I just saw this: https://www.texastribune.org/2018/07/25/...al-school/

Sadly, I don't have any reason to think Rice will ever get a medical school or a law school. From what I have read it is really important to have one or both of them if we want to rise higher in the rankings.

"Rural Texas is struggling to keep doctors. One university wants to change that by opening a medical school.
Sam Houston State University argues that an osteopathic medical school is the prescription for what’s ailing underserved communities in Texas."

(09-01-2018 02:17 PM)TFW Wrote:  I just saw this: https://www.texastribune.org/2018/07/25/...al-school/
Sadly, I don't have any reason to think Rice will ever get a medical school or a law school. From what I have read it is really important to have one or both of them if we want to rise higher in the rankings.

Med school actually appears to affect the metrics more than law school. But we would need one or both to rise in the rankings, if that matters to anyone.

Rice will *never* have a law school.

Houston already has UH, Texas Southern, South Texas. Houston will never be able to support law school #4.

And, I dont see Rice 'buying in' with South Texas.

(09-01-2018 03:26 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Rice will *never* have a law school.

Houston already has UH, Texas Southern, South Texas. Houston will never be able to support law school #4.

And, I dont see Rice 'buying in' with South Texas.

Chicago's got UChicago, Northwestern, Marshall, DePaul, and maybe others?
A city can have many law schools if they pull students from the entire nation, i.e. I can imagine a small, "elite" law school that doesn't compete directly with theose. But I don't know if it's possible for an start-up law school to make that happen

Our business school has risen to national prominence from nothing by staying small and pulling highly qualified O&G people. I see no reason a med school or law school couldn’t do the same. BCM is a good med school but no one else in our region is elite (law or med school). Rice is already 40% undergrad premed at least.

Also it doesn’t matter if we have more med schools if we don’t have more residency programs. They’ll just graduate and not match.

Each year there are many residency slots that go unfilled by US graduates. FMG’s fill those spots.

Some US grads may not match in the specialty of their choice, but they are in no danger of not matching into a residency program.

(09-01-2018 05:13 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  Our business school has risen to national prominence from nothing by staying small and pulling highly qualified O&G people.

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Also it doesn’t matter if we have more med schools if we don’t have more residency programs. They’ll just graduate and not match.

Some jargon explanations, please:

O&G = ?

And what does "They’ll just graduate and not match." mean?

(09-01-2018 10:58 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  

(09-01-2018 05:13 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  Our business school has risen to national prominence from nothing by staying small and pulling highly qualified O&G people.

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Also it doesn’t matter if we have more med schools if we don’t have more residency programs. They’ll just graduate and not match.

Some jargon explanations, please:

O&G = ?

And what does "They’ll just graduate and not match." mean?

"O&G" = oil and gas industry folks

(09-01-2018 10:58 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  

(09-01-2018 05:13 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  Our business school has risen to national prominence from nothing by staying small and pulling highly qualified O&G people.

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Also it doesn’t matter if we have more med schools if we don’t have more residency programs. They’ll just graduate and not match.

Some jargon explanations, please:

O&G = ?

And what does "They’ll just graduate and not match." mean?

Can't comment on the O&G, but The Match is paramount in every medical student's professional career. Every year, in March, almost all of the residency slots are "matched" with fourth year medical students applying for those positions. The students register for a particular specialty. Some specialties have fewer positions than the number applying. Some have more. If you don't "match" then there is a mechanism to usually find you a position somewhere in something. However, if you're trying for a surgery slot and don't match you could wind up with a position in Family Medicine, etc. That's the essence of the match. But there are a LOT of subtleties and exceptions. It can get really complicated.

(09-01-2018 10:58 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  

(09-01-2018 05:13 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  Our business school has risen to national prominence from nothing by staying small and pulling highly qualified O&G people.

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Also it doesn’t matter if we have more med schools if we don’t have more residency programs. They’ll just graduate and not match.

Some jargon explanations, please:

O&G = ?

And what does "They’ll just graduate and not match." mean?

When you finish med school you match to a residency program. You list your top picks and the hospitals list theirs and you get “matched”. If you don’t get matched you’re out of luck, which is why you don’t go to a Caribbean med school.

Adding more med schools doesn’t do anything if you don’t have more residencies.

Thanks for the explanations, BetontheOwl, greyowl72 & cr11owl!

Also - am pretty sure "O&G people" simply means Oil and Gas.

There are enough residency spots. The problem is getting the residency spot that you want. As cr said, a graduate lists their top choices and the residency programs list theirs. You match with the highest common slot. You don’t match if you are not ranked on any residency list. That means you don’t get a slot of your choosing in the specialty you are choosing. When this happens, the process of finding a slot is called scrambling. Love the football analogy. Buy time til you find an open spot. Residencies try to address national needs. However, most graduates want to be specialists and sub specialists and not primary care or neurologists or psychiatrists. Therefore, these slots get filled by foreign grads. And usually, they get out of these and get into something they like better. Same for US grads as slots usually open up mid program in isolated programs for various reasons. What Sam Houston is trying to do is give access to rural graduates to train in an area of need. The problem is getting interest from graduates to practice in an area of need. And this gets into reimbursement among geographical areas and between specialistist. What is the worth of an East Texas primary care doc vs a Houston heart surgeon? And where does the money come from?

Found this Wikipedia page that includes the interesting and convoluted history of "The Match", Scramble and SOAP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_R...ng_Program

And there are a host of "policy changes" this year: http://www.nrmp.org/nrmp-board-of-directors-approves-policy-changes-for-the-2018-2019-match-season/

Sam is going to get their medical school:
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/08/14/...ssion=true