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SouthLink02 Wrote:Since I was brought up near Baton Rouge my entire childhood AND went to games before they started winning the National Titles, I can say that College Baseball wasn't that big before Bertman came around. The first baseball games I went to was in 1984 and I basically went to every game (barring a few OOC games) all the way up to 1999-2000. I think that once you have a successful team and win a National Title, you get the reputation as being a Top-Tier team.
you are correct sir. I remember going to LSU-State games at Alex Box and the State fans always outnumbered the Tiger fans. Hell we used to sit in the box seats behind home plate, then Skip changed all of that.
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msudawgs64 Wrote:
SouthLink02 Wrote:Since I was brought up near Baton Rouge my entire childhood AND went to games before they started winning the National Titles, I can say that College Baseball wasn't that big before Bertman came around. The first baseball games I went to was in 1984 and I basically went to every game (barring a few OOC games) all the way up to 1999-2000. I think that once you have a successful team and win a National Title, you get the reputation as being a Top-Tier team.
you are correct sir. I remember going to LSU-State games at Alex Box and the State fans always outnumbered the Tiger fans. Hell we used to sit in the box seats behind home plate, then Skip changed all of that.
Yup. It was funny as Ben McDonald was on ESPN2 during the super regionals talking about how empty Alex Box was during the first year of his tenure (1988 I think...) compared to now...
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Hey SouthLink, try this link:

<a href='http://forums.hornfans.com/php/wwwthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=baseball&Number=1775464&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=' target='_blank'>http://forums.hornfans.com/php/wwwthreads/...sb=5&o=0&fpart=</a>

I am pretty sure you can do some serious debating with these guys. They are showing LSU ZERO respect!!!
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Off I go. My Nickname will be LSUWneil
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SouthLink02 Wrote:Off I go. My Nickname will be LSUWneil
This will be entertaining!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![Image: bump.gif][Image: bump.gif][Image: bump.gif][Image: bump.gif][Image: bump.gif][Image: bump.gif]
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Dammit! They locked the thread!
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SouthLink02 Wrote:Dammit! They locked the thread!
Don't be scared.........start a new one!!!!!!!! 04-cheers 04-cheers 03-lol
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OregonGamecock Wrote:
SouthLink02 Wrote:Dammit! They locked the thread!
Don't be scared.........start a new one!!!!!!!! 04-cheers 04-cheers 03-lol
This message board sucks. Not all new threads go to the top. Cant see the last poster. ugh, what a joke
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Yes, all new posts go to the top......I just post really quick! :D
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6 posts into it and I get this

You have been banned from making further posts on the Baseball board. The reason for this:

Starting a smack thread on the baseball board despite a clear no tolerance statement from Orangeblood.
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Those idiots attack LSU from every standpoint then get all offended when others fight back. Morons
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I hope at least you posted a link to secbbs.com S-link, before you were banned, that is 03-wink
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Galactus Wrote:However, if you think the whole nation sits on the edge of their seat following COLLEGE baseball, as they do in college football or men's basketball, that's crazy. That is evidence of "very little perspective."
Who on this thread said it does?
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I don't know, Drake......You might ask Cocky Road......he's the guy that started that discussion and is who I was responding to. Also, while you're at it, ask him who said baseball wasn't important and that it wasn't a "thinking" sport.......also point out where I or anyone criticized his interests or hobbies.

Nowhere in this thread did anyone criticize the game of BASEBALL. I said nothing about Major League Baseball, which is an entirely different subject. In fact, no one criticized COLLEGE baseball.....My point in stating that the nation isn't sitting "on the edge of its seat" as a whole had absolutely nothing to do with whether anybody said that or not. I don't care if they did. What difference does that make? It's not related to my point. The point I'm trying to make is that to schools like Texas and Stanford, who have been hugely successful in all of the major and minor sports, another national title could never mean to them what it would mean to US. To them, college baseball is great.......but it's just another sport they win at. Quite honestly, I think USC fans are simply starved for success and championships, and their incredible support (which I think is great, BTW) for college baseball, is, IN MY OPINION, clear evidence of that.

But I didn't want to get off track. I'm talking about the sport's importance to USC and why I think we need it more than Stanfords of the world. Let me guess......you're going to get Tay after me on this one, aren't you? 03-wink 03-razz :crying: Or are Cocky Road and Tay one and the same??!! :eek:
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Galactus Wrote:I don't know, Drake......You might ask Cocky Road......he's the guy that started that discussion and is who I was responding to. Also, while you're at it, ask him who said baseball wasn't important and that it wasn't a "thinking" sport.......also point out where I or anyone criticized his interests or hobbies.

Nowhere in this thread did anyone criticize the game of BASEBALL. I said nothing about Major League Baseball, which is an entirely different subject. In fact, no one criticized COLLEGE baseball.....My point in stating that the nation isn't sitting "on the edge of its seat" as a whole had absolutely nothing to do with whether anybody said that or not. I don't care if they did. What difference does that make? (Though, if you ask me my honest opinion, I'll say that there's no question that I believe that many USC fans have an inflated idea of college baseball's importance nationally........simply because we happen to be good at it and we need to be good in something). However, that's not my point. My point is that to schools like Texas and Stanford, who have been hugely successful in all of the major and minor sports, another national title could never mean to them what it would mean to US. To them, college baseball is great.......but it's just another sport they win at. Quite honestly, I think USC fans are simply starved for success and championships, and their incredible support (which I think is great, BTW) for college baseball, is, IN MY OPINION, clear evidence of that.

But I didn't want to get off track. I'm talking about the sport's importance to USC and why I think we need it more than Stanfords of the world. Let me guess......you're get Tay after me on this one, aren't you?&nbsp; 03-wink&nbsp; 03-razz&nbsp; :crying:&nbsp; Or are Cocky Road and Tay one and the same??!! :eek:
Well, for starters I'm not sticking up for Cocky Road per se, & I have no idea who he is, nor do I care, but I doubt he's Tay. Feel free to ask him the questons you asked me to ask him if you haven't already. I simply asked my question to you because you used the above mentioned comment in an attempt to prove, or make a point, but the fact is no one's claiming that the nation as a whole sits on the edge of their seats following college baseball like they do college football or hoops, so your comment was not only irrelevant, but it proves nothing while serving no purpose.

As for your point, while I agree with you on the basic premise that USC's Athletic program needs a CWS title more than a program like Texas or some of the others you mentioned, I disagree with you totally that baseball is small potatoes to the Texas' & LSU's of the world. If they don't care much about the sport, then why are they consistantly so successful in it? Fans of these schools do care about their baseball teams as do the schools themselves. That's why they have the facilities they do as well as the fan support. Don't take my word for it though. Find yourself an active Texas or LSU board & ask them if their baseball team, or a baseball NC = small potatoes to them.

I also disagree with you 100% when you state that Gamecock fans have an inflated idea of the importance of college baseball. On the flip side, I think it is you that doesn't realize the sport is as popular as it is. How can you? You yourself have stated many times that you don't even follow the game, so how can you even begin to think you know what you're talking about?

Also, Sarge Frye isn't the only place that has solid attendance, & USC isn't the only program that has strong fan support. Our own in-state rival has solid fan support as do several fellow SEC members. MSU & the above mentioned LSU are just 2 examples.

I'll put it to you this way. Most people, if not all people, agree with your basic point that college baseball's not as big as football or hoops, & we all realize that it's not followed as closely by a lot of fans either, & we know that's why it doesn't get the same level of national exposure. However, where you lose me is when you make comments that seem to suggest that programs like LSU, Stanford, Texas, FSU, Miami, and many others don't really care much about baseball, & that USC's fan support is some kind of anomaly or exception to the rule. Our support for baseball may be above average, but it's certainly not unique.
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And just for future reference:

If someone wants to criticize comic books.........fine. But I promise you, they'll lose that argument with me everytime. Make sure you know something about the art of the comic book and it's HISTORY before you go blasting it in my face.......if you don't know anything about the subject........then lay off. If you DO, then maybe we have something to talk about.

When someone can sit down and explain to me why they think artists/storytellers like Frank Frazetta, Jack Kirby, Hal Foster, Alex Raymond, Neal Adams, Burne Hogarth, Gil Kane, John Buscema, Milton Caniff, Lou Fine, C.C. Beck or Will Eisner are jokes or are irrrelevant.......or how illiterate writers like Gardner Fox, Mickey Spillane, Harlon Ellison or Roy Thomas are......buy all means, go right ahead. If you actually know something about these people, then I'll respect your opinion........even if you hate 'em all.

Chances are, though, persons criticizing the art of comics haven't a clue as to who these people are.......and therefore have no grounds for blasting comics in any way, shape or form.

Show me you can discuss the subject intelligently, and that you know something about it prior to the video game/MTV/music video era, and I'd love to engage anyone in a thorough discussion of the art form....even if we disagree.

As for video games themselves.......it's a free country. If you don't like sports video games, then don't play 'em. It's that simple. Me.......I happen to be interested THAT art form as well.......the creation and design of images is a passion of mine.....and I love how video artists interpret real sports. And I apologize to no one for it.

Was a nerve touched? You're darn right it was.
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Cocky Road's post to you was tasteless & lame. I see no reason to get personal.
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Me either. I hope you know, Drake, I was addressing Cocky Road and the like.......not you. I know you were just trying to find out where I was coming from. I just don't understand some posters resorting to personal insults simply because of a difference of opinion. Oh well..... 04-cheers

I missed your answer to me above. Sorry about that. Anyway....after reading it.......we'll just have to agree to disagree on most of your points. I'm well aware you disagree with me on this stuff, though. I HAVE made genuine efforts in the past to follow college baseball, but have found it to be very difficult outside of certain markets. Whether or not that entitles me to analyze aspects of the game is a matter of opinion.
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Someone we know?
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More than likely.
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