(08-03-2018 07:21 AM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 11:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-gay_p...n_Chechnya

Ongoing genocide. Fact.

Do you identify as anything other than a gay man?

Asking for a friend.

When I have the same rights and protections as straight religious persons (full protection from employment, housing, education, and public accommodations discrimination), and there aren't people supported by powerful people in my government openly running death camps and calling to throw me in jail camps for being Gay, then perhaps being Gay can be just like being Irish. Some distinctive clothing, a few specialty bars, and a parade once a year. We ain't there and the GOP is moving us further from that day.

Deal?

(08-03-2018 11:00 AM)shere khan Wrote:  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl...137382.htm

In a new Harvard/Harris poll released this week exclusively to The Hill, President Trump’s overall approval rating rose to 47 percent, just two points shy of the highest level of his presidency, per that survey. The main driver of his growing popularity now: a stunning 10 percent rise in Trump approval among Hispanics. 

Everybody loves Trump.

America is happy

Color blind America

We have the best big tent folks, super elites.




https://www.americanthinker.com/articles..._gays.html

Trump is Winning Over Blacks, Hispanics, Millennials, and Even Gays

LOL. We shall see in November how well that is working out.

More threats from the resident librocrites, I see. Lol. "We'll see in November" that's hilarious coming from the the libs. We'll see what? Another beating at the polls for you absolute clowns on the left.
Keep whining though, that's one thing you're good at.

(08-02-2018 05:56 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 05:10 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  LOL. Bespoke group does what they were designed to do.

Meanwhile, we will see in November how well Trump is faring with African American voters.

Look, 3 to 5 percent of African Americans support Donald Trump. 5 to 10 percent of LGBT voters do. 10 percent or so of non-Cuban Hispanics support the Trump Admin. So, sure, Trump can trot out the same few supporters from those groups to try to sell Trump's racist and homophobic policies to the white voters that support Trump.

And that's the whole point of this 'award'. Trump and the GOP aren't trying to win minority voters, but rather to place some risible 'denial of racism' to the white voters that support him.

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Its so bad that you can find Trump's African American supporters in multiple places. Like the Blacks for Trump, Zircon and Burlap, and a few religious homophobes. They appear multiple times at multiple events. There's no groundswell of organic support by minorities for Trump or the GOP.

Why are the ones that offer a different opinion to the norm ostracized? Dak Prescott comes to mind. Yesterday he merely gave his opinion and was called a "coon" and "speaking for his master", etc. Makes no sense.

It's all they have left. Sure as schit cant run on the economy, can't run on terrorism, nobody much cares about foreign policy outside the chattering class (like many of us), stock market and retirement funds have bloated, wages are up, taxes are down.

Grass is greener, sky is bluer, birds are singing a little louder.

BUT MUH RASSSISM!!!


The transparency is embarrassingly transparent.

(08-02-2018 06:28 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 06:19 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 06:12 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 05:56 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 05:10 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  LOL. Bespoke group does what they were designed to do.

Meanwhile, we will see in November how well Trump is faring with African American voters.

Look, 3 to 5 percent of African Americans support Donald Trump. 5 to 10 percent of LGBT voters do. 10 percent or so of non-Cuban Hispanics support the Trump Admin. So, sure, Trump can trot out the same few supporters from those groups to try to sell Trump's racist and homophobic policies to the white voters that support Trump.

And that's the whole point of this 'award'. Trump and the GOP aren't trying to win minority voters, but rather to place some risible 'denial of racism' to the white voters that support him.

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Its so bad that you can find Trump's African American supporters in multiple places. Like the Blacks for Trump, Zircon and Burlap, and a few religious homophobes. They appear multiple times at multiple events. There's no groundswell of organic support by minorities for Trump or the GOP.

Why are the ones that offer a different opinion to the norm ostracized? Dak Prescott comes to mind. Yesterday he merely gave his opinion and was called a "coon" and "speaking for his master", etc. Makes no sense.

Here's why I condemn those from my community that publicly support Trump. Because they are used by Trump to refute claims of bigotry by Trump supporters. Basically the very few (usually well off) minority supporters of Trump are being used by Trump not as a two way street to influence Trump to be less of a bigot/racist, but as a way for Trump and his supporters to continue to be just as racist and bigoted as before and to try to provide cover to white supremacists and bigots that support Trumps policies.

You're just a bitter, sad little man arent you. Let it go.

Ah...thanks for the risible gaslighting attempt. No thanks. I'm fine. Just calling Trump out for what he is. An obvious racist and bigot.

Serially,

I've seen this before, what does that even mean?

Tom had to sneak in a gay death camp post, lol.

(08-02-2018 06:12 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 05:56 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 05:10 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  LOL. Bespoke group does what they were designed to do.

Meanwhile, we will see in November how well Trump is faring with African American voters.

Look, 3 to 5 percent of African Americans support Donald Trump. 5 to 10 percent of LGBT voters do. 10 percent or so of non-Cuban Hispanics support the Trump Admin. So, sure, Trump can trot out the same few supporters from those groups to try to sell Trump's racist and homophobic policies to the white voters that support Trump.

And that's the whole point of this 'award'. Trump and the GOP aren't trying to win minority voters, but rather to place some risible 'denial of racism' to the white voters that support him.

---

Its so bad that you can find Trump's African American supporters in multiple places. Like the Blacks for Trump, Zircon and Burlap, and a few religious homophobes. They appear multiple times at multiple events. There's no groundswell of organic support by minorities for Trump or the GOP.

Why are the ones that offer a different opinion to the norm ostracized? Dak Prescott comes to mind. Yesterday he merely gave his opinion and was called a "coon" and "speaking for his master", etc. Makes no sense.

Here's why I condemn those from my community that publicly support Trump. Because they are used by Trump to refute claims of bigotry by Trump supporters. Basically the very few (usually well off) minority supporters of Trump are being used by Trump not as a two way street to influence Trump to be less of a bigot/racist, but as a way for Trump and his supporters to continue to be just as racist and bigoted as before and to try to provide cover to white supremacists and bigots that support Trumps policies.

That is the ramblings of an individual who hates anyone who does not ‘identify’ with his sexual preference. Sadly that preference consumes his being.

(08-03-2018 02:24 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 06:12 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 05:56 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 05:10 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  LOL. Bespoke group does what they were designed to do.

Meanwhile, we will see in November how well Trump is faring with African American voters.

Look, 3 to 5 percent of African Americans support Donald Trump. 5 to 10 percent of LGBT voters do. 10 percent or so of non-Cuban Hispanics support the Trump Admin. So, sure, Trump can trot out the same few supporters from those groups to try to sell Trump's racist and homophobic policies to the white voters that support Trump.

And that's the whole point of this 'award'. Trump and the GOP aren't trying to win minority voters, but rather to place some risible 'denial of racism' to the white voters that support him.

---

Its so bad that you can find Trump's African American supporters in multiple places. Like the Blacks for Trump, Zircon and Burlap, and a few religious homophobes. They appear multiple times at multiple events. There's no groundswell of organic support by minorities for Trump or the GOP.

Why are the ones that offer a different opinion to the norm ostracized? Dak Prescott comes to mind. Yesterday he merely gave his opinion and was called a "coon" and "speaking for his master", etc. Makes no sense.

Here's why I condemn those from my community that publicly support Trump. Because they are used by Trump to refute claims of bigotry by Trump supporters. Basically the very few (usually well off) minority supporters of Trump are being used by Trump not as a two way street to influence Trump to be less of a bigot/racist, but as a way for Trump and his supporters to continue to be just as racist and bigoted as before and to try to provide cover to white supremacists and bigots that support Trumps policies.

That is the ramblings of an individual who hates anyone who does not ‘identify’ with his sexual preference. Sadly that preference consumes his being.

They are what they hate

(08-02-2018 08:11 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 08:05 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'm sure you could fill a 1,000 seat stadium, with gay people, black people, feminists, etc who would go absolutely nuts for Trump. Under the right circumstances that would seem like black people are crazy about him. Start trying to go beyond those thousand seats and it'll start looking like a Mississippi JUCO team playing in Ohio Stadium.

That's about right. The level of support that Trump as among minorities is NOT zero, but its pretty darn close.

As, of course, you speak for all minorities...

(08-03-2018 02:26 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-03-2018 02:24 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  That is the ramblings of an individual who hates anyone who does not ‘identify’ with his sexual preference. Sadly that preference consumes his being.

They are what they hate eat.

FIFY

(08-03-2018 07:55 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:56 PM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:49 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:43 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:26 PM)Momus Wrote:  They’re still too cowardly to openly admit it.

Why don't you two get a room.

The only thing they have proven is that democrats hate white people, democrats hate straight people, democrats hate people that are for legal immigration, democrats hate people that want lower taxes, democrats hate people that agree with the constitution, democrats hate capitalism, democrats hate the flag.

In short, just remember, democrats hate you.

Democrats hate America.

Hatred is the right-wing game. We on the left are trying to save our great nation from the threat the right represents. The right is thoroughly Un-American. They line up shoulder to shoulder with America’s adversaries, with race-baiters, with white supremacists, with those who denigrate justice, and with those who tear down a free press. The right wants to turn America into a dictatorship. They want to limit the right to vote. They want to strip democracy away from our citizens. History will remember the modern right as the vile group that they are.

Yea,

I waded into this "thread" with a certain amount of genuine interest for about the first half of page one or so. Then, it just turned into more comedy gold thanks to the usual suspects.

I had NO idea I was all those things just cause I have disdain for most all things Clintoon.

The rest of this has got to be a joke.

(08-03-2018 10:06 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Support for President Donald Trump among African American voters nearly doubled from August 2017 to August 2018. The percentage of black voters who approve of the job Mr. Trump is doing as president was 15% in the Rasmussen Reports Daily Presidential Tracking Poll on August 2, 2017.

As of August 2, 2018, the percentage of black voters who approve of the job Mr. Trump is doing as president has risen to 29%.

https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/polls...ack-voters

That's a death knell if those numbers ever translated to the voting booth.

(08-03-2018 03:06 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 08:11 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 08:05 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'm sure you could fill a 1,000 seat stadium, with gay people, black people, feminists, etc who would go absolutely nuts for Trump. Under the right circumstances that would seem like black people are crazy about him. Start trying to go beyond those thousand seats and it'll start looking like a Mississippi JUCO team playing in Ohio Stadium.

That's about right. The level of support that Trump as among minorities is NOT zero, but its pretty darn close.

As, of course, you speak for all minorities...

Nah, but there's plenty of actual data, in the form of lots of electoral points to back it up. All showing that the GOP has somewhere between 5 to 10 percent of the Black vote, 10-15 of the Hispanic and Gay vote (most of the Hispanic Trump vote is Cuban and much of the Trump Gay vote is white male Gay in the Deep South) and roughly 20-30 percent of the Asian vote (heavily concentrated among evangelical Asians). Roughly 30 percent of Jews support Trump (heavily Orthodox/Hasidic/Haredim). Outside of the religious minority voters, there's also a heavy gender component, with male support double of that of females. Education level is a factor for non-religious minorities of color, but not for Gays (geography is the biggest factor there). Oddly enough, evangelical Hispanics don't go for Trump in higher numbers than non-evangelical Hispanics (again the critical factor there is whether they are from the 1959-1968 Cuban migration or not)

So yes, if you go to a Cuban neighborhood (or possibly a Venezuelan one - but they really don't have enough citizens to really impact much yet), you can find a room that's majority Trump supporters. Or if you just poll the white Gay men in a Gay bar in Jackson MS, you'll find a lot of Trump supporters.

But we're talking about slivers of slivers here, as far as support for Trump goes. Adding all the Jews/Muslims/Asians/Hispanics/Blacks/LGBTQ together, and you get Trump with somewhere around 11 percent of that vote. Remember that the highest voting cohort in that group are actually African Americans.

(08-03-2018 04:38 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-03-2018 03:06 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 08:11 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 08:05 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'm sure you could fill a 1,000 seat stadium, with gay people, black people, feminists, etc who would go absolutely nuts for Trump. Under the right circumstances that would seem like black people are crazy about him. Start trying to go beyond those thousand seats and it'll start looking like a Mississippi JUCO team playing in Ohio Stadium.

That's about right. The level of support that Trump as among minorities is NOT zero, but its pretty darn close.

As, of course, you speak for all minorities...

Nah, but there's plenty of actual data, in the form of lots of electoral points to back it up. All showing that the GOP has somewhere between 5 to 10 percent of the Black vote, 10-15 of the Hispanic and Gay vote (most of the Hispanic Trump vote is Cuban and much of the Trump Gay vote is white male Gay in the Deep South) and roughly 20-30 percent of the Asian vote (heavily concentrated among evangelical Asians). Roughly 30 percent of Jews support Trump (heavily Orthodox/Hasidic/Haredim). Outside of the religious minority voters, there's also a heavy gender component, with male support double of that of females. Education level is a factor for non-religious minorities of color, but not for Gays (geography is the biggest factor there). Oddly enough, evangelical Hispanics don't go for Trump in higher numbers than non-evangelical Hispanics (again the critical factor there is whether they are from the 1959-1968 Cuban migration or not)

So yes, if you go to a Cuban neighborhood (or possibly a Venezuelan one - but they really don't have enough citizens to really impact much yet), you can find a room that's majority Trump supporters. Or if you just poll the white Gay men in a Gay bar in Jackson MS, you'll find a lot of Trump supporters.

But we're talking about slivers of slivers here, as far as support for Trump goes. Adding all the Jews/Muslims/Asians/Hispanics/Blacks/LGBTQ together, and you get Trump with somewhere around 11 percent of that vote. Remember that the highest voting cohort in that group are actually African Americans.

Totally wrong.

(08-02-2018 05:10 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  LOL. Bespoke group does what they were designed to do.

Meanwhile, we will see in November how well Trump is faring with African American voters.

Look, 3 to 5 percent of African Americans support Donald Trump. 5 to 10 percent of LGBT voters do. 10 percent or so of non-Cuban Hispanics support the Trump Admin. So, sure, Trump can trot out the same few supporters from those groups to try to sell Trump's racist and homophobic policies to the white voters that support Trump.

And that's the whole point of this 'award'. Trump and the GOP aren't trying to win minority voters, but rather to place some risible 'denial of racism' to the white voters that support him.

---

Its so bad that you can find Trump's African American supporters in multiple places. Like the Blacks for Trump, Zircon and Burlap, and a few religious homophobes. They appear multiple times at multiple events. There's no groundswell of organic support by minorities for Trump or the GOP.

This was not part of the OP and the introduction of such topics only helps to derail threads away from the intended topic of the OP. Way too much of this goes on in this forum.

I hope all posters will note this. Keep the thread on topic. If you want to discuss another aspect of an issue or a different issue then start your own thread.

Here you set this topic up in post 10 and then diverted it to your issue in post 13. We need to clean this up and if it is a topic you wish to discuss start another thread.

When derailment to a separate agenda occurs I will issue a % of warning for spamming. It will get only get much higher each time this is done by a poster. Not every thread is a race thread, a homophobia thread, a political thread, or even a serious thread. But whatever the thread the OP wants to talk about will be what that thread is about. When someone feels the need to hijack it to what they want to talk about they'll get dinged.

That's all carry on!