(06-06-2018 12:27 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  Out of curiosity, would any of you go back in time and trade ODU and Charlotte for App and Troy?

No. ODU average basketball attendance 7,037 is twice as more than App State and Troy combined (1,212 and 1,490)

Sunbelt has had 1 team ranked for 1 week in its almost 20 year existence.

Look at the NFL Draft, Tech had just as many players drafted last year as the whole Sunbelt Conference

(06-06-2018 01:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 12:27 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  Out of curiosity, would any of you go back in time and trade ODU and Charlotte for App and Troy?

No. ODU average basketball attendance 7,037 is twice as more than App State and Troy combined (1,212 and 1,490)

Sunbelt has had 1 team ranked for 1 week in its almost 20 year existence.

Look at the NFL Draft, Tech had just as many players drafted last year as the whole Sunbelt Conference

(06-06-2018 12:56 PM)wh49er Wrote:  Well here come the Crapp State fans sh*tposting...

I'll take that as a yes from my fallback school.

(06-06-2018 12:57 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 10:48 AM)TTT Wrote:  Again....ECU, Tulsa, and Tulane are much better house-hold names in the world of college athletics than any of the teams we've added, and that's not to knock on any of the newer members. It's just an objective observation. Records mean absolutely nothing over the past 5 years. I would absolutely trade a 10+ win FAU or WKU team for a 5-7 ECU or Tulane. Sorry.

Nope. I wouldn't trade WKU or MT for any of those three.

I've heard ODU fans bring up they though ECU was going to still be in CUSA when they joined and how that would have been another game they could travel to without too much difficulty. Surprised to see someone from ODU saying they'd rather have WKU/MT than ECU.

(06-06-2018 01:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 12:27 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  Out of curiosity, would any of you go back in time and trade ODU and Charlotte for App and Troy?

No. ODU average basketball attendance 7,037 is twice as more than App State and Troy combined (1,212 and 1,490)

Sunbelt has had 1 team ranked for 1 week in its almost 20 year existence.

Look at the NFL Draft, Tech had just as many players drafted last year as the whole Sunbelt Conference

Fake news

(06-05-2018 11:16 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  From an outsiders perspective, the names ECU, Houston, SMU, Memphis, Tulsa, Southern Miss, and UCF made CUSA the conference everybody wanted to be a part of. 10 years ago, I even wanted Troy to be in that mix of names one day. The football, basketball, and baseball was fantastic. That's when CUSA was the cream of the crop.

But CUSA's notoriety has really, really taken a blow from that mass exodus. I think the conference is very fortunate to have retained well-known teams like Marshall and Southern Miss, and even UAB from a basketball standpoint... otherwise it would've been BAD.

I would say that overall, the conference isn't better off from a football standpoint. Despite ECU, Tulsa, and Tulane having their struggles as of late, they've still managed to prove their worth. ECU has been in the Top 25 and has beaten VT (twice), UNC, NC State, and BYU since leaving. Plus they have the best attendance of any G5 team out there. Tulsa has been to two bowl games and went 10-3 a couple years ago. Tulane has... uhh... okay you may have a point regarding Tulane.

For UAB, Marshall, Southern Miss, UTEP and Rice, I doubt they're better off. I doubt UAB wanted to part from Memphis, or Rice from Houston, or Marshall from ECU. Those were solid, entertaining rivalries in football/basketball.

If you're Charlotte, F_U, UTSA, UNT, Old Dominion, MT, WKU or La Tech, then yeah, your perspective is probably grand. UNT came from a conference with no in-state rivals, La Tech was playing in the WAC, UTSA needed a landing spot from the folding of the WAC, ODU was moving from the FCS, Charlotte jumped in after not having a football program at all, etc... Obviously CUSA will seem better off to you.

You couldn't be more wrong on Charlotte. Most Charlotte fans see the current C-USA as the worst league we've been in since the 1980s (football or not). You seem to have forgotten that Charlotte is a Charter Member of this league and had GREAT success during the league's "Golden Era" (1995-2005) which was ALL about basketball.

(06-06-2018 01:49 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 12:57 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 10:48 AM)TTT Wrote:  Again....ECU, Tulsa, and Tulane are much better house-hold names in the world of college athletics than any of the teams we've added, and that's not to knock on any of the newer members. It's just an objective observation. Records mean absolutely nothing over the past 5 years. I would absolutely trade a 10+ win FAU or WKU team for a 5-7 ECU or Tulane. Sorry.

Nope. I wouldn't trade WKU or MT for any of those three.

I've heard ODU fans bring up they though ECU was going to still be in CUSA when they joined and how that would have been another game they could travel to without too much difficulty. Surprised to see someone from ODU saying they'd rather have WKU/MT than ECU.

I'd trade FAU for them. Our admin and many of my Monarch brethren might see it differently but those two are strong in both FB and BB. I personally don't want to see either sport weakened. Household names be damned.

(06-06-2018 01:49 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 01:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 12:27 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  Out of curiosity, would any of you go back in time and trade ODU and Charlotte for App and Troy?

No. ODU average basketball attendance 7,037 is twice as more than App State and Troy combined (1,212 and 1,490)

Sunbelt has had 1 team ranked for 1 week in its almost 20 year existence.

Look at the NFL Draft, Tech had just as many players drafted last year as the whole Sunbelt Conference

Fake news

He might be using 2016 numbers but point still stands as far as attendance.

2017 averages according to NCAA:

App St - 1,346
Troy - 1,284
Total - 2,630
Times Two - 5,260

ODU - 6,572

I didn't fact check the draft claim.

(06-06-2018 01:49 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 12:57 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 10:48 AM)TTT Wrote:  Again....ECU, Tulsa, and Tulane are much better house-hold names in the world of college athletics than any of the teams we've added, and that's not to knock on any of the newer members. It's just an objective observation. Records mean absolutely nothing over the past 5 years. I would absolutely trade a 10+ win FAU or WKU team for a 5-7 ECU or Tulane. Sorry.

Nope. I wouldn't trade WKU or MT for any of those three.

I've heard ODU fans bring up they though ECU was going to still be in CUSA when they joined and how that would have been another game they could travel to without too much difficulty. Surprised to see someone from ODU saying they'd rather have WKU/MT than ECU.

When we first joined the conference, we were put in travel shock. We had been used to having 3 other in state programs previously. Nowadays, travel distance doesn't seem to matter as much. I would absolutely rather have WKU and MT over ECU. Plus, one of our best internet rivalries is 2000 miles away.

(06-06-2018 01:49 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 01:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 12:27 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  Out of curiosity, would any of you go back in time and trade ODU and Charlotte for App and Troy?

No. ODU average basketball attendance 7,037 is twice as more than App State and Troy combined (1,212 and 1,490)

Sunbelt has had 1 team ranked for 1 week in its almost 20 year existence.

Look at the NFL Draft, Tech had just as many players drafted last year as the whole Sunbelt Conference

Fake news

2016 NFL Draft
Louisiana Tech - 3 draft picks including 1st rounder
Sunbelt Conference - 3 draft picks

2017 NFL Draft
Louisiana Tech - 3 draft picks
Sunbelt Conference - 5 draft picks

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/tracker#dt...ut:sunbelt

(06-06-2018 03:00 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 01:49 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 12:57 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 10:48 AM)TTT Wrote:  Again....ECU, Tulsa, and Tulane are much better house-hold names in the world of college athletics than any of the teams we've added, and that's not to knock on any of the newer members. It's just an objective observation. Records mean absolutely nothing over the past 5 years. I would absolutely trade a 10+ win FAU or WKU team for a 5-7 ECU or Tulane. Sorry.

Nope. I wouldn't trade WKU or MT for any of those three.

I've heard ODU fans bring up they though ECU was going to still be in CUSA when they joined and how that would have been another game they could travel to without too much difficulty. Surprised to see someone from ODU saying they'd rather have WKU/MT than ECU.

When we first joined the conference, we were put in travel shock. We had been used to having 3 other in state programs previously. Nowadays, travel distance doesn't seem to matter as much. I would absolutely rather have WKU and MT over ECU. Plus, one of our best internet rivalries is 2000 miles away.

#basketballmatters

(06-06-2018 03:00 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 01:49 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 01:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 12:27 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  Out of curiosity, would any of you go back in time and trade ODU and Charlotte for App and Troy?

No. ODU average basketball attendance 7,037 is twice as more than App State and Troy combined (1,212 and 1,490)

Sunbelt has had 1 team ranked for 1 week in its almost 20 year existence.

Look at the NFL Draft, Tech had just as many players drafted last year as the whole Sunbelt Conference

Fake news

2016 NFL Draft
Louisiana Tech - 3 draft picks including 1st rounder
Sunbelt Conference - 3 draft picks

2017 NFL Draft
Louisiana Tech - 3 draft picks
Sunbelt Conference - 5 draft picks

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/tracker#dt...ut:sunbelt

2016 Draft (Truth news)

2017 Draft (Fake news)

2018 Draft (Fake news)

Not really trying to compare SB to CUSA or the SB to Tech. Just ODU/UNCC to App/Troy.

They definitely have a leg up in basketball.

Football goes to App/Troy
Basketball goes to ODU/UNCC
Baseball may be a push right now

(06-06-2018 02:40 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 01:49 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 01:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 12:27 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  Out of curiosity, would any of you go back in time and trade ODU and Charlotte for App and Troy?

No. ODU average basketball attendance 7,037 is twice as more than App State and Troy combined (1,212 and 1,490)

Sunbelt has had 1 team ranked for 1 week in its almost 20 year existence.

Look at the NFL Draft, Tech had just as many players drafted last year as the whole Sunbelt Conference

Fake news

He might be using 2016 numbers but point still stands as far as attendance.

2017 averages according to NCAA:

App St - 1,346
Troy - 1,284
Total - 2,630
Times Two - 5,260

ODU - 6,572

I didn't fact check the draft claim.

Sounds about right. ODU and UNCC have a leg up in basketball. Not football. Push for baseball right now.

(06-06-2018 02:15 PM)PSCNiner Wrote:  You seem to have forgotten that Charlotte is a Charter Member of this league and had GREAT success during the league's "Golden Era" (1995-2005) which was ALL about basketball.

"In a span of 11 seasons beginning in 1994-95 and ending in 2004-05, Charlotte -- which was known as "UNC Charlotte" until 2000 -- appeared in the NCAA Tournament eight times. The program was home to a pair of Conference USA Players of the Year in DeMarco Johnson and Eddie Basden, and a national Freshman of the Year in Rodney White. The 49ers went toe-to-toe with programs like Cincinnati, Louisville and Marquette, and won three Conference USA championships.

In 2010, Bobby Lutz, the man at the heart of the most successful stretch in UNCC hoops history and one of the hottest coaching names in the sport at the time the 49ers made the move to the A-10, was fired. Lutz still owns winning records over John Calipari (3-2) and Tom Crean (6-4), and was 3-4 against Rick Pitino."

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketb...tlantic-10

Yeah, I remember that playing Charlotte back in the old Cusa was a big deal. Lulz was a coach that everyone hated. I can't remember what it was, but the old nickname that everyone else called Charlotte was 6BC something or other. Stood for 6th best in Carolina--which Charlotte wasn't, it was better--but just rivalry smack.

This thread was started for C-USA fans to comment on the football success of MT, WKU, and FAU versus that of the AAC teams they replaced.

It was not started to debate the relative strength of C-USA or AAC, and it was not started for trolls from other conferences. If you want a fictitious thread about trading programs, go start one on the realignment board.

As for the actual topic, collectively WKU, MT, and FAU football has been more successful then Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU, since realignment. That is a fact, and because of that C-USA is better off today.

(06-06-2018 04:31 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  This thread was started for C-USA fans to comment on the football success of MT, WKU, and FAU versus that of the AAC teams they replaced.

It was not started to debate the relative strength of C-USA or AAC, and it was not started for trolls from other conferences. If you want a fictitious thread about trading programs, go start one on the realignment board.

As for the actual topic, collectively WKU, MT, and FAU football has been more successful then Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU, since realignment. That is a fact, and because of that C-USA is better off today.

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It's off season anyways SS Joe, you just stirred the pot. Nothing wrong with a little message board bantering.
A lot of message board are on sleep mode this time of year. Gives me something to read.

(06-06-2018 01:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 12:27 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  Out of curiosity, would any of you go back in time and trade ODU and Charlotte for App and Troy?

No. ODU average basketball attendance 7,037 is twice as more than App State and Troy combined (1,212 and 1,490)

Sunbelt has had 1 team ranked for 1 week in its almost 20 year existence.

Look at the NFL Draft, Tech had just as many players drafted last year as the whole Sunbelt Conference

Damn that La Tech education. App State's avg. attendance is 1,302. Troy's avg. attendance is 2,087.

Since you're comparing previous season attendances, what was ODU's attendance in the other two revenue sports compared to Troy? Or how about La Tech's? This attendance smack can go in a lot of different directions. You're comparing a school that had a terrific basketball season with two schools that had disappointing seasons.

I also hope your NFL Draft statement isn't a reflection of a La Tech education either. Tech had 1 player drafted to 4 for the Sun Belt in 2018. Or did you mean the 2017 draft, where La Tech had 3 players drafted to 5 for the Sun Belt? Sooo... you either have poor research skills, can't do math, or you're just chock full of s***.

(06-06-2018 06:26 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 01:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 12:27 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  Out of curiosity, would any of you go back in time and trade ODU and Charlotte for App and Troy?

No. ODU average basketball attendance 7,037 is twice as more than App State and Troy combined (1,212 and 1,490)

Sunbelt has had 1 team ranked for 1 week in its almost 20 year existence.

Look at the NFL Draft, Tech had just as many players drafted last year as the whole Sunbelt Conference

Since you're comparing previous season attendances, what was ODU's attendance in the other two revenue sports compared to Troy? Or how about La Tech's? This attendance smack can go in a lot of different directions. You're comparing a school that had a terrific basketball season with two schools that had disappointing seasons.

I also hope your NFL Draft statement isn't a reflection of a La Tech education. Tech had 1 player drafted to 4 for the Sun Belt in 2018. Or did you mean the 2017 draft, where La Tech had 3 players drafted to 5 for the Sun Belt? Sooo... you either have poor research skills, can't do math, or you're just chock full of s***.

looks like a reading comprehension issue for your fabulous troy education...he clearly stated what he meant in post 70...reading is fun...hooked on phonics works for many...even those from troy

(06-06-2018 06:35 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 06:26 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 01:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(06-06-2018 12:27 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  Out of curiosity, would any of you go back in time and trade ODU and Charlotte for App and Troy?

No. ODU average basketball attendance 7,037 is twice as more than App State and Troy combined (1,212 and 1,490)

Sunbelt has had 1 team ranked for 1 week in its almost 20 year existence.

Look at the NFL Draft, Tech had just as many players drafted last year as the whole Sunbelt Conference

Since you're comparing previous season attendances, what was ODU's attendance in the other two revenue sports compared to Troy? Or how about La Tech's? This attendance smack can go in a lot of different directions. You're comparing a school that had a terrific basketball season with two schools that had disappointing seasons.

I also hope your NFL Draft statement isn't a reflection of a La Tech education. Tech had 1 player drafted to 4 for the Sun Belt in 2018. Or did you mean the 2017 draft, where La Tech had 3 players drafted to 5 for the Sun Belt? Sooo... you either have poor research skills, can't do math, or you're just chock full of s***.

looks like a reading comprehension issue for your fabulous troy education...he clearly stated what he meant in post 70...reading is fun...hooked on phonics works for many...even those from troy

Not a reading comprehension issue greeny. Just didn't see the post.

It's a little funny that you have to go back to the 2016 NFL Draft... so that you can compare draft picks to a conference with less teams, so obviously less bodies to be drafted. That's grasping hard.

clt says appy fans and that hotlanta guy sure seem to post here a lot. Do they have a chat page for their conference?