A lot has been made about Harbaugh’s 9-9 posting over his last 18 games or Michigan’s 17 game road losing streak at ranked teams since 2006.

But how does Michigan stack up against its peers over 11 seasons (starting 2008)?

1) Ohio State 112
2) Wisconsin 101
3) Michigan State 93
4) Penn State 89
5) Nebraska 85
6) Iowa 82
7) Northwestern 77
8) Michigan 74

Michigan is a bottom half B1G program under the 11-, 12-, & 14-team B1G alignments over 11 years.

Michigan is 1-9 against Brutus and 2-8 against Sparty over this span. For context, Michigan St had 8 wins between 1970-2007.

I think Texas is giving them a run for their money. 53-48 since their last BCS run. But UT was a power in the 00s, so theres that.

That being said, its hard to be a blue blood if you havent won a conference championship in 14 seasons, like Michigan. People currently attending UM werent old enough to remember seeing a UM B1G championship

(09-08-2018 08:50 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  A lot has been made about Harbaugh’s 9-9 posting over his last 18 games or Michigan’s 17 game road losing streak at ranked teams since 2006.

But how does Michigan stack up against its peers over 11 seasons (starting 2008)?

1) Ohio State 112
2) Wisconsin 101
3) Michigan State 93
4) Penn State 89
5) Nebraska 85
6) Iowa 82
7) Northwestern 77
8) Michigan 74

Michigan is a bottom half B1G program under the 11-, 12-, & 14-team B1G alignments over 11 years.

Michigan is 1-9 against Brutus and 2-8 against Sparty over this span. For context, Michigan St had 8 wins between 1970-2007.

How long before they aren't a blueblood? About 60 minutes every Saturday in the Fall.

(09-08-2018 09:50 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-08-2018 08:50 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  A lot has been made about Harbaugh’s 9-9 posting over his last 18 games or Michigan’s 17 game road losing streak at ranked teams since 2006.

But how does Michigan stack up against its peers over 11 seasons (starting 2008)?

1) Ohio State 112
2) Wisconsin 101
3) Michigan State 93
4) Penn State 89
5) Nebraska 85
6) Iowa 82
7) Northwestern 77
8) Michigan 74

Michigan is a bottom half B1G program under the 11-, 12-, & 14-team B1G alignments over 11 years.

Michigan is 1-9 against Brutus and 2-8 against Sparty over this span. For context, Michigan St had 8 wins between 1970-2007.

How long before they aren't a blueblood? About 60 minutes every Saturday in the Fall.

LOL, you give them far too much credit. It usually doesnt take UM 60 minutes to show that

Michigan is a permanent blue blood.

(09-08-2018 11:31 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Michigan is a permanent blue blood.

Depends on how many teams are blue bloods. Over Miami, Penn State, Florida State, Clemson, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, USC, Nebraska? Nope.

Yes, the last 20 years matter. Michigan has exactly 1 untied conference championship. They have 1 national championship in the last 60 years.

I've got them on TV right now and they are looking quite dominant up 28-0 vs. WMU.

Michigan is still 1/2 of the biggest rivalry in college football. That I think will always keep them in the game as a blueblood.

I'd say Penn State might have more of a threat since now Rutgers and Maryland have been added to the B1G. They've started the process of downsizing Beaver Stadium.

(09-08-2018 08:50 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  A lot has been made about Harbaugh’s 9-9 posting over his last 18 games or Michigan’s 17 game road losing streak at ranked teams since 2006.

But how does Michigan stack up against its peers over 11 seasons (starting 2008)?

1) Ohio State 112
2) Wisconsin 101
3) Michigan State 93
4) Penn State 89
5) Nebraska 85
6) Iowa 82
7) Northwestern 77
8) Michigan 74

Michigan is a bottom half B1G program under the 11-, 12-, & 14-team B1G alignments over 11 years.

Michigan is 1-9 against Brutus and 2-8 against Sparty over this span. For context, Michigan St had 8 wins between 1970-2007.

You kind of cherry-picked the era there.
To me, 2008-2014 is a totally different University. The school overreacted to losing to AppState and Oregon and wanted to go spread offense even though no one would ever go up to the cold to play there. Look how bad Penn State played against AppState last week and they weren't even against 3 time champs. Many teams, especially OSU would have lost to them in 2007.

But I agree that the Harbaugh era has been underwhelming but at least it isn't Rich Rod nonsense.

^ Ohio St played in the National Championship game in 2007. They weren’t losing to Appalachian St.

2008 was Year 1 of post-Lloyd Carr.

(09-08-2018 08:50 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  A lot has been made about Harbaugh’s 9-9 posting over his last 18 games or Michigan’s 17 game road losing streak at ranked teams since 2006.

But how does Michigan stack up against its peers over 11 seasons (starting 2008)?

1) Ohio State 112
2) Wisconsin 101
3) Michigan State 93
4) Penn State 89
5) Nebraska 85
6) Iowa 82
7) Northwestern 77
8) Michigan 74

Michigan is a bottom half B1G program under the 11-, 12-, & 14-team B1G alignments over 11 years.

Michigan is 1-9 against Brutus and 2-8 against Sparty over this span. For context, Michigan St had 8 wins between 1970-2007.

Michigan always wins the National Championship and Heisman Trophy's that are given away every year in September.....Oh Wait... I forgot...that only occurs in the minds of the wolverines. It must have something to do with going to school in Ann Arbor (she's a whore) or being a Walmart Wolverine.

I understand my Spartan team does ok now. I understand that it is most definitely not our history. We are no blue blood and most likely never will be. But we Spartans are willing to admit our failures. Wolverines never make mistakes and think they are Blue Bloods forever whether or not thier current reality suggests that or not.

GO GREEN!
GO WHITE!
GO STATE!

BEAT MICHIGAN!

Miami have done squat much longer than Michigan. Since their last NC title. They nearly lost at home to both Florida A&M and Bethune-Cookman.
Some blue bloods have also lost to FCS teams. Florida, Auburn, Arkansas, South Carolina, Kansas, Iowa, Colorado, California, Stanford, Etc.

(09-08-2018 11:46 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-08-2018 11:31 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Michigan is a permanent blue blood.

Depends on how many teams are blue bloods. Over Miami, Penn State, Florida State, Clemson, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, USC, Nebraska? Nope.

Yes, the last 20 years matter. Michigan has exactly 1 untied conference championship. They have 1 national championship in the last 60 years.

Michigan is more valuable than most of the teams even on that elite list.

Blue as blu gets, and i don't like them.

As long as 100,000 people continue show up for their games they'll be a blue blood.

(09-08-2018 12:09 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Michigan is still 1/2 of the biggest rivalry in college football. That I think will always keep them in the game as a blueblood.

I'd say Penn State might have more of a threat since now Rutgers and Maryland have been added to the B1G. They've started the process of downsizing Beaver Stadium.

Rutgers and Maryland are not threats to Penn State. If anything, both are just two easy wins in the division. Can an occasional upset happens? Of course but I wouldn’t go as far as calling Rutgers and Maryland threats.

As for a Beaver Stadium downsizing, it’s not for the reason you’re trying to make it sound. The stadium is losing 3k seats after the remodeling that will start in perhaps 5 years. It’ll have more suites and it’ll have chair back seats. It’ll go from second to third largest stadium in the nation.

http://www.mcall.com/sports/college/psu/...story.html

Michigan is still a blue blood. Same for Texas and Notre Dame. I’d say Nebraska lost its standing as well as Tennessee. But if another decade of mediocrity still follows Michigan, Texas (at least they have the 00s to brag about) and Notre Dame, they’ll likely drop since Gen Z, Millennials and younger Gen Xers won’t remember seeing them winning on a constant basis, especially Michigan.

Michigan football could be the equivalent of UCLA basketball. The history, records and championships are on the record books but haven’t accomplished much recently.

(09-08-2018 01:25 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Michigan football could be the equivalent of UCLA basketball.

Except that UCLA basketball has 9 more national championships than Michigan football.

(09-08-2018 02:28 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-08-2018 01:25 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Michigan football could be the equivalent of UCLA basketball.

Except that UCLA basketball has 9 more national championships than Michigan football.

The point still remains the same. Michigan football with all its winning record from yesteryear runs the risk of being the equivalent of UCLA basketball. A storied program that has seen better years and it’s fighting for relevance.

Once you reach that level you never really lose it.

It’s fun to poke fun at ND and Texas but they remain “bluebloods” by most people’s definition.

(09-08-2018 03:12 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(09-08-2018 02:28 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-08-2018 01:25 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Michigan football could be the equivalent of UCLA basketball.

Except that UCLA basketball has 9 more national championships than Michigan football.

The point still remains the same. Michigan football with all its winning record from yesteryear runs the risk of being the equivalent of UCLA basketball. A storied program that has seen better years and it’s fighting for relevance.

If you limit it like that... but with Michigan having only 2 titles (and one of those in the 1940s) maybe the better comparison is to a basketball team that has only two long-ago titles, like Oklahoma State or San Francisco.