(09-19-2018 03:33 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 03:00 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Have there been any accusations leveled against [Kavanaugh] of this type other than this one?

No.

(09-19-2018 03:19 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  guys who are sexually aggressive with women tend not to be sexually aggressive one time and then stop. There's aways a pattern that develops. Think Bubba.

This, this, this. ^^^^

There is a range of possible behaviors — call it a spectrum, if you like — in this area. At one end of the spectrum is a guy like Bob Packwood who would forcibly kiss/embrace without being asked. At the other end of the spectrum (a different moral universe, to be sure) is a guy like Ted Bundy who would maim and kill. People like Harvey Weinstein are somewhere in between.

But all of them have this in common: they did not do it one time and then move on with their lives in a positive direction. They did it over and over and over again. The need to get their way with women was a huge part of their life and they couldn’t leave it alone after just one go-‘round.

And this guy was a dopey teen when this alleged incident didn't happen. Not some grown-asss man that would clearly know better, least one would think.


Teens do all kinds of stupid schit, anyone that's ever been a teen or raised one or two or more will know that. So, that leaves the 12 and under folks.

If, as she claimed in the WoPo story, she didn't tell ANYONE about the "attack" until 2012, how the hell were people talking about it at school in the days that follwed???

(09-19-2018 04:38 PM)WoodlandsOwl Wrote:  The State Attorney (Prosecutor) for Montgomery County Maryland is a Democrat. As the alleged victim was 15 years old at the time, there is no statute of limitation.

Her description of what happened arguably falls under Maryland Criminal Code, Title 3, Subtitle 3, Sections 3-311 or 3-312 as an attempted sexual offense in the first or second degree.

This State Attorney could initiate an investigation of Kavenaugh. If he does, its time Trump pulled the nomination and go to Plan B.

The alleged victim can't pinpoint a month much less a year of the alleged assault.
There is no way to know how old either of them were (assuming it actually took place).

We also now have two people (PJ and Judge) that the alleged victim has claimed were at the "party" both do not support her "memory."

(09-19-2018 05:11 PM)NIUFAN Wrote:  If, as she claimed in the WoPo story, she didn't tell ANYONE about the "attack" until 2012, how the hell were people talking about it at school in the days that follwed???

That contradiction is just another example of how the story is unraveling.

The alleged victim also said the assault happened over the summer so unless they were all attending summer school no way it was the talk of the school for days after.

(09-19-2018 05:11 PM)NIUFAN Wrote:  If, as she claimed in the WoPo story, she didn't tell ANYONE about the "attack" until 2012, how the hell were people talking about it at school in the days that follwed???

I read somewhere that her 2012 conversation about Kavanaugh (though she never mentioned him by name) came up not long after his name was mentioned in the news as possible supreme court material for a potential President Romney to consider.

(09-19-2018 05:14 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 04:38 PM)WoodlandsOwl Wrote:  The State Attorney (Prosecutor) for Montgomery County Maryland is a Democrat. As the alleged victim was 15 years old at the time, there is no statute of limitation.

Her description of what happened arguably falls under Maryland Criminal Code, Title 3, Subtitle 3, Sections 3-311 or 3-312 as an attempted sexual offense in the first or second degree.

This State Attorney could initiate an investigation of Kavenaugh. If he does, its time Trump pulled the nomination and go to Plan B.

The alleged victim can't pinpoint a month much less a year of the alleged assault.
There is no way to know how old either of them were.

We also now have two people (PJ and Judge) that the alleged victim has claimed were at the "party" both do not support her "memory."

You miss the point... you don't need to convict Kavenaugh. Probably cant convict him. But you have a Democrat State Prosecutor who can open an investigation of the alleged incident. The mere fact that there is an "open investigation" alone scares off at least two, maybe more Republican Senators. The Democrat plan is to stall the replacement until after the midterms where they may have the Senate.

(09-19-2018 04:10 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 04:01 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 03:46 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  Unfortunately, conservatives possess the shame gene and will never go that far.

Historically, that has definitely been true, IMHO.

But I believe it is going to become less and less true from now on. In fact, I think the Trump nomination was a critical first step away from the “shame gene” by the GOP, if not by “conservatives”, as such. We shall see if that process is repeated in the future, or not.

Agreed as it relates to Trump. It's why they hate him so much. He doesn't play the game. You know the game......we (dims) do outrageous stuff, make outrageous demands, say outrageous things, and you (conservatives) do nothing but bend over and grab your ankles.

When they can no longer prop up RBG's corpse to make everyone believe she's still breathing, I hope for the life of me that Trump serves up this one just so I can watch their heads explode.

Be interesting to see how they attempt to impugn her integrity.

Supposedly when Ginsburg is done, one way or another, she is the next one getting the nod. Wonder how thick the oppo binder on her can possibly be? I'll guess they'll try some kind of financial scandal angle, maybe when she was 16 YO, too... /shakes head

(09-19-2018 05:21 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 04:10 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 04:01 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 03:46 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  Unfortunately, conservatives possess the shame gene and will never go that far.

Historically, that has definitely been true, IMHO.

But I believe it is going to become less and less true from now on. In fact, I think the Trump nomination was a critical first step away from the “shame gene” by the GOP, if not by “conservatives”, as such. We shall see if that process is repeated in the future, or not.

Agreed as it relates to Trump. It's why they hate him so much. He doesn't play the game. You know the game......we (dims) do outrageous stuff, make outrageous demands, say outrageous things, and you (conservatives) do nothing but bend over and grab your ankles.

When they can no longer prop up RBG's corpse to make everyone believe she's still breathing, I hope for the life of me that Trump serves up this one just so I can watch their heads explode.

Be interesting to see how they attempt to impugn her integrity.

Supposedly when Ginsburg is done, one way or another, she is the next one getting the nod. Wonder how thick the oppo binder on her can possibly be? I'll guess they'll try some kind of financial scandal angle, maybe when she was 16 YO, too... /shakes head

Dims are lower life forms. Apologies to lower life forms the world over.

(09-19-2018 05:20 PM)WoodlandsOwl Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 05:14 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 04:38 PM)WoodlandsOwl Wrote:  The State Attorney (Prosecutor) for Montgomery County Maryland is a Democrat. As the alleged victim was 15 years old at the time, there is no statute of limitation.

Her description of what happened arguably falls under Maryland Criminal Code, Title 3, Subtitle 3, Sections 3-311 or 3-312 as an attempted sexual offense in the first or second degree.

This State Attorney could initiate an investigation of Kavenaugh. If he does, its time Trump pulled the nomination and go to Plan B.

The alleged victim can't pinpoint a month much less a year of the alleged assault.
There is no way to know how old either of them were.

We also now have two people (PJ and Judge) that the alleged victim has claimed were at the "party" both do not support her "memory."

You miss the point... you don't need to convict Kavenaugh. Probably cant convict him. But you have a Democrat State Prosecutor who can open an investigation of the alleged incident. The mere fact that there is an "open investigation" alone scares off at least two, maybe more Republican Senators. The Democrat plan is to stall the replacement until after the midterms where they may have the Senate.

Yes. This is all part of a stall plan trying to hold it up until after the midterms.

If the state prosecutor is an elected position, the Maryland State Prosecutor would be playing with fire opening up an investigation based on what's known. Not all of Maryland is Baltimore County.

(09-19-2018 04:38 PM)WoodlandsOwl Wrote:  The State Attorney (Prosecutor) for Montgomery County Maryland is a Democrat. As the alleged victim was 15 years old at the time, there is no statute of limitation.

Her description of what happened arguably falls under Maryland Criminal Code, Title 3, Subtitle 3, Sections 3-311 or 3-312 as an attempted sexual offense in the first or second degree.

This State Attorney could initiate an investigation of Kavenaugh. If he does, its time Trump pulled the nomination and go to Plan B.

That oughta scare you as much as it should scare anyone.

Some disgruntled old classmate can just arbitrarily accuse you of sexual misconduct of some sort and totally ruin your life. Pick you out of an old yearbook from the attic and just make baseless accusations based on ZERO evidence. You may not even have known this person in HS, so what? They have to be believed.

This is sheer insanity.

Why would any competent normal person agree to be a nominee and be subjected to this sort of ordeal?

(09-19-2018 05:20 PM)WoodlandsOwl Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 05:14 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 04:38 PM)WoodlandsOwl Wrote:  The State Attorney (Prosecutor) for Montgomery County Maryland is a Democrat. As the alleged victim was 15 years old at the time, there is no statute of limitation.

Her description of what happened arguably falls under Maryland Criminal Code, Title 3, Subtitle 3, Sections 3-311 or 3-312 as an attempted sexual offense in the first or second degree.

This State Attorney could initiate an investigation of Kavenaugh. If he does, its time Trump pulled the nomination and go to Plan B.

The alleged victim can't pinpoint a month much less a year of the alleged assault.
There is no way to know how old either of them were.

We also now have two people (PJ and Judge) that the alleged victim has claimed were at the "party" both do not support her "memory."

You miss the point... you don't need to convict Kavenaugh. Probably cant convict him. But you have a Democrat State Prosecutor who can open an investigation of the alleged incident. The mere fact that there is an "open investigation" alone scares off at least two, maybe more Republican Senators. The Democrat plan is to stall the replacement until after the midterms where they may have the Senate.

That would be about as low-ball as I can even imagine the dims stooping to, and they've certainly done enough lowball schit in the past.

So much for the "They go low, we go high" false narrative.

(09-19-2018 05:27 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 05:20 PM)WoodlandsOwl Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 05:14 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 04:38 PM)WoodlandsOwl Wrote:  The State Attorney (Prosecutor) for Montgomery County Maryland is a Democrat. As the alleged victim was 15 years old at the time, there is no statute of limitation.

Her description of what happened arguably falls under Maryland Criminal Code, Title 3, Subtitle 3, Sections 3-311 or 3-312 as an attempted sexual offense in the first or second degree.

This State Attorney could initiate an investigation of Kavenaugh. If he does, its time Trump pulled the nomination and go to Plan B.

The alleged victim can't pinpoint a month much less a year of the alleged assault.
There is no way to know how old either of them were.

We also now have two people (PJ and Judge) that the alleged victim has claimed were at the "party" both do not support her "memory."

You miss the point... you don't need to convict Kavenaugh. Probably cant convict him. But you have a Democrat State Prosecutor who can open an investigation of the alleged incident. The mere fact that there is an "open investigation" alone scares off at least two, maybe more Republican Senators. The Democrat plan is to stall the replacement until after the midterms where they may have the Senate.

Yes. This is all part of a stall plan trying to hold it up until after the midterms.

If the state prosecutor is an elected position, the Maryland State Prosecutor would be playing with fire opening up an investigation based on what's known. Not all of Maryland is Baltimore County.

But Montgomery County is solid Blue. He defeated his Republican challenger last time by 40 points. And McCarthy is up for reelection this year.

(09-19-2018 05:20 PM)WoodlandsOwl Wrote:  you have a Democrat State Prosecutor who can open an investigation of the alleged incident. The mere fact that there is an "open investigation" alone scares off at least two, maybe more Republican Senators.

In other circumstances, that might be true. But in this case — barring some new and compelling evidence that is extremely incriminating to Kavanaugh — I think the political motive behind this accusation is just a little too obvious, a little too gross, to get any GOP support. Even people like Flake and Corker — who hate Trump with a passion and would cheerfully inflict maximum political damage against him, if they saw the slightest opportunity — are saying that she either shows up Monday and goes under oath, or else the Committee proceeds with the vote on the nomination. Non-Democrats are simply not accepting this accusation at face value. They’re just not.

Quote:The Democrat plan is to stall the replacement until after the midterms where they may have the Senate.

Let’s compare notes in a couple of weeks and see if the plan worked out.

(09-19-2018 03:55 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 03:44 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 03:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 02:42 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 02:39 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  She deleted the tweet and posted on facebook that she will no longer speak to the media, so yea, your explanation sounds reasonable like a half-ass turd nugget.

Lunatics need to be sued

Bingo! This is the only pathway to cleaning up this behavior. They should sue for slander for interviews given and liable for all posts, tweets, and articles written citing the source. Punitive damages should be sought with the proceeds going to charities or to a defense slush fund for conservatives lied about by liberals.

I might add this would also be the best pathway to revealing the interested parties behind the liars. They would pay for the defense of their plants and then the right could expose the real power behind the lies. This is a crucial element if the swamp is to be drained. We not only need to get rid of the swamp critters, but the illegal traffickers in exotic animals that put them there!

Soros is paying her lawyer. Nuff said.

Am I surprised? Not at all. Nuff said? Not really. When any person with strong ties abroad (dual citizenship, business ventures, etc) can be said to have self interest that supersedes his loyalty to the country of his citizenship, and then he interferes with Supreme Court nominations, or the efficacy of the duly elected President of the United States, he should be tried for sedition, and if he is found to be backing lies intended to interfere with the governance and conduct of the nation, he should be stripped of his citizenship, found guilty of felonies against the Citizens of the United States, and if abroad extradited and imprisoned.

Then I would say it's enough!

You've got to go for the throat with those who seek to undermine our way of life!

There were likely some campaign law violations in his donations to HRC. I think I remember reading about some allegations. Investigate and deport him back to Hungary.

(09-19-2018 05:42 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 05:20 PM)WoodlandsOwl Wrote:  you have a Democrat State Prosecutor who can open an investigation of the alleged incident. The mere fact that there is an "open investigation" alone scares off at least two, maybe more Republican Senators.

In other circumstances, that might be true. But in this case — barring some new and compelling evidence that is extremely incriminating to Kavanaugh — I think the political motive behind this accusation is just a little too obvious, a little too gross, to get any GOP support. Even people like Flake and Corker — who hate Trump with a passion and would cheerfully inflict maximum political damage against him, if they saw the slightest opportunity — are saying that she either shows up Monday and goes under oath, or else the Committee proceeds with the vote on the nomination. Non-Democrats are simply not accepting this accusation at face value. They’re just not.

Quote:The Democrat plan is to stall the replacement until after the midterms where they may have the Senate.

Let’s compare notes in a couple of weeks and see if the plan worked out.

I'm ready to see the cork sockers go nuclear on this one. The timing is perfect, right before the midterms to get the base madder than wet hornets. Win a battle but lose the war while they're at it.

(09-19-2018 05:35 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Why would any competent normal person agree to be a nominee and be subjected to this sort of ordeal?

Getting conservatives to ask themselves that question, and to answer it in the negative, is really what’s behind this whole farce. Sure, they’re hoping to get lucky and derail Kavanaugh if they possibly can. But even more than that, the idea is to get all the potential Kavanaughs of the future to observe this drama and realize No matter how good you are, no matter how highly recommended you are, no matter what your academic record or professional career has been like, we will trash your reputation and inflict maximum humiliation on you and your family if you threaten our agenda. We will stop at nothing.

(09-19-2018 05:31 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 04:38 PM)WoodlandsOwl Wrote:  The State Attorney (Prosecutor) for Montgomery County Maryland is a Democrat. As the alleged victim was 15 years old at the time, there is no statute of limitation.

Her description of what happened arguably falls under Maryland Criminal Code, Title 3, Subtitle 3, Sections 3-311 or 3-312 as an attempted sexual offense in the first or second degree.

This State Attorney could initiate an investigation of Kavenaugh. If he does, its time Trump pulled the nomination and go to Plan B.

That oughta scare you as much as it should scare anyone.

Some disgruntled old classmate can just arbitrarily accuse you of sexual misconduct of some sort and totally ruin your life. Pick you out of an old yearbook from the attic and just make baseless accusations based on ZERO evidence. You may not even have known this person in HS, so what? They have to be believed.

This is sheer insanity.

Remember "Jackie"???

"The woman whose harrowing account of being gang-raped at the University of Virginia was the centerpiece of a now-discredited Rolling Stone magazine article testified in a deposition heard by the public for the first time on Monday that the story was what she believed “to be true at the time”.

A video deposition of the woman identified in the article only as “Jackie” was played for jurors Monday in the defamation trial against Rolling Stone magazine for the 2014 article A Rape on Campus by Sabrina Rubin Erdely. University of Virginia administrator Nicole Eramo is seeking $7.5m from the magazine, claiming she was cast as the story’s “chief villain”. A police investigation later found no evidence to back up Jackie’s claims.

“Jackie” said she has trouble remembering details of her assault and the aftermath because she has post-traumatic stress disorder. When asked by an attorney if she stands by the truth of her account, Jackie responded: “I stand by the account I gave to Rolling Stone. I believed it to be true at the time.”

Jackie repeatedly answered “I don’t know” or “I can’t remember” when asked about her meetings with police, discussions with Eramo and specific things she told Rolling Stone. Tom Clare, an attorney for Eramo, pressed Jackie to explain why she told Eramo that she was forced to perform oral sex on several men while she told Rolling Stone she was gang-raped at a Phi Kappa Psi fraternity house.

“My comfort level was different and I don’t remember exactly what I told Dean Eramo or Rolling Stone,” Jackie said."

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/o...-testifies

(09-19-2018 03:07 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 03:03 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 02:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 02:48 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 02:42 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  Honest question here. Did Christine ever tell how she found herself in an upstairs bedroom with 2 drunk boys?

Honest question here. So if she WAS attacked, it was her fault then?

No, but if she was drunk as well---her memory of the events or how they transpired might be faulty. I mean--no means no. For all we know---he made a clumsy romantic pass that she found frightening and she said no. By her own admission, he made no attempt to stop her from leaving the room and made no further attempt to force himself on her. It was 40 years ago and she made no attempt to go to law enforcement, her parents, his parents, or school officials. You dont think her sobriety is worth knowing? Can she prove she was sober at the time? Why cant she name a date on which this life altering event took place? Frankly, litigating something 35-40 years after it went unreported is ripe with issues.

Well she clearly remembers she had exactly one beer.

Gonna have to revert to an old law enforcement joke on that one

"Just how big a beer was that one you had?"

(09-19-2018 06:22 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 05:42 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 05:20 PM)WoodlandsOwl Wrote:  you have a Democrat State Prosecutor who can open an investigation of the alleged incident. The mere fact that there is an "open investigation" alone scares off at least two, maybe more Republican Senators.

In other circumstances, that might be true. But in this case — barring some new and compelling evidence that is extremely incriminating to Kavanaugh — I think the political motive behind this accusation is just a little too obvious, a little too gross, to get any GOP support. Even people like Flake and Corker — who hate Trump with a passion and would cheerfully inflict maximum political damage against him, if they saw the slightest opportunity — are saying that she either shows up Monday and goes under oath, or else the Committee proceeds with the vote on the nomination. Non-Democrats are simply not accepting this accusation at face value. They’re just not.

Quote:The Democrat plan is to stall the replacement until after the midterms where they may have the Senate.

Let’s compare notes in a couple of weeks and see if the plan worked out.

I'm ready to see the cork sockers go nuclear on this one. The timing is perfect, right before the midterms to get the base madder than wet hornets. Win a battle but lose the war while they're at it.

I can't help myself at this point.....

the dippos think this....



when it's really this...