(08-02-2018 09:53 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:30 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 08:50 PM)JRsec Wrote:  The Navy commissioned the A1 at the end of WWII. It actually had the capability of delivering a nuke utilizing a dive with a steep climb and the slingshot effect of releasing the bomb on the rise. It would give the plane time to do an Immelmann and get away from the detonation.
We used it as a close ground support tactical fighter aircraft in Viet Nam. It gave Huey's cover for picking up the wounded or downed pilots, it could lay napalm & white phosphorus, fire rockets to take out tanks, or strafe with 50 caliber rounds or cut loose with 2 20mm cannons. It carried enough fuel to stay over a battle zone for several hours before returning to base.
The Skyraider was all the planes you mentioned rolled into one and it still had competitive speed to most of those you mentioned. Fully loaded it would still reach speeds of 374 mph.
It just wasn't as snazzy as some. The Mustang was in a class by itself but it couldn't carry anywhere near the ordinance of the Skyraider.

We called them Spads, and we used the hell out of them in Nam. They were real workhorses. Sad story, we had an AB1 on Ranger who had been up 24+ straight hours. He was just about worn out, and wasn't paying proper attention, and walked right into the turning prop of a Spad. Not a pretty scene. Flight deck crews worked incredible hours and it was an extremely dangerous place to work.

My dad was late in his career when he received orders to go to Viet Nam. He was an instructor for one of our top interceptors at the time, and one we held in reserve for ADC. They didn't want him interrogated on the capabilities of the F106 so they sent him to Eglin/Hurlburt to train in A1's. He was a Sandy Pilot, got his 100 missions in his first 6 months at NKP and then went to Saigon where he served directing activities into those two countries "not involved" in the war. He loved his time in the A1 and in flying close support for the troops and the downed pilots. I only wish he could have lived a few more years because his "Spad" flew in Tennessee at an air show a couple of months ago. It was rescued from Thailand at the end of the war when a South Vietnamese pilot and refugee used it to escape.

Your dad sounds like a helluva guy. I'd loved to have known him. I'll say thank you for his service.

(08-02-2018 10:12 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:53 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:30 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 08:50 PM)JRsec Wrote:  The Navy commissioned the A1 at the end of WWII. It actually had the capability of delivering a nuke utilizing a dive with a steep climb and the slingshot effect of releasing the bomb on the rise. It would give the plane time to do an Immelmann and get away from the detonation.
We used it as a close ground support tactical fighter aircraft in Viet Nam. It gave Huey's cover for picking up the wounded or downed pilots, it could lay napalm & white phosphorus, fire rockets to take out tanks, or strafe with 50 caliber rounds or cut loose with 2 20mm cannons. It carried enough fuel to stay over a battle zone for several hours before returning to base.
The Skyraider was all the planes you mentioned rolled into one and it still had competitive speed to most of those you mentioned. Fully loaded it would still reach speeds of 374 mph.
It just wasn't as snazzy as some. The Mustang was in a class by itself but it couldn't carry anywhere near the ordinance of the Skyraider.

We called them Spads, and we used the hell out of them in Nam. They were real workhorses. Sad story, we had an AB1 on Ranger who had been up 24+ straight hours. He was just about worn out, and wasn't paying proper attention, and walked right into the turning prop of a Spad. Not a pretty scene. Flight deck crews worked incredible hours and it was an extremely dangerous place to work.

My dad was late in his career when he received orders to go to Viet Nam. He was an instructor for one of our top interceptors at the time, and one we held in reserve for ADC. They didn't want him interrogated on the capabilities of the F106 so they sent him to Eglin/Hurlburt to train in A1's. He was a Sandy Pilot, got his 100 missions in his first 6 months at NKP and then went to Saigon where he served directing activities into those two countries "not involved" in the war. He loved his time in the A1 and in flying close support for the troops and the downed pilots. I only wish he could have lived a few more years because his "Spad" flew in Tennessee at an air show a couple of months ago. It was rescued from Thailand at the end of the war when a South Vietnamese pilot and refugee used it to escape.

Your dad sounds like a helluva guy. I'd loved to have known him. I'll say thank you for his service.

He was, and he would have said "I was glad to be of service!" Two DFC's, 1 Bronze Star, 5 Air Medals, and a recommendation for a Silver Star. He wouldn't have mentioned it so I will. My Uncle was shot down in November of '65. He was a Thud Driver. He spent the first two years in a Jungle camps and the last 5 in Hanoi. I just missed the war.

(08-02-2018 09:25 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:07 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 08:50 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 08:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 08:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Warthogs are great! However the genre was piston driven aircraft.

My favorites

Hawker Hurricane -sentiment
BF109 - engineering
Thunderbolt- brute force
Macchi Folgore- elegance
Spitfire- beauty

Mustang- all of the above.

But if I'm gonna go American dive bomber, I gotta go Douglas Dauntless

The Navy commissioned the A1 at the end of WWII. It actually had the capability of delivering a nuke utilizing a dive with a steep climb and the slingshot effect of releasing the bomb on the rise. It would give the plane time to do an Immelmann and get away from the detonation.

We used it as a close ground support tactical fighter aircraft in Viet Nam. It gave Huey's cover for picking up the wounded or downed pilots, it could lay napalm & white phosphorus, fire rockets to take out tanks, or strafe with 50 caliber rounds or cut loose with 2 20mm cannons. It carried enough fuel to stay over a battle zone for several hours before returning to base.

The Skyraider was all the planes you mentioned rolled into one and it still had competitive speed to most of those you mentioned. Fully loaded it would still reach speeds of 374 mph.

It just wasn't as snazzy as some. The Mustang was in a class by itself but it couldn't carry anywhere near the ordinance of the Skyraider.

Very cool. I lose interest if doesn't have pistons. I guess the Skyraider and the Bearcat were the last of a breed. I know wwii aircraft pretty well but before and after, not so much. I'll have to read up on the Skyraider. I did read it had an 18 cyl, b29 engine. Lol. Yikes.

It was a passion in our family. My dad learned how to fly when he was about 14. An old guy in his home town had bought an old surplus Curtis Jenny and took him up and taught him stick and rudder. He went on to become a fighter pilot. The first air shows that I attended still had a Fokker Tri-plane, a Fokker D-7, SE5's, a French Spad XIII and a Sopwith Camel. Most of the shows later on had the best of the WWII aircraft. B17-C, F, & G models, B24's, ME109's, FW190's, mostly replica Zeros, P51B & D models, P38's, P47's, a Spitfire or two, and at least one Widowmaker. Corsairs & P51's are fairly easy to find still today, but the rest not so much, at least not still flying. There's a guy around Auburn that takes up a WWII plane sometimes on Saturday mornings if the weather is nice. I swear I think it's a Russian Yak. The dang thing comes right over the house most times he takes it up. We still have a lot of T6's around here too.

I think he is a B2 bomber pilot that went in with some buddies and brought it over from Russia. Apparently Russia still has the machine templates and jigs. Didn't know it was kept in Auburn. You probably are seeing a Yak.

You know more about everything than me. Lol. It's starting to piss me off. Lmao. J/k. If I don't learn to fly before I die my life will be incomplete

(08-02-2018 10:28 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:25 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:07 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 08:50 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 08:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  My favorites

Hawker Hurricane -sentiment
BF109 - engineering
Thunderbolt- brute force
Macchi Folgore- elegance
Spitfire- beauty

Mustang- all of the above.

But if I'm gonna go American dive bomber, I gotta go Douglas Dauntless

The Navy commissioned the A1 at the end of WWII. It actually had the capability of delivering a nuke utilizing a dive with a steep climb and the slingshot effect of releasing the bomb on the rise. It would give the plane time to do an Immelmann and get away from the detonation.

We used it as a close ground support tactical fighter aircraft in Viet Nam. It gave Huey's cover for picking up the wounded or downed pilots, it could lay napalm & white phosphorus, fire rockets to take out tanks, or strafe with 50 caliber rounds or cut loose with 2 20mm cannons. It carried enough fuel to stay over a battle zone for several hours before returning to base.

The Skyraider was all the planes you mentioned rolled into one and it still had competitive speed to most of those you mentioned. Fully loaded it would still reach speeds of 374 mph.

It just wasn't as snazzy as some. The Mustang was in a class by itself but it couldn't carry anywhere near the ordinance of the Skyraider.

Very cool. I lose interest if doesn't have pistons. I guess the Skyraider and the Bearcat were the last of a breed. I know wwii aircraft pretty well but before and after, not so much. I'll have to read up on the Skyraider. I did read it had an 18 cyl, b29 engine. Lol. Yikes.

It was a passion in our family. My dad learned how to fly when he was about 14. An old guy in his home town had bought an old surplus Curtis Jenny and took him up and taught him stick and rudder. He went on to become a fighter pilot. The first air shows that I attended still had a Fokker Tri-plane, a Fokker D-7, SE5's, a French Spad XIII and a Sopwith Camel. Most of the shows later on had the best of the WWII aircraft. B17-C, F, & G models, B24's, ME109's, FW190's, mostly replica Zeros, P51B & D models, P38's, P47's, a Spitfire or two, and at least one Widowmaker. Corsairs & P51's are fairly easy to find still today, but the rest not so much, at least not still flying. There's a guy around Auburn that takes up a WWII plane sometimes on Saturday mornings if the weather is nice. I swear I think it's a Russian Yak. The dang thing comes right over the house most times he takes it up. We still have a lot of T6's around here too.

I think he is a B2 bomber pilot that went in with some buddies and brought it over from Russia. Apparently Russia still has the machine templates and jigs. Didn't know it was kept in Auburn. You probably are seeing a Yak.

You know more about everything than me. Lol. It's starting to piss me off. Lmao. J/k. If I don't learn to fly before I die my life will be incomplete

High Flight recital time! It really is peaceful up there. I've taken the yolk a few times but never officially learned to fly. I have a kid brother who did. Nothing as romantic as a Curtis Jenny for sure. I can't imagine what it must have been like to have flown in the early days of aviation when there was nothing in the air but you and the birds. It must have really been a zen moment.

(08-02-2018 10:21 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 10:12 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:53 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:30 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 08:50 PM)JRsec Wrote:  The Navy commissioned the A1 at the end of WWII. It actually had the capability of delivering a nuke utilizing a dive with a steep climb and the slingshot effect of releasing the bomb on the rise. It would give the plane time to do an Immelmann and get away from the detonation.
We used it as a close ground support tactical fighter aircraft in Viet Nam. It gave Huey's cover for picking up the wounded or downed pilots, it could lay napalm & white phosphorus, fire rockets to take out tanks, or strafe with 50 caliber rounds or cut loose with 2 20mm cannons. It carried enough fuel to stay over a battle zone for several hours before returning to base.
The Skyraider was all the planes you mentioned rolled into one and it still had competitive speed to most of those you mentioned. Fully loaded it would still reach speeds of 374 mph.
It just wasn't as snazzy as some. The Mustang was in a class by itself but it couldn't carry anywhere near the ordinance of the Skyraider.

We called them Spads, and we used the hell out of them in Nam. They were real workhorses. Sad story, we had an AB1 on Ranger who had been up 24+ straight hours. He was just about worn out, and wasn't paying proper attention, and walked right into the turning prop of a Spad. Not a pretty scene. Flight deck crews worked incredible hours and it was an extremely dangerous place to work.

My dad was late in his career when he received orders to go to Viet Nam. He was an instructor for one of our top interceptors at the time, and one we held in reserve for ADC. They didn't want him interrogated on the capabilities of the F106 so they sent him to Eglin/Hurlburt to train in A1's. He was a Sandy Pilot, got his 100 missions in his first 6 months at NKP and then went to Saigon where he served directing activities into those two countries "not involved" in the war. He loved his time in the A1 and in flying close support for the troops and the downed pilots. I only wish he could have lived a few more years because his "Spad" flew in Tennessee at an air show a couple of months ago. It was rescued from Thailand at the end of the war when a South Vietnamese pilot and refugee used it to escape.

Your dad sounds like a helluva guy. I'd loved to have known him. I'll say thank you for his service.

He was, and he would have said "I was glad to be of service!" Two DFC's, 1 Bronze Star, 5 Air Medals, and a recommendation for a Silver Star. He wouldn't have mentioned it so I will. My Uncle was shot down in November of '65. He was a Thud Driver. He spent the first two years in a Jungle camps and the last 5 in Hanoi. I just missed the war.

Wow

(08-02-2018 09:28 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 04:39 PM)green Wrote:  

https://twitter.com/LiveSatNews/status/1...4262707201

RUN OVER

I presume that you were happy when your side did precisely that (ran over) Heather Heyer.

And I'm using 'your side' because you openly cheerled running over protesters with automobiles.

And "Hershey Bar"? Let me guess how you came up with that nickname.

Seriously folks. I think you guys need to really, really, really take a HARD look at what you guys are saying in here. There a line and you guys are waaaaaaaaaaaaay out there. This looks like open incitement to kill people for protesting Trump. For reals folks.

Hyperbole! It's a form of humor. I doubt anyone thought Kap was being serious but I see you chose to make an issue out of it. So be it! Thread closed