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Old Blue · 09-24-2018 09:48 PM

I know I was as hard as anybody when it comes to berating BW. I'm willing to eat my share of crow. Please pluck the feathers though, if you would. But with that said, this was the kind of win that rivalry's are made of. And with 10 more games in this series to go..... What does everyone think? I'm not saying we would be their main rival. But VT fans are sure going to want to beat us badly, next time we meet!!!!

DaBigBlue · 09-24-2018 10:09 PM

I don't think so. While we all have friends, coworkers and family members who went to VaTech. They will not see us as being on the same level. There are no P5 and G5 rivalries I can think of. The in-state thing does make it fun and carries more interest.

Old Blue · 09-24-2018 10:50 PM

(09-24-2018 10:09 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote: I don't think so. While we all have friends, coworkers and family members who went to VaTech. They will not see us as being on the same level. There are no P5 and G5 rivalries I can think of. The in-state thing does make it fun and carries more interest.

No not right now, but after 10 games, who knows? That's a lot of games. Sure would be nice Rivalry= VCU in basketball and VT in football. Even if it's a minor one.Their fans will mark our return to their stadium....of that you can be sure. This loss to them stings.

Indiana Bones · 09-24-2018 10:51 PM

(09-24-2018 10:09 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote: I don't think so. While we all have friends, coworkers and family members who went to VaTech. They will not see us as being on the same level. There are no P5 and G5 rivalries I can think of. The in-state thing does make it fun and carries more interest.

cmett003 · 09-25-2018 08:12 AM

(09-24-2018 10:09 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote: I don't think so. While we all have friends, coworkers and family members who went to VaTech. They will not see us as being on the same level. There are no P5 and G5 rivalries I can think of. The in-state thing does make it fun and carries more interest.

There are not that many because in the past if a G5 team beat a P5 enough times they bumped up to the same conference or level like TCU did. Also you have to play a lot to let it bud into something and win. But a few that come to mind are Houston vs Texas schools, Colorado vs Colorado State, Utah vs BYU vs Utah State, TCU vs SMU, Nany vs Notre Dame.

Monarchblue · 09-25-2018 08:35 AM

(09-24-2018 10:51 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:
(09-24-2018 10:09 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote: I don't think so. While we all have friends, coworkers and family members who went to VaTech. They will not see us as being on the same level. There are no P5 and G5 rivalries I can think of. The in-state thing does make it fun and carries more interest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Carol...te_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMU–TCU_football_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy–Notre...ll_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisville...is_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keg_of_Nails

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auburn–Tul...ll_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_the_Rag

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Brothers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_Bowl_Classic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_War_(Utah_vs._BYU)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston–SM...ll_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston–Te...ll_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memphis–Ol...ll_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_S...ll_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice–Texas...ll_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_City_Rivalry

If you guys can develop a common history and can win your fair share then who knows?

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...es-history

I think NCSU's fan base certainly looks at ECU as a rival. Beating them in the Peach Bowl back in the day fueled it but we had already pissed them off way before that. UNC doesn't want to look at us as rivals but after kicking their teeth in 3 consecutive games they might hate losing to us as much as they do NCSU & Duke at this point. Either way, it's nice to have 3 game winning streaks over both of them right now.

Haha nice try. NCSU does not look at ECU as a rival, or at least won't ever admit it.

ODUODUODU · 09-25-2018 08:35 AM

It's not a rivalry, but next's years game will be huge. If they continue to struggle (post Beamer) and we can get better, watch out...

EDIT: I find myself now lurking on the Va Tech boards instead of JMU boards. I guess that's saying something...

Edit of Edit:
We are not Tech's Rival, that's UVa. We are just the instate team that just beat them. If they cancel our remaining games, we own them...

odu09 · 09-25-2018 08:45 AM

This feels the exact same as that Liberty fan asking us if we are rivals because they beat us. We gave him a resounding NO. I imagine that's how Tech fans feel today.

**ODUalum78** · 09-27-2018 10:14 AM

With respect to any rivalry with VT, at best it will be the same as ECU and NC State, as pointed out above.

Speaking of ECU:
Geographically and institutionally, ECU is potentially our best rival. That might have quickly come to fruition had we stayed in the same conference. The Pirates are otherwise way ahead of us in terms of tradition, visibility, and conference affiliation.

Liberty will certainly be a rival for awhile as it is the only other in-state at our G5 level. I say awhile, because with the resources available to it, Liberty's ceiling is almost unlimited.

JMU could and should be our best rival if they ever move up. Ultimately they must, as both JMU and NDSU have widened the gap between themselves and the rest of FCS, to the point of it being almost ridiculous.

odu09 · 09-27-2018 10:25 AM

(09-27-2018 10:14 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote: JMU could and should be our best rival if they ever move up. Ultimately they must, as both JMU and NDSU have widened the gap between them and the rest of FCS to the point it being almost ridiculous.

Just peek at their boards. They seem to be content beating up Elon and circlejerking about hosting espn gameday that one time. They seem to be under the impression they won't move unless a power conference or the aac calls.

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**bit_9** · 09-27-2018 10:52 AM

Meh. I doubt we see all 10 games played either but would be delighted. My boss doesn't think they'll all happen give the ACC network and changes to OOC games. But ya never know.

jumpshooter · 09-27-2018 11:42 AM

We'd have to split the next 10 games between us for it to be a rivalry.

B easy · 09-27-2018 11:43 AM

(09-25-2018 08:35 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:
(09-24-2018 10:51 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:
(09-24-2018 10:09 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote: I don't think so. While we all have friends, coworkers and family members who went to VaTech. They will not see us as being on the same level. There are no P5 and G5 rivalries I can think of. The in-state thing does make it fun and carries more interest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Carolina–NC_State_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMU–TCU_football_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy–Notre...ll_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisville...is_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Keg_of_Nails

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auburn–Tul...ll_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_the_Rag

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Brothers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_Bowl_Classic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_War_(Utah_vs._BYU)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston–SM...ll_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston–Te...ll_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memphis–Ol...ll_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_S...ll_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice–Texas...ll_rivalry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_City_Rivalry

If you guys can develop a common history and can win your fair share then who knows?

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...es-history

I think NCSU's fan base certainly looks at ECU as a rival. Beating them in the Peach Bowl back in the day fueled it but we had already pissed them off way before that. UNC doesn't want to look at us as rivals but after kicking their teeth in 3 consecutive games they might hate losing to us as much as they do NCSU & Duke at this point. Either way, it's nice to have 3 game winning streaks over both of them right now.

Haha nice try. NCSU does not look at ECU as a rival, or at least won't ever admit it.

I'm the only ECU grad in a family full of wolfpekkers and I can assure you that most puppy fans not only accept us as rivals but embrace it now. Moreover, in recent years I've never heard any of their fans try to minimize it as anything less than a rivalry. They may say that they have less to gain or it means more to us but they have no choice but to deal with the fact that we are their rivals. Go look on their board right now and see how their fans want to schedule us as a makeup game this year because they hate us and want to beat us so badly. They haven't tasted victory over us in over a decade now and it eats them up. We've pissed them off so many times now that they may want to beat us more than any other team just due to proximity and bragging rights. After all, we own the coveted 'victory barrell' and will never relinquish it.

[Image: 10-ecu-ncsu-barrel.jpg]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Carol...ory_Barrel

The hate has been established over a long time. We destroyed their goal posts in '86 or '87 and they stopped playing us. Then they were forced to play us in the '92 Peach Bowl when they finished 2nd in the ACC and we won giving us our only top 10 finish in school history. Then we beat #9 Miami in their stadium during Hurricane Floyd in '99 and tore their goal posts down again. Beating them again and again here lately has just rubbed salt in those wounds. Their last victory over us was when they upset #15 ECU in OT way back in 2008 right after we became the 1 and only C-USA program to beat 3 consecutive ranked programs (#21 Boise St, # 15 VT, & #8 WVU). Point is it takes time to develop.

Look back at how much hate there was for the 1983 meeting in the link below at the 4:24 mark.

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~~ODUDJ96~~ · 09-27-2018 05:53 PM

It’s not a rivalry because we’re not on their level yet - just like Liberty is not on ours. But they are going to want blood every time we play them. A game against us will have meaning to VT Nation going forward. We broke their heart and they will not forget it. Their crowd is going to be amped for the game next year.

Retroview1955 · 09-27-2018 07:33 PM

I don't think so. We need to focus Less on the VT game and hopefully our team is focused on ECU. Hopefully they can disect and exploit these weaknesses on the field just like they did Virginia Tech. I really hope this is the beginning of something really special for ODU football!

JJMonarch · 09-27-2018 08:38 PM

(09-27-2018 11:42 AM)jumpshooter Wrote: We'd have to split the next 10 games between us for it to be a rivalry.

If we are lucky enough to beat them next time we play, I guarantee it would be a rivalry ( unless they cancelled the rest of the games)

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