useless.

^^This^^

He’s gone and good for him! We have more good backs. We will be fine.

Good luck DH and thank you!!

The nfl drafts packages. By that I mean that DH will be drafted only after every player who can do what he does-and is also bigger-is taken.

It’s the same as we saw with Genard Avery. If he had been 2 inches taller he’d have gone much sooner.

I haven't been around much lately. Do we still have the one loser fan who thinks he isn't that good?

in the ucf game

twice the ucf players had the angle on him and could not catch him

he is really good at making a move at top speed

His ability to explode even when it seems he is already at top speed impresses me. There is nothing at the combine that equates to that though.

He cuts from horizontal to vertical, back to horizontal, exploiting holes at the line in the Defense, and hits 6th gear faster than any back at Memphis I've ever seen. Maybe it's the superior Offensive Line, but he's also facing far superior Defensive Lines than DeAngelo did. AAC ain't the old CUSA. They're in the same conversation as the two best backs in Memphis history.

It's been a blessing to be a part of the experience with both of them. So much fun!

Two different backs. Two great backs. I hope DH has as good and NFL career as DW. That said, I sure wish he would come back for one more run with the Tigers.

(12-04-2018 10:15 PM)Keeper Wrote:  Two different backs. Two great backs. I hope DH has as good and NFL career as DW. That said, I sure wish he would come back for one more run with the Tigers.

I really doubt that he will have the longevity that DH experienced. We were all so frustrated with the Panthers for not making him the feature back, but because of all those shared carries he had a lot more years and a lot less injuries.

Nothing to gain by coming back, except possible injury. He finished at over 8 YPC. That stock is as high as it's getting.

I hope he plays enough in the bowl to get a win - for himself and for us. But I understand if he sits out.

Yep