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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
I know there wasn't much game played but does anyone have a link to a replay? I checked Watch ESPN and couldn't find it and nothing on youtube yet.
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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
(09-09-2018 10:16 AM)HyperDuke Wrote: I don’t LOVE 5 home games. This game away @ NSU during a 6 game home schedule is fine IMO. Contributing factors are: RECRUITING 757 by showcasing JMU in Norfolk, stadium is big and could have accommodated TONS of JMU fans.
I think the ugly factor here is JMU fans who bought-in to some mythical danger of attending this game. Sure, parts of Norfolk are dicey, even the edges of NSU’s campus. But not once did I feel unsafe walking from one end of campus to the other. Quite the opposite. Big, friendly tailgates just like JMU. People who didn’t attend should stop complaining.
But that Blue Moon Mexican Lager was not good- where is Natty Light when you need it for Hyper? Seriously, it was raining buckets, but there was a crowd of 200 or so at Blue Moon when we arrived and more lurking around Waterside. Agree with the six home game statement and also believe without the weather it would have been a good JMU showing and experience. I know the Duke Club chapter down here is working hard to get more folks involved and have more activities, so it was probably a good day overall for them. I think HU historically has a better program and is in a better conference- an fcs 757 game would probably be better with HU than NSU. What would be better would be a home and home with Ole Dirty.
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Game 2 at Norfolk State
(09-09-2018 04:09 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote: Latest forecast today calls for the storm to stall in Virginia Friday into Saturday and specifically mentions Harrisonburg as an area where catastrophic rainfall and flooding is likely. We’ve all seen what happens to BFS.
80% chance the game is called off imo.
They should work with RMU officials for a potential earlier in the week night game. I’m talking Thursday or Friday.
JMU can make it work if they wanted to.
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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
(09-09-2018 04:28 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote: (09-09-2018 10:16 AM)HyperDuke Wrote: I don’t LOVE 5 home games. This game away @ NSU during a 6 game home schedule is fine IMO. Contributing factors are: RECRUITING 757 by showcasing JMU in Norfolk, stadium is big and could have accommodated TONS of JMU fans.
I think the ugly factor here is JMU fans who bought-in to some mythical danger of attending this game. Sure, parts of Norfolk are dicey, even the edges of NSU’s campus. But not once did I feel unsafe walking from one end of campus to the other. Quite the opposite. Big, friendly tailgates just like JMU. People who didn’t attend should stop complaining.
But that Blue Moon Mexican Lager was not good- where is Natty Light when you need it for Hyper? Seriously, it was raining buckets, but there was a crowd of 200 or so at Blue Moon when we arrived and more lurking around Waterside. Agree with the six home game statement and also believe without the weather it would have been a good JMU showing and experience. I know the Duke Club chapter down here is working hard to get more folks involved and have more activities, so it was probably a good day overall for them. I think HU historically has a better program and is in a better conference- an fcs 757 game would probably be better with HU than NSU. What would be better would be a home and home with Ole Dirty.
Nope, we own the series against Hampton and last year was the first time they beat us in 4 years. Y'all played the better of the two
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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
(09-09-2018 10:16 AM)HyperDuke Wrote: I don’t LOVE 5 home games. This game away @ NSU during a 6 game home schedule is fine IMO. Contributing factors are: RECRUITING 757 by showcasing JMU in Norfolk, stadium is big and could have accommodated TONS of JMU fans.
I think the ugly factor here is JMU fans who bought-in to some mythical danger of attending this game. Sure, parts of Norfolk are dicey, even the edges of NSU’s campus. But not once did I feel unsafe walking from one end of campus to the other. Quite the opposite. Big, friendly tailgates just like JMU. People who didn’t attend should stop complaining.
I second that emotion. I enjoyed my time-killing talking with NSU folks, who were friendly and engaging. Got to see the band strut, even if it was inside the Student Center. And we parked at one of the light rail stations and rode the train back late, into the dark and survived. But hey we are roadwarriors! right?
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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
(09-09-2018 05:46 PM)booman Wrote: (09-09-2018 04:28 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote: (09-09-2018 10:16 AM)HyperDuke Wrote: I don’t LOVE 5 home games. This game away @ NSU during a 6 game home schedule is fine IMO. Contributing factors are: RECRUITING 757 by showcasing JMU in Norfolk, stadium is big and could have accommodated TONS of JMU fans.
I think the ugly factor here is JMU fans who bought-in to some mythical danger of attending this game. Sure, parts of Norfolk are dicey, even the edges of NSU’s campus. But not once did I feel unsafe walking from one end of campus to the other. Quite the opposite. Big, friendly tailgates just like JMU. People who didn’t attend should stop complaining.
But that Blue Moon Mexican Lager was not good- where is Natty Light when you need it for Hyper? Seriously, it was raining buckets, but there was a crowd of 200 or so at Blue Moon when we arrived and more lurking around Waterside. Agree with the six home game statement and also believe without the weather it would have been a good JMU showing and experience. I know the Duke Club chapter down here is working hard to get more folks involved and have more activities, so it was probably a good day overall for them. I think HU historically has a better program and is in a better conference- an fcs 757 game would probably be better with HU than NSU. What would be better would be a home and home with Ole Dirty.
Nope, we own the series against Hampton and last year was the first time they beat us in 4 years. Y'all played the better of the two
Maybe...example: 2012 HU was 3-7. 2013 they were 4-8. Beat NSU both seasons. Yeah, NSU “owns” the series at 28-26-1....NSU has not won more than 4 games since 2011....I take back what I said; both programs are the pits.
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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
(09-09-2018 04:09 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote: Latest forecast today calls for the storm to stall in Virginia Friday into Saturday and specifically mentions Harrisonburg as an area where catastrophic rainfall and flooding is likely. We’ve all seen what happens to BFS.
80% chance the game is called off imo.
It saying it won’t happen but we are still 6 days out. Fronts that are expected change all the time so who knows.
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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
(09-09-2018 04:28 PM)jmutoml757 Wrote: (09-09-2018 10:16 AM)HyperDuke Wrote: I don’t LOVE 5 home games. This game away @ NSU during a 6 game home schedule is fine IMO. Contributing factors are: RECRUITING 757 by showcasing JMU in Norfolk, stadium is big and could have accommodated TONS of JMU fans.
I think the ugly factor here is JMU fans who bought-in to some mythical danger of attending this game. Sure, parts of Norfolk are dicey, even the edges of NSU’s campus. But not once did I feel unsafe walking from one end of campus to the other. Quite the opposite. Big, friendly tailgates just like JMU. People who didn’t attend should stop complaining.
But that Blue Moon Mexican Lager was not good- where is Natty Light when you need it for Hyper? Seriously, it was raining buckets, but there was a crowd of 200 or so at Blue Moon when we arrived and more lurking around Waterside. Agree with the six home game statement and also believe without the weather it would have been a good JMU showing and experience. I know the Duke Club chapter down here is working hard to get more folks involved and have more activities, so it was probably a good day overall for them. I think HU historically has a better program and is in a better conference- an fcs 757 game would probably be better with HU than NSU. What would be better would be a home and home with Ole Dirty.
Yeah, not a great beer...
I’d rather play Norfolk St than Hampton if it’s away. More seats at The Dick and a way better band.
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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
(09-09-2018 03:21 PM)HyperDuke Wrote: (09-09-2018 12:44 PM)Purple Wrote: (09-09-2018 11:35 AM)HyperDuke Wrote: (09-09-2018 11:20 AM)Madison 91 Forever Wrote: NSU gave up 1/4 of the way through the game. They essentially forfeited. That is totally bizarre, and if Coach Houston had ever suggested any such thing (which he wouldn't) he'd have a complete revolution on his hands. NSU's program is a dumpster fire, and JMU should never, ever, ever, ever schedule them again.
But we need at least one cupcake every year on the schedule. I’d rather play NSU than St. Francis or Robert Morris.
We are playing two of those three in the first three weeks of the season which doesn't exactly do great things for our SOS. Sam Houston much?
???I said at least one???
Are you saying we are SHSU when we schedule two cupcakes? I agree that we should only schedule one cupcake & it will usually be a guarantee game. I don’t think we’re SHSU though.
That's all I'm saying. One is plenty. Look for NDSU and other playoff opponents to ridicule that schedule big time in the playoffs. I would love to see another FBS added, like ODU. Very winnable game that helps our schedule rather than hurts it and we get a paycheck for it. I understand that getting an ODU or ECU to schedule us may not be easy given the relative strengths of our teams and the likelihood that we will embarrass them out of their own stadium. Still, I'm sure we can find opponents less yawn-inspiring than Norfolk State and Robert Friggin Morris. The Withers explanation makes sense.
And, no, I am not saying we are Sam Houston. But, I am saying that Sam Houston is noted for that. I don't want to have to defend the indefensible to Bison fans or anyone else. That's all. My opinion.
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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
(09-11-2018 07:58 AM)Purple Wrote: (09-09-2018 03:21 PM)HyperDuke Wrote: (09-09-2018 12:44 PM)Purple Wrote: (09-09-2018 11:35 AM)HyperDuke Wrote: (09-09-2018 11:20 AM)Madison 91 Forever Wrote: NSU gave up 1/4 of the way through the game. They essentially forfeited. That is totally bizarre, and if Coach Houston had ever suggested any such thing (which he wouldn't) he'd have a complete revolution on his hands. NSU's program is a dumpster fire, and JMU should never, ever, ever, ever schedule them again.
But we need at least one cupcake every year on the schedule. I’d rather play NSU than St. Francis or Robert Morris.
We are playing two of those three in the first three weeks of the season which doesn't exactly do great things for our SOS. Sam Houston much?
???I said at least one???
Are you saying we are SHSU when we schedule two cupcakes? I agree that we should only schedule one cupcake & it will usually be a guarantee game. I don’t think we’re SHSU though.
That's all I'm saying. One is plenty. Look for NDSU and other playoff opponents to hammer that schedule big time in the playoffs. I would love to see another FBS added, like ODU. Very winnable game that helps our schedule rather than hurts it.
And, no, I am not saying we are Sam Houston. But, I am saying that Sam Houston is noted for that. The Withers explanation makes sense.
Soft Houston plays in a joke conference so their only way to have real competition is OOC opponents. JMU plays in the best conference in FCS so we’re playing tougher games throughout the season. NDSU has a weaker OOC schedule this year than JMU so they’ll have no ground to “hammer” JMU’s schedule
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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
Yeah, at this point other than wanting to get a top 2 seed, I think we're past needing 2 cupcakes to partner our FBS game. The issue is whether fans would be happy with 5 home games if it means we could play our normal regional P5 opponent and then a crap G5 opponent. If we could land our P5 and then a bad G5 (Charlotte, ODU, Coastal, WKU, UMass, UConn, FIU, Akron, GSU, etc.) I think it would be ideal as far as competition goes. We would still have our P5 game where we have a 15-50% chance of winning and then an FBS that we would probably win...only issue is most of those really don't want to play an FCS team that will beat them.
EDIT: Or we could get the Alpha Dogs to cover the difference in payment between a good ACC and a bad ACC school...so when the likes of UVA offer us $200k instead of $400-500k we say yes knowing we're not going to miss that extra money. On the anniversary of the VT win, would it not be worth everyone ponying up a little extra so that we could own the Hoos?
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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
(09-11-2018 07:58 AM)Purple Wrote: (09-09-2018 03:21 PM)HyperDuke Wrote: (09-09-2018 12:44 PM)Purple Wrote: (09-09-2018 11:35 AM)HyperDuke Wrote: (09-09-2018 11:20 AM)Madison 91 Forever Wrote: NSU gave up 1/4 of the way through the game. They essentially forfeited. That is totally bizarre, and if Coach Houston had ever suggested any such thing (which he wouldn't) he'd have a complete revolution on his hands. NSU's program is a dumpster fire, and JMU should never, ever, ever, ever schedule them again.
But we need at least one cupcake every year on the schedule. I’d rather play NSU than St. Francis or Robert Morris.
We are playing two of those three in the first three weeks of the season which doesn't exactly do great things for our SOS. Sam Houston much?
???I said at least one???
Are you saying we are SHSU when we schedule two cupcakes? I agree that we should only schedule one cupcake & it will usually be a guarantee game. I don’t think we’re SHSU though.
That's all I'm saying. One is plenty. Look for NDSU and other playoff opponents to ridicule that schedule big time in the playoffs. I would love to see another FBS added, like ODU. Very winnable game that helps our schedule rather than hurts it and we get a paycheck for it. I understand that getting an ODU or ECU to schedule us may not be easy given the relative strengths of our teams and the likelihood that we will embarrass them out of their own stadium. Still, I'm sure we can find opponents less yawn-inspiring than Norfolk State and Robert Friggin Morris. The Withers explanation makes sense.
And, no, I am not saying we are Sam Houston. But, I am saying that Sam Houston is noted for that. I don't want to have to defend the indefensible to Bison fans or anyone else. That's all. My opinion.
LOL on NDSU hammering JMU’s schedule or having to defend anything to to NDSU fans. NDSU 7 home games. Look at their OOC schedule LOL:
9/1 Home vs Cal Poly (1-10 last season).
9/15 Home vs transitioning from Div II Northern Alabama.
9/22 Home vs UD (their toughest OOC game vs an overrated UD).
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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
(09-11-2018 08:09 AM)jmufan2008 Wrote: Yeah, at this point other than wanting to get a top 2 seed, I think we're past needing 2 cupcakes to partner our FBS game. The issue is whether fans would be happy with 5 home games if it means we could play our normal regional P5 opponent and then a crap G5 opponent. If we could land our P5 and then a bad G5 (Charlotte, ODU, Coastal, WKU, UMass, UConn, FIU, Akron, GSU, etc.) I think it would be ideal as far as competition goes. We would still have our P5 game where we have a 15-50% chance of winning and then an FBS that we would probably win...only issue is most of those really don't want to play an FCS team that will beat them.
EDIT: Or we could get the Alpha Dogs to cover the difference in payment between a good ACC and a bad ACC school...so when the likes of UVA offer us $200k instead of $400-500k we say yes knowing we're not going to miss that extra money. On the anniversary of the VT win, would it not be worth everyone ponying up a little extra so that we could own the Hoos?
I don't think I'd want two FBS and one less home game every year. The ideal format for me has always been one FBS, one cupcake, and a home-and-home with a good regional OOC FCS team, but I don't really know who that would be now that so many of the mid-atlantic/southeast teams have left. Liberty, Coastal, App St all would have been great options. Who would fit that bill these days? Colgate? NC A&T? Kennesaw? Wofford?
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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
It's insulting that we'd agree to play at the above mentioned FBS schools (except Appy and UConn). We outdraw them all. Neutral site or home & home.
If you're going to talk the FBS talk, you gotta be able to walk the FBS walk. If you can't show me large attendance #s and the payday that goes with it, I want a home and home. Those conference rules about playing at FCS schools are outdated in this era of "puffed up" FBS programs. Call them on it or move on to other options.
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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
(09-11-2018 08:17 AM)BDKJMU Wrote: (09-11-2018 07:58 AM)Purple Wrote: (09-09-2018 03:21 PM)HyperDuke Wrote: (09-09-2018 12:44 PM)Purple Wrote: (09-09-2018 11:35 AM)HyperDuke Wrote: But we need at least one cupcake every year on the schedule. I’d rather play NSU than St. Francis or Robert Morris.
We are playing two of those three in the first three weeks of the season which doesn't exactly do great things for our SOS. Sam Houston much?
???I said at least one???
Are you saying we are SHSU when we schedule two cupcakes? I agree that we should only schedule one cupcake & it will usually be a guarantee game. I don’t think we’re SHSU though.
That's all I'm saying. One is plenty. Look for NDSU and other playoff opponents to ridicule that schedule big time in the playoffs. I would love to see another FBS added, like ODU. Very winnable game that helps our schedule rather than hurts it and we get a paycheck for it. I understand that getting an ODU or ECU to schedule us may not be easy given the relative strengths of our teams and the likelihood that we will embarrass them out of their own stadium. Still, I'm sure we can find opponents less yawn-inspiring than Norfolk State and Robert Friggin Morris. The Withers explanation makes sense.
And, no, I am not saying we are Sam Houston. But, I am saying that Sam Houston is noted for that. I don't want to have to defend the indefensible to Bison fans or anyone else. That's all. My opinion.
LOL on NDSU hammering JMU’s schedule or having to defend anything to to NDSU fans. NDSU 7 home games. Look at their OOC schedule LOL:
9/1 Home vs Cal Poly (1-10 last season).
9/15 Home vs transitioning from Div II Northern Alabama.
9/22 Home vs UD (their toughest OOC game vs an overrated UD).
UD is their equivalent of an FBS game on their OOC schedule. It is laughable to suggest that JMU will have to defend it's OOC schedule. NDSU should be the one having to defend their OOC schedule. But here's the thing: they won't have to. Their strength (as well as ours) is the conference schedule. Schools like SHSU should be the ones that should be strengthening their OOC schedule with tougher opponents. But here's the thing: they are not doing that. They have a schedule entirely filled with easy opponents, run the table and then get a top seed in the tournament (JSU also has done this many times). Why stack the deck even more against us by playing a tougher OOC schedule when others aren't getting penalized for it?
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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
(09-11-2018 08:09 AM)jmufan2008 Wrote: Yeah, at this point other than wanting to get a top 2 seed, I think we're past needing 2 cupcakes to partner our FBS game. The issue is whether fans would be happy with 5 home games if it means we could play our normal regional P5 opponent and then a crap G5 opponent. If we could land our P5 and then a bad G5 (Charlotte, ODU, Coastal, WKU, UMass, UConn, FIU, Akron, GSU, etc.) I think it would be ideal as far as competition goes. We would still have our P5 game where we have a 15-50% chance of winning and then an FBS that we would probably win...only issue is most of those really don't want to play an FCS team that will beat them.
EDIT: Or we could get the Alpha Dogs to cover the difference in payment between a good ACC and a bad ACC school...so when the likes of UVA offer us $200k instead of $400-500k we say yes knowing we're not going to miss that extra money. On the anniversary of the VT win, would it not be worth everyone ponying up a little extra so that we could own the Hoos?
Sounds great, but skeptical UVA would schedule a loss to us, even if it was free for them and at their stadium. Best case I can imagine would be neutral site (eg FedEx) and split the gate with them 60/40 or 70/30, but don’t think they really want to play us under any conditions. Same thing with ODU.
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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
(09-11-2018 09:06 AM)JMad03 Wrote: (09-11-2018 08:17 AM)BDKJMU Wrote: (09-11-2018 07:58 AM)Purple Wrote: (09-09-2018 03:21 PM)HyperDuke Wrote: (09-09-2018 12:44 PM)Purple Wrote: We are playing two of those three in the first three weeks of the season which doesn't exactly do great things for our SOS. Sam Houston much?
???I said at least one???
Are you saying we are SHSU when we schedule two cupcakes? I agree that we should only schedule one cupcake & it will usually be a guarantee game. I don’t think we’re SHSU though.
That's all I'm saying. One is plenty. Look for NDSU and other playoff opponents to ridicule that schedule big time in the playoffs. I would love to see another FBS added, like ODU. Very winnable game that helps our schedule rather than hurts it and we get a paycheck for it. I understand that getting an ODU or ECU to schedule us may not be easy given the relative strengths of our teams and the likelihood that we will embarrass them out of their own stadium. Still, I'm sure we can find opponents less yawn-inspiring than Norfolk State and Robert Friggin Morris. The Withers explanation makes sense.
And, no, I am not saying we are Sam Houston. But, I am saying that Sam Houston is noted for that. I don't want to have to defend the indefensible to Bison fans or anyone else. That's all. My opinion.
LOL on NDSU hammering JMU’s schedule or having to defend anything to to NDSU fans. NDSU 7 home games. Look at their OOC schedule LOL:
9/1 Home vs Cal Poly (1-10 last season).
9/15 Home vs transitioning from Div II Northern Alabama.
9/22 Home vs UD (their toughest OOC game vs an overrated UD).
UD is their equivalent of an FBS game on their OOC schedule. It is laughable to suggest that JMU will have to defend it's OOC schedule. NDSU should be the one having to defend their OOC schedule. But here's the thing: they won't have to. Their strength (as well as ours) is the conference schedule. Schools like SHSU should be the ones that should be strengthening their OOC schedule with tougher opponents. But here's the thing: they are not doing that. They have a schedule entirely filled with easy opponents, run the table and then get a top seed in the tournament (JSU also has done this many times). Why stack the deck even more against us by playing a tougher OOC schedule when others aren't getting penalized for it?
At least JSU in the past has scheduled a P5. This year they didnt, but did schedule NC A&T and Kennesaw. Soft Houston won even schedule a I-A game (2016, 2017, 2018).
And I agree. Some people want every season: I-A, home & home v. quality I-AA, and only 1 cupcake. Can’t do that every season and have 6 home games every season. NDSU & Montana do a minimum of 6 home games every season. So should JMU.
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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
Today during the press conference, MH noted that the 3rd TD and second that was called back was a questionable call by the officials. He felt that Riley's block was clean and the score should've stood.
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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
(09-11-2018 09:03 AM)olddawg Wrote: It's insulting that we'd agree to play at the above mentioned FBS schools (except Appy and UConn). We outdraw them all. Neutral site or home & home.
If you're going to talk the FBS talk, you gotta be able to walk the FBS walk. If you can't show me large attendance #s and the payday that goes with it, I want a home and home. Those conference rules about playing at FCS schools are outdated in this era of "puffed up" FBS programs. Call them on it or move on to other options.
You expect Jeff Bourne to call them out? Only if Mike Houston stands next him and says "hells yea" after.
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RE: Game 2 at Norfolk State
Does anyone have a link to the ESPN3 game? It looks like it never was posted in the replays section of Watch ESPN.
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