(10-14-2018 03:05 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  San Diego State should be in the top 25.

Why?

What good wins do they have? Arizona State is 3-3, Air Force, who you tout, is 2-4, Boise has 2 losses, and EMU is no good.

I like the SDSU program, but they haven't beaten anyone worth hanging a hat on. Yeah, I know USF hasn't either.

(10-14-2018 02:59 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 02:19 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 02:13 PM)AppinVA Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 02:10 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Another thread that’s turning about UCF and AAC. It’s getting old.

Okay. Let me help you out with that. #RankAppState

Has a Sun Belt school ever been ranked?

You guys gave Penn State a scary start of the season. AppState deserved that win.

Once - Troy was #25 for a week.

And that was only two seasons ago.

(10-14-2018 02:19 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 02:13 PM)AppinVA Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 02:10 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Another thread that’s turning about UCF and AAC. It’s getting old.

Okay. Let me help you out with that. #RankAppState

Has a Sun Belt school ever been ranked?

You guys gave Penn State a scary start of the season. AppState deserved that win.

What dback said. Hopefully when we get there, our stay is more permanent.

At this point it looks like the SEC only gets one team in...

UGa Fla is an eliminator, no questions.
Bama's OOC is horrible. They need to win the division and subsequent CCG to get in so 13-0 or eliminated as long as everyone else holds serve.
LSU probably out if they lose another game.

Lets say the Big 12 winner has one loss (a BIG IF.... but if either UT or OU in all likely hood), I'd say 12-1 will be enough to slip in.

An OSU/Michigan one loss champion is probably in.

Clemson needs to run the table, or they need A LOT of help.

So if you ask me, it's ND followed by UCF in the drivers seat. That UGa loss kinda opens the table for a UCF to backdoor this thing and get a Cotton Bowl bid vs a 13-0 Bama with an Irish loss.

(10-14-2018 05:04 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  At this point it looks like the SEC only gets one team in...

UGa Fla is an eliminator, no questions.
Bama's OOC is horrible. They need to win the division and subsequent CCG to get in so 13-0 or eliminated as long as everyone else holds serve.
LSU probably out if they lose another game.

Lets say the Big 12 winner has one loss (a BIG IF.... but if either UT or OU in all likely hood), I'd say 12-1 will be enough to slip in.

An OSU/Michigan one loss champion is probably in.

Clemson needs to run the table, or they need A LOT of help.

So if you ask me, it's ND followed by UCF in the drivers seat. That UGa loss kinda opens the table for a UCF to backdoor this thing and get a Cotton Bowl bid vs a 13-0 Bama with an Irish loss.

Finally!!!!! Someone who is reasonably with no axe to grind. What a breath of fresh air, and a very astute observation may I add.

No clarity has yet to emerge.

There are some interesting rankings purely because there is nobody else to rank in that spot, particularly in the top 10.

We may have had chaos this week but the polls have been chaotic from the start of this year.

(10-14-2018 05:04 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  At this point it looks like the SEC only gets one team in...

UGa Fla is an eliminator, no questions.
Bama's OOC is horrible. They need to win the division and subsequent CCG to get in

If Alabama is unbeaten going in to the SEC title game and they lose to a Florida or Georgia with just one loss, then the SEC will have a good chance to get two in again, though they would need two of the B1G, ACC, Big 12, and Notre Dame to have two losses.

(10-14-2018 02:57 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 02:10 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Another thread that’s turning about UCF and AAC. It’s getting old.

Yeah the biggest story is probably LSU skyrocketing to top 5 after what they did to Georgia. Orgeron is killing it.

I thought that read Oregon at first. Which is also true.

(10-14-2018 03:47 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 03:05 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  San Diego State should be in the top 25.

Why?

What good wins do they have? Arizona State is 3-3, Air Force, who you tout, is 2-4, Boise has 2 losses, and EMU is no good.

I like the SDSU program, but they haven't beaten anyone worth hanging a hat on. Yeah, I know USF hasn't either.

Air Force is a better team than people think. Plus, the game have been delayed for lightning and when they got to play? It was raining hard. Boise State does have a winning record, and so does EMU. SDSU played tougher competition than USF have. Stanford is still a tough team to beat.

(10-14-2018 01:34 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The Big XII has its two flagships in the top 10 and a school that’s on an island in the top 15. But they’re dead, right?

They’re not 100% out but they also are not in control of their own destiny and need others to lose to have any real shot at the Playoff now that they all have one loss

Plus, UT and OU both still have to play WVU and they have games against ISU, Tech and OSU left and there is the title game so it’s very possible the B12 champ has at least two losses and is not in contention for the playoff

(10-14-2018 08:01 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 01:34 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The Big XII has its two flagships in the top 10 and a school that’s on an island in the top 15. But they’re dead, right?

They’re not 100% out but they also are not in control of their own destiny and need others to lose to have any real shot at the Playoff now that they all have one loss

Plus, UT and OU both still have to play WVU and they have games against ISU, Tech and OSU left and there is the title game so it’s very possible the B12 champ has at least two losses and is not in contention for the playoff

The odds of Alabama, Clemson, Ohio St. and Notre Dame all winning out is pretty small. So while they aren't in control of their own destiny, if UT, OU or WVU win out, they will be in the playoffs.

Here’s another scenario, one loss ND and one loss conference Champion UM? That’s a scenario where ND vaults over both Big 12 and UCF, but I don’t think ND can afford a late season loss.

(10-14-2018 06:48 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 05:04 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  At this point it looks like the SEC only gets one team in...

UGa Fla is an eliminator, no questions.
Bama's OOC is horrible. They need to win the division and subsequent CCG to get in

If Alabama is unbeaten going in to the SEC title game and they lose to a Florida or Georgia with just one loss, then the SEC will have a good chance to get two in again, though they would need two of the B1G, ACC, Big 12, and Notre Dame to have two losses.

Bama would be out over one loss CC UM and undefeated ND. I also think UCF gets in over Bama... why? Because nobody wants to see Bama back door another playoff berth.

(10-14-2018 03:47 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 03:05 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  San Diego State should be in the top 25.

Why?

What good wins do they have? Arizona State is 3-3, Air Force, who you tout, is 2-4, Boise has 2 losses, and EMU is no good.

I like the SDSU program, but they haven't beaten anyone worth hanging a hat on. Yeah, I know USF hasn't either.

EMU is 3-3 with wins over Purdue and Toledo. Their 3 losses are by 3, OT, & Triple OT (2 because of kicking) to teams currently undefeated in MAC/MWC play.

The Hurons aren’t a hat hanging win, but don’t mix them up with their “no good” teams of yesteryear. They’re a tough out for most teams.

(10-14-2018 09:16 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 06:48 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 05:04 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  At this point it looks like the SEC only gets one team in...

UGa Fla is an eliminator, no questions.
Bama's OOC is horrible. They need to win the division and subsequent CCG to get in

If Alabama is unbeaten going in to the SEC title game and they lose to a Florida or Georgia with just one loss, then the SEC will have a good chance to get two in again, though they would need two of the B1G, ACC, Big 12, and Notre Dame to have two losses.

Bama would be out over one loss CC UM and undefeated ND. I also think UCF gets in over Bama... why? Because nobody wants to see Bama back door another playoff berth.

I think you are fooling yourself.

(10-14-2018 10:21 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 09:16 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 06:48 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 05:04 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  At this point it looks like the SEC only gets one team in...

UGa Fla is an eliminator, no questions.
Bama's OOC is horrible. They need to win the division and subsequent CCG to get in

If Alabama is unbeaten going in to the SEC title game and they lose to a Florida or Georgia with just one loss, then the SEC will have a good chance to get two in again, though they would need two of the B1G, ACC, Big 12, and Notre Dame to have two losses.

Bama would be out over one loss CC UM and undefeated ND. I also think UCF gets in over Bama... why? Because nobody wants to see Bama back door another playoff berth.

I think you are fooling yourself.

It would have to be a bad loss in the SEC CCG, but yes absolutely I don't believe a one loss Bama that loses the SEC will be in over those other undefeated or one loss conference champs.

How ridiculous is it to give a school a defacto berth when they can't even win their conference every year? I think the human bias of the committee will take that into consideration.

(10-15-2018 07:51 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 10:21 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 09:16 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 06:48 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 05:04 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  At this point it looks like the SEC only gets one team in...

UGa Fla is an eliminator, no questions.
Bama's OOC is horrible. They need to win the division and subsequent CCG to get in

If Alabama is unbeaten going in to the SEC title game and they lose to a Florida or Georgia with just one loss, then the SEC will have a good chance to get two in again, though they would need two of the B1G, ACC, Big 12, and Notre Dame to have two losses.

Bama would be out over one loss CC UM and undefeated ND. I also think UCF gets in over Bama... why? Because nobody wants to see Bama back door another playoff berth.

I think you are fooling yourself.

It would have to be a bad loss in the SEC CCG, but yes absolutely I don't believe a one loss Bama that loses the SEC will be in over those other undefeated or one loss conference champs.

Regarding the teams you mention - IMO an Alabama with one loss and not SEC champs would get in over an unbeaten UCF for sure, would be 50-50 against a B1G champ Michigan, and would not get in over an unbeaten Notre Dame.

(10-14-2018 09:05 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  Here’s another scenario, one loss ND and one loss conference Champion UM? That’s a scenario where ND vaults over both Big 12 and UCF, but I don’t think ND can afford a late season loss.

the CFP committee has shown more of a recency bias than even the polls. Late losses hurt. Late big wins really help.

(10-14-2018 10:21 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 09:16 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 06:48 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 05:04 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  At this point it looks like the SEC only gets one team in...

UGa Fla is an eliminator, no questions.
Bama's OOC is horrible. They need to win the division and subsequent CCG to get in

If Alabama is unbeaten going in to the SEC title game and they lose to a Florida or Georgia with just one loss, then the SEC will have a good chance to get two in again, though they would need two of the B1G, ACC, Big 12, and Notre Dame to have two losses.

Bama would be out over one loss CC UM and undefeated ND. I also think UCF gets in over Bama... why? Because nobody wants to see Bama back door another playoff berth.

I think you are fooling yourself.

UCF will stay #8 to #10 in the polls and be even lower in the CFP rankings. Pollsters have a difficulty putting a noname team any higher than #8 to #10, especially with no wins over big names. Even if its a Duke, Kansas or Kentucky, they almost have to get to the end of the season to move up higher than that.

(10-14-2018 05:04 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  At this point it looks like the SEC only gets one team in...

UGa Fla is an eliminator, no questions.
Bama's OOC is horrible. They need to win the division and subsequent CCG to get in so 13-0 or eliminated as long as everyone else holds serve.
LSU probably out if they lose another game.

Lets say the Big 12 winner has one loss (a BIG IF.... but if either UT or OU in all likely hood), I'd say 12-1 will be enough to slip in.

An OSU/Michigan one loss champion is probably in.

Clemson needs to run the table, or they need A LOT of help.

So if you ask me, it's ND followed by UCF in the drivers seat. That UGa loss kinda opens the table for a UCF to backdoor this thing and get a Cotton Bowl bid vs a 13-0 Bama with an Irish loss.

There's no way the SEC doesn't get a team in the playoffs if their champ is undefeated or 1 loss.

That's one

Assuming tOSU is undefeated going into the Michigan game (cause as much as I hate to admit it, Wisconsin isn't beating either of them), the winner of that game is in.

That's two

If ND runs the table and ends up 12-0, they're in.

That's three.

Leaving the last seat at the table to the remaining 3 conferences. Clemson runs the table, they're in. If Clemson is a one loss champ then it depends on who wins the XII. If the Horns win out, I think they're in over a 1 loss Clemson. It would be close between a 1 loss OU and Clemson. Clemson would get in over WVU. Unless "it" hits the fan and both those conferences' champs lost more than one, the PAC is out.

If the scenario was the XII, PAC, and ACC ALL had two loss champs, I'd bet the farm that the SEC runner up would be in for the 4th spot.